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Subject: Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
From: Attila
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 19:43:45 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
message-id <v4bqki$1j6kk$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 12/06/2024 7:20 pm, Attila wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 07:37:42 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>> message-id <v4ag37$187hc$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/06/2024 8:13 pm, Attila wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 09:39:54 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>>> message-id <v482sa$l4q3$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/06/2024 6:08 pm, Attila wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:20:48 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>>>>>> message-id <v459s0$3r090$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/06/2024 7:24 am, Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:06:38 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>> <6664ABBE.2601@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of any god.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not looked everywhere. Have you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not. What are the conditions for obtaining one? I
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look! A rock! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look! A bug! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take your pick. For some that is all the evidence that is
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think you are not understanding...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So you say. I require a bit more.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> God is everywhere, but
>>>>>>>>>>> You cannot look everywhere at once.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't say "Look over there."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you look over there you might see a rock..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I rest my case.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote: "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>
>>>>> It is if you bother to look at what constitutes a ham sandwich, where
>>>>> that ham sandwich came from, and the impossibility of everything
>>>>> creating itself.
>>>>
>>>> There are too many possible alternatives to attribute
>>>> anything to an intelligent source.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I said, for some that is all that is necessary. They
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everything is evidence there is a God.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is what I mean. That attitude allows no further
>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, everything is the evidence for God.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes, we have differing experience.
>>>>
>>>> Thus making the experience of someone else useless.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, where is any supporting evidence (actual facts) for
>>>>>> that conclusion? Or is it only your unsupported belief?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this the point where I say, "Oh look! There is an Attila! That proves
>>>>> there is no God!"
>>>>
>>>> You cannot prove a negative.
>>>
>>> Who says?
>>
>> Anyone. All possible sources must be investigated to
>> support a negative and no alternative explanations can
>> exist.
>
>That sounds to me like you are saying nothing.

I am sure it does.

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