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Subject: (from Faust) -- Und wenn es uns gluckt, Und wenn es sich schickt, So sind es
From: HenHanna
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From: HenHanna@dev.null (HenHanna)
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Subject: (from Faust) -- Und wenn es uns gluckt, Und wenn es sich schickt, So
sind es
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What's the meaning? (from Faust) ? --------->

Und wenn es uns gluckt,
Und wenn es sich schickt,
So sind es Gedanken.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/schicken

(spoken by the witches' familiars (often presented as monkeys or apes)
who are in the witch's kitchen where potions are brewed)

So these are like (semi- nonsensical) incantations?

And if we get lucky,
And if everything fits,
So (in this way) our thoughts (luckily) fit

Maybe the idea is that... all the ingredients and the
ideas (thoughts) all fit into the magic potion?

These words are a lot like [Bubble, bubble, ...] in Macbeth?

_______________________ Breakdown of "So sind es Gedanken"

So - This word can have multiple meanings depending on the context, but
in this sentence, it likely means "thus" or "in this way."

sind - This is the present tense form of the verb "sein," which means
"to be." Here, "sind" translates to "are."

es - This pronoun means "it."

Gedanken - This is the plural form of the noun "Gedanke," which means
"thought."

Therefore, the entire sentence translates to "So these are thoughts."

Subject: Re: (from Faust) -- Und wenn es uns gluckt, Und wenn es sich schickt, So sind es
From: bertietaylor
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Subject: Re: (from Faust) -- Und wenn es uns gluckt, Und wenn es sich schickt, So
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On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 8:26:12 +0000, HenHanna wrote:

> What's the meaning? (from Faust) ? --------->
>
>
> Und wenn es uns gluckt,
> Und wenn es sich schickt,
> So sind es Gedanken.
>
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/schicken
>
>
> (spoken by the witches' familiars (often presented as monkeys or apes)
> who are in the witch's kitchen where potions are brewed)
>
> So these are like (semi- nonsensical) incantations?

Not at all. They are very scientific as investigating exploratory stages
into the unknown.
>
> And if we get lucky,
> And if everything fits,
> So (in this way) our thoughts (luckily) fit

Brilliant.
They depend upon luck, patience, tenacity, effort, measures, methods to
come up with something useful.
Alchemy resulted from all such work and led to chemistry with great
insights.
>
>
> Maybe the idea is that... all the ingredients and the
> ideas (thoughts) all fit into the magic potion?
>
No. They want to make a magic potion with ingredients whose natures they
partly understand. If lucky they know how to repeat. So, very
scientific.

These days the methods of science has changed to something dogmatic and
focussed and institutional.
> These words are a lot like [Bubble, bubble, ...] in Macbeth?
>
>
>
> _______________________ Breakdown of "So sind es Gedanken"
>
>
> So - This word can have multiple meanings depending on the context, but
> in this sentence, it likely means "thus" or "in this way."
>
> sind - This is the present tense form of the verb "sein," which means
> "to be." Here, "sind" translates to "are."
>
> es - This pronoun means "it."
>
> Gedanken - This is the plural form of the noun "Gedanke," which means
> "thought."
>
> Therefore, the entire sentence translates to "So these are thoughts."

Subject	Author
(from Faust) -- Und wenn es uns gluckt, Und wenn es sich schickt, So sind es	HenHanna
Re: (from Faust) -- Und wenn es uns gluckt, Und wenn es sich schickt, So sind	bertietaylor