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Subject: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: Alain Fournier
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Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 18:31 UTC

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From: alain245@videotron.ca (Alain Fournier)
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Subject: Blue Origin - New Glenn
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Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is great
that a second company in the satellite launch market will be reusing
stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they don't
want to be surpassed.

SpasceNews says:
"The company has not disclosed a launch date for the inaugural flight,
called NG-1. However, there is one airspace advisory for a New Glenn
launch Jan. 6 between 1 a.m. and 4:45 a.m. Eastern, with a backup
opportunity at the same time the next day."

https://spacenews.com/blue-origin-test-fires-new-glenn-first-stage-ahead-of-inaugural-launch

Alain Fournier

Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: Snidely
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 21:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
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Alain Fournier formulated the question :
> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like SpaceX's
> Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is great that a second
> company in the satellite launch market will be reusing stages. It will force
> SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they don't want to be surpassed.
>
> SpasceNews says:
> "The company has not disclosed a launch date for the inaugural flight, called
> NG-1. However, there is one airspace advisory for a New Glenn launch Jan. 6
> between 1 a.m. and 4:45 a.m. Eastern, with a backup opportunity at the same
> time the next day."
>
> https://spacenews.com/blue-origin-test-fires-new-glenn-first-stage-ahead-of-inaugural-launch
>
>
> Alain Fournier

Congrats Blue Origin.

Space Coast Live captured it live (Thanks Max and Jerry), but that's
scrolled out of the 12 hour ewwtewb window by now.

The replays are at:
<URL:https://youtu.be/Sw5oUYqe0Ng?t=5911>

/dps

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application, by a large number of people, than the world can readily
supply."

Sam Plusnet

Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: The Running Man
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Organization: EasyNews
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 22:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
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On 28/12/2024 19:31 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
> SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is great
> that a second company in the satellite launch market will be reusing
> stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they don't
> want to be surpassed.

Are they attempting to land the first stage on the first try?!

Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: Alain Fournier
Newsgroups: sci.space.policy
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 23:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
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On 2024-12-28 5:08 p.m., The Running Man wrote:
> On 28/12/2024 19:31 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
>> SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is great
>> that a second company in the satellite launch market will be reusing
>> stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they don't
>> want to be surpassed.
>
> Are they attempting to land the first stage on the first try?!

I don't really know, but my understanding is that yes they will attempt
to land the first stage on a barge at the first flight. They are not
necessarily expecting a success, but I think they will try.

Alain Fournier

Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: Snidely
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 01:54 UTC
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Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 17:54:16 -0800
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The Running Man wrote on 12/28/2024 :
> On 28/12/2024 19:31 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
>> SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is great
>> that a second company in the satellite launch market will be reusing
>> stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they don't
>> want to be surpassed.
>
> Are they attempting to land the first stage on the first try?!

Yep.

They do have some experience landing, but with a single hydrolox motor,
and a different trajectory. We'll see soon how much of a difference
that makes.

/dps

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Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: The Running Man
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 05:34 UTC
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On 29/12/2024 02:54 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Running Man wrote on 12/28/2024 :
>> On 28/12/2024 19:31 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
>>> SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is great
>>> that a second company in the satellite launch market will be reusing
>>> stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they don't
>>> want to be surpassed.
>>
>> Are they attempting to land the first stage on the first try?!
>
> Yep.
>
> They do have some experience landing, but with a single hydrolox motor,
> and a different trajectory. We'll see soon how much of a difference
> that makes.
>

Risky. The could lose the barge.

Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: Alain Fournier
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 11:34 UTC
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On 2024-12-28 8:54 p.m., Snidely wrote:
> The Running Man wrote on 12/28/2024 :
>> On 28/12/2024 19:31 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
>>> SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is
>>> great that a second company in the satellite launch market will be
>>> reusing stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if
>>> they don't want to be surpassed.
>>
>> Are they attempting to land the first stage on the first try?!
>
> Yep.
>
> They do have some experience landing, but with a single hydrolox motor,
> and a different trajectory. We'll see soon how much of a difference
> that makes.

I don't think the difference in trajectory is important here. It is what
happens in the last few hundred meters that matters. The trajectories
are similar in the last few hundred meters. Of course, if they can't
properly control their booster when it is 50 km up, they won't succeed
in landing. But in such a case, I would assume that they would abort
trying to land on the barge.

