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* Re: Why Hitler struck against the Soviet UnionDanart
`- Re: Why Hitler struck against the Soviet UnionThe Horny Goat

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Subject: Re: Why Hitler struck against the Soviet Union
From: Danart
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 04:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: Why Hitler struck against the Soviet Union
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> Susan Cohen wrote:
> Important evidence has come to light in recent decades that
shatters
> the official, endlessly repeated view that Hitler, bent on world
> conquest, launched a treacherous surprise attack against a peaceful
> Soviet Union. Long-suppressed documents and other detailed evidence
> shows that by June 1941 Soviet dictator Stalin had built the
world’s
> largest military machine, and had deployed an enormous strike force
on
> the western Soviet frontier, in readiness for a massive attack
against
> Germany that would roll on to overwhelm central and western Europe.
> Hitler’s ‘Barbarossa” attack, say a growing number of historians in
> Russia, Germany and other countries, was actually a preventive war
to
> forestall an imminent Soviet strike.
>
>
>
http://www.ihr.org/sites/default/files/audio/podcasts/The_Mark_Weber_Report-20120104.mp3
>
>
> If there is one thing experience has taught me: You can't
> argue with facts.

The USSR was a #@#@!! after the fall of
the Romanov. They literally had a civil-war where they divided the
nation into a Chinese checkers like state.

Lenin ( who is a J-u-e ) was at fault. I do not blame Hitler for not
wanting to take over Russia in the name of Christianity. They are
practically controlled by god-hating nut-jobs who brainwashed people
into the idea every man is a king and every woman is a queen, but they
have been reduced to being seen as prostitutes and warmongers. Under
Romanov the Empire was beautiful even more beautiful then any other
nation could ever be. USSR splitting was a mistake all done by the
imaginary war against Christians.

Bottom-line the US military came to aide Britain. Despite already won
and Germany itself had a cripple military the Brits bombarded Germany
multiple times at the civilians who was abused afterwards by the
various military. Imagine having little or nothing to do with WWII and
then being subjugated for that fact.

"Jojo Rabbit (2019)" is the begging of the end and
"Hellstorm - Exposing Genocide of National Socialist Germany
Documentary (2015)" is after the end. Anything else is war
stories. That sums up WWII for Germany.

Anyways does not matter. The plan Hitler had to deport all the Jews
came to fruition. Now they could run around circles killing each other
and everybody else around them and not be in Europe. Many people in
the war did not care for it.

This is a response to the post seen at:
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=642443536#642443536

Subject: Re: Why Hitler struck against the Soviet Union
From: The Horny Goat
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On Thu, 30 May 2024 04:14:21 +0000,
danmin@danminart-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Danart) wrote:

>Anyways does not matter. The plan Hitler had to deport all the Jews
>came to fruition. Now they could run around circles killing each other
>and everybody else around them and not be in Europe. Many people in
>the war did not care for it.

I simply do not see how you can read Mein Kampf and not come to the
conclusion that 22 June 1941 was the happiest day of Hitler's life.

His whole purpose in life from roughly 1922 forward was to destroy the
Soviet Union and replant it with German colonists.

A World War II scenario that does NOT involve an eventual German
attack on the Soviet Union either involves a different Hitler or an
extremely early defeat of Nazi Germany (for instance if Guderian's
armored force breaks out at Sedan and is then cut off and forced to
surrender with the war then breaking down basically into "a World War
I style war of attrition but with tanks and aircraft" meaning that
Hitler is never able to assemble a force strong enough to credibly
attack the Soviet Union)

From Hitler's point of view the whole purpose of 1939-40 was to
conquer enough territory in the West so that he could secure his
western flank without getting into the sort of two front war that
drained Germany as WW1 did while enabling him to get on with what he
REALLY wanted which was to get on with his invasion of Russia as
quickly as possible.

The campaigns in North Africa and Yugoslavia/Greece were all about
supporting Italy who had created two new fronts that Hitler would have
preferred not be opened so he could put his maximum strength against
the ONLY front he really cared about.

The Nazi-Soviet pact was seen strictly as a temporary measure to keep
the eastern front quiet while he got on with his securing of the
western flank - but even in 1939 the war Hitler REALLY cared about was
Russia.

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