The difference in motors is quite relevant. But also the difference in
air-frame.

When SpaceX was doing their first attempts at landing on a barge, they
had a few, uh, how would I call that, exciting landings. The barge was
sometimes damaged in the ensuing explosions, but the barge did survive.
I am kind of expecting the same to happen with Blue Origin. They will
probably have a few *near success* barge landings before having a
success. They probably are kind of expecting that. I think their barge
was built accordingly.

Alain Fournier

Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: Alain Fournier
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Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
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On 2024-12-29 12:34 a.m., The Running Man wrote:
> On 29/12/2024 02:54 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The Running Man wrote on 12/28/2024 :
>>> On 28/12/2024 19:31 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>>> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
>>>> SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is great
>>>> that a second company in the satellite launch market will be reusing
>>>> stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they don't
>>>> want to be surpassed.
>>>
>>> Are they attempting to land the first stage on the first try?!
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>> They do have some experience landing, but with a single hydrolox motor,
>> and a different trajectory. We'll see soon how much of a difference
>> that makes.
>>
>
> Risky. The could lose the barge.

The first stage landing ship has left Port Canaveral for the Atlantic
Ocean. I still haven't seen any official launch date announced, but
Friday seems the likely launch date. Of course, the first launch of a
new type of rocket is quite frequently delayed.

Alain Fournier

Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: Snidely
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Alain Fournier blurted out:
> On 2024-12-29 12:34 a.m., The Running Man wrote:
>> On 29/12/2024 02:54 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The Running Man wrote on 12/28/2024 :
>>>> On 28/12/2024 19:31 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
>>>>> SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is great
>>>>> that a second company in the satellite launch market will be reusing
>>>>> stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they don't
>>>>> want to be surpassed.
>>>>
>>>> Are they attempting to land the first stage on the first try?!
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>>
>>> They do have some experience landing, but with a single hydrolox motor,
>>> and a different trajectory. We'll see soon how much of a difference
>>> that makes.
>>>
>>
>> Risky. The could lose the barge.
>
> The first stage landing ship has left Port Canaveral for the Atlantic Ocean.
> I still haven't seen any official launch date announced, but Friday seems the
> likely launch date. Of course, the first launch of a new type of rocket is
> quite frequently delayed.
>
>
> Alain Fournier

Yes, the 10th seems to be the consensus of observers pending official
announcements.

The status of Starship flight 7 is similarly expected to be around the
10th pending official announcements.

/dps

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went apopleptic when he learned a lousy rodent had peed away all his
precious heavy water.
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Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: Snidely
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Alain Fournier pounded on thar keyboard to tell us
> On 2024-12-28 5:08 p.m., The Running Man wrote:
>> On 28/12/2024 19:31 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
>>> SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is great
>>> that a second company in the satellite launch market will be reusing
>>> stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they don't
>>> want to be surpassed.
>>
>> Are they attempting to land the first stage on the first try?!
>
> I don't really know, but my understanding is that yes they will attempt to
> land the first stage on a barge

"Landing Platform Vessel" (LPV-1 "Jacklyn")

> at the first flight. They are not necessarily
> expecting a success, but I think they will try.
>
>
> Alain Fournier

NSF coverage goes live at 6pm PST on January 9; launch window is Jan 10
1 am to 4 am EST (Jan 9 10 pm PST to 1 am).

/dps

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"He does very well in a suck-up, kick-down culture."
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Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
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Snidely suggested that ...
> Alain Fournier blurted out:
>> On 2024-12-29 12:34 a.m., The Running Man wrote:
>>> On 29/12/2024 02:54 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The Running Man wrote on 12/28/2024 :
>>>>> On 28/12/2024 19:31 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
>>>>>> SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is
>>>>>> great
>>>>>> that a second company in the satellite launch market will be reusing
>>>>>> stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they don't
>>>>>> want to be surpassed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are they attempting to land the first stage on the first try?!
>>>>
>>>> Yep.
>>>>
>>>> They do have some experience landing, but with a single hydrolox motor,
>>>> and a different trajectory. We'll see soon how much of a difference
>>>> that makes.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Risky. The could lose the barge.
>>
>> The first stage landing ship has left Port Canaveral for the Atlantic
>> Ocean. I still haven't seen any official launch date announced, but Friday
>> seems the likely launch date. Of course, the first launch of a new type of
>> rocket is quite frequently delayed.
>>
>>
>> Alain Fournier
>
> Yes, the 10th seems to be the consensus of observers pending official
> announcements.

9th or 10th depending on timezone of observer

> The status of Starship flight 7 is similarly expected to be around the 10th
> pending official announcements.

Monday the 13th seems to be SpaceX's target; that appears in an expost
from SpaceX today.

/dps

--
Trust, but verify.

Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: Snidely
Newsgroups: sci.space.policy
Organization: Dis One
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 16:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
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Snidely suggested that ...
> Snidely suggested that ...
>> Alain Fournier blurted out:
>>> On 2024-12-29 12:34 a.m., The Running Man wrote:
>>>> On 29/12/2024 02:54 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> The Running Man wrote on 12/28/2024 :
>>>>>> On 28/12/2024 19:31 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
>>>>>>> SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is
>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>> that a second company in the satellite launch market will be reusing
>>>>>>> stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they don't
>>>>>>> want to be surpassed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are they attempting to land the first stage on the first try?!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>
>>>>> They do have some experience landing, but with a single hydrolox motor,
>>>>> and a different trajectory. We'll see soon how much of a difference
>>>>> that makes.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Risky. The could lose the barge.
>>>
>>> The first stage landing ship has left Port Canaveral for the Atlantic
>>> Ocean. I still haven't seen any official launch date announced, but Friday
>>> seems the likely launch date. Of course, the first launch of a new type of
>>> rocket is quite frequently delayed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Alain Fournier
>>
>> Yes, the 10th seems to be the consensus of observers pending official
>> announcements.
>
> 9th or 10th depending on timezone of observer

And now seems to be Jan 12 1 am EST.

>> The status of Starship flight 7 is similarly expected to be around the 10th
>> pending official announcements.
>
> Monday the 13th seems to be SpaceX's target; that appears in an expost from
> SpaceX today.
>

/dps

--
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"He does very well in a suck-up, kick-down culture."
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Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: Snidely
Newsgroups: sci.space.policy
Organization: Dis One
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 19:21 UTC
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With a quizzical look, Snidely observed:
> Alain Fournier pounded on thar keyboard to tell us
>> On 2024-12-28 5:08 p.m., The Running Man wrote:
>>> On 28/12/2024 19:31 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>>> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
>>>> SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is great
>>>> that a second company in the satellite launch market will be reusing
>>>> stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they don't
>>>> want to be surpassed.
>>>
>>> Are they attempting to land the first stage on the first try?!
>>
>> I don't really know, but my understanding is that yes they will attempt to
>> land the first stage on a barge
>
> "Landing Platform Vessel" (LPV-1 "Jacklyn")
>
>> at the first flight. They are not necessarily expecting a success, but I
>> think they will try.
>>
>>
>> Alain Fournier
>
> NSF coverage goes live at 6pm PST on January 9; launch window is Jan 10 1 am
> to 4 am EST (Jan 9 10 pm PST to 1 am).
>
> /dps

Given reduced waves, under 11 hours from now (targeting Jan 11 1am
EST).

-d

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protection, blacksmithing, and domesticated animals ....
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Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: Snidely
Newsgroups: sci.space.policy
Organization: Dis One
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Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
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on 1/9/2025, Snidely supposed :
> Snidely suggested that ...
>> Snidely suggested that ...
>>> Alain Fournier blurted out:
>>>> On 2024-12-29 12:34 a.m., The Running Man wrote:
>>>>> On 29/12/2024 02:54 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The Running Man wrote on 12/28/2024 :
>>>>>>> On 28/12/2024 19:31 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
>>>>>>>> SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is
>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>> that a second company in the satellite launch market will be reusing
>>>>>>>> stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> want to be surpassed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are they attempting to land the first stage on the first try?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They do have some experience landing, but with a single hydrolox motor,
>>>>>> and a different trajectory. We'll see soon how much of a difference
>>>>>> that makes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Risky. The could lose the barge.
>>>>
>>>> The first stage landing ship has left Port Canaveral for the Atlantic
>>>> Ocean. I still haven't seen any official launch date announced, but
>>>> Friday seems the likely launch date. Of course, the first launch of a new
>>>> type of rocket is quite frequently delayed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alain Fournier
>>>
>>> Yes, the 10th seems to be the consensus of observers pending official
>>> announcements.
>>
>> 9th or 10th depending on timezone of observer
>
> And now seems to be Jan 12 1 am EST.

Well, they tried. Eric Berger has heard that a vent line icing up
prevented lift off, and we await a new schedule.

>>> The status of Starship flight 7 is similarly expected to be around the
>>> 10th pending official announcements.
>>
>> Monday the 13th seems to be SpaceX's target; that appears in an expost from
>> SpaceX today.
>>

Currently Jan 15 weather pending.

/dps

--
Trust, but verify.

Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: The Running Man
Newsgroups: sci.space.policy
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 22:08 UTC
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On 13/01/2025 21:46 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
> on 1/9/2025, Snidely supposed :
>> Snidely suggested that ...
>>> Snidely suggested that ...
>>>> Alain Fournier blurted out:
>>>>> On 2024-12-29 12:34 a.m., The Running Man wrote:
>>>>>> On 29/12/2024 02:54 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> The Running Man wrote on 12/28/2024 :
>>>>>>>> On 28/12/2024 19:31 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
>>>>>>>>> SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is
>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>> that a second company in the satellite launch market will be reusing
>>>>>>>>> stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> want to be surpassed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are they attempting to land the first stage on the first try?!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They do have some experience landing, but with a single hydrolox motor,
>>>>>>> and a different trajectory. We'll see soon how much of a difference
>>>>>>> that makes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Risky. The could lose the barge.
>>>>>
>>>>> The first stage landing ship has left Port Canaveral for the Atlantic
>>>>> Ocean. I still haven't seen any official launch date announced, but
>>>>> Friday seems the likely launch date. Of course, the first launch of a new
>>>>> type of rocket is quite frequently delayed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alain Fournier
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the 10th seems to be the consensus of observers pending official
>>>> announcements.
>>>
>>> 9th or 10th depending on timezone of observer
>>
>> And now seems to be Jan 12 1 am EST.
>
> Well, they tried. Eric Berger has heard that a vent line icing up
> prevented lift off, and we await a new schedule.
>
Was it a called morning in Florida? Or due to the cryogenic
liquids?

Subject: Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn
From: Snidely
Newsgroups: sci.space.policy
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 21:42 UTC
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The Running Man presented the following explanation :
> On 13/01/2025 21:46 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
>> on 1/9/2025, Snidely supposed :
>>> Snidely suggested that ...
>>>> Snidely suggested that ...
>>>>> Alain Fournier blurted out:
>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 12:34 a.m., The Running Man wrote:
>>>>>>> On 29/12/2024 02:54 Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The Running Man wrote on 12/28/2024 :
>>>>>>>>> On 28/12/2024 19:31 Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Blue Origin will probably launch New Glenn in early January. Like
>>>>>>>>>> SpaceX's Falcon rockets the first stage is reusable. I think it is
>>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>>> that a second company in the satellite launch market will be reusing
>>>>>>>>>> stages. It will force SpaceX to keep up doing great work if they
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> want to be surpassed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are they attempting to land the first stage on the first try?!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They do have some experience landing, but with a single hydrolox
>>>>>>>> motor, and a different trajectory. We'll see soon how much of a
>>>>>>>> difference that makes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Risky. The could lose the barge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The first stage landing ship has left Port Canaveral for the Atlantic
>>>>>> Ocean. I still haven't seen any official launch date announced, but
>>>>>> Friday seems the likely launch date. Of course, the first launch of a
>>>>>> new type of rocket is quite frequently delayed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alain Fournier
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, the 10th seems to be the consensus of observers pending official
>>>>> announcements.
>>>>
>>>> 9th or 10th depending on timezone of observer
>>>
>>> And now seems to be Jan 12 1 am EST.
>>
>> Well, they tried. Eric Berger has heard that a vent line icing up
>> prevented lift off, and we await a new schedule.
>>
>
> Was it a called morning in Florida? Or due to the cryogenic
> liquids?

8C, according to one weather reading during the span.

/dps

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> instead, and see how that works out.
-- Katy Jennison

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sci / sci.space.policy / Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn

Subject	Author
Blue Origin - New Glenn	Alain Fournier
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	Snidely
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	The Running Man
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	Alain Fournier
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	Snidely
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	Snidely
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	Snidely
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	The Running Man
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	Alain Fournier
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	Snidely
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	Snidely
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	Snidely
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	Snidely
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	The Running Man
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	Snidely
Re: Blue Origin - New Glenn	Alain Fournier