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Subject: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
From: Snidely
Newsgroups: sci.space.policy
Organization: Dis One
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 02:35 UTC
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From: snidely.too@gmail.com (Snidely)
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Subject: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
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NSF reorts on a letter from NASA to the FAA for allowing a NASA
Gulfstream an exception while it is calibrating imaging equipment to
prepare for a reentry event over the Indian Ocean, NET Jan 11 2025.

/dps

--
Hurray or Huzzah?

Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
From: Snidely
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Organization: Dis One
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 02:50 UTC
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From: snidely.too@gmail.com (Snidely)
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Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 18:50:55 -0800
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Snidely submitted this gripping article, maybe on Tuesday:
> NSF reorts on a letter from NASA to the FAA for allowing a NASA Gulfstream an
> exception while it is calibrating imaging equipment to prepare for a reentry
> event over the Indian Ocean, NET Jan 11 2025.
>
> /dps

See
<URL:https://youtu.be/4YswFndtQsw?si=AlFctnFla877nw1P&t=685>

Also
<https://youtu.be/watch?v=IC9TkhKtnuE>

/dps

--
Killing a mouse was hardly a Nobel Prize-worthy exercise, and Lawrence
went apopleptic when he learned a lousy rodent had peed away all his
precious heavy water.
_The Disappearing Spoon_, Sam Kean

Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
From: Snidely
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 05:49 UTC
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From: snidely.too@gmail.com (Snidely)
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Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:49:25 -0800
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Watch this space, where Snidely advised that...
> NSF reorts on a letter from NASA to the FAA for allowing a NASA Gulfstream an
> exception while it is calibrating imaging equipment to prepare for a reentry
> event over the Indian Ocean, NET Jan 11 2025.

And we have had booster spin prime and static fire complete, as of Dec
07 and Dec 09 respectively.

-d

--
"I'm glad unicorns don't ever need upgrades."
"We are as up as it is possible to get graded!"
_Phoebe and Her Unicorn_, 2016.05.15

Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
From: Alain Fournier
Newsgroups: sci.space.policy
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 13:51 UTC
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From: alain245@videotron.ca (Alain Fournier)
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Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
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On 2024-12-13 12:49 a.m., Snidely wrote:
> Watch this space, where Snidely advised that...
>> NSF reorts on a letter from NASA to the FAA for allowing a NASA
>> Gulfstream an exception while it is calibrating imaging equipment to
>> prepare for a reentry event over the Indian Ocean, NET Jan 11 2025.
>
>
> And we have had booster spin prime and static fire complete, as of Dec
> 07 and Dec 09 respectively.

Yes. But what I think is most interesting is not the preparations and
the date for the launch of flight 7. It is the pace they are planing for
2025. SpaceX wants to launch 25 Starships in 2025.

They should be ready for the next, Nov-Dec 2026, Mars launch window. I
don't know if they will have a payload ready for Mars by then. Maybe
they will just do a demo flight. Even if they just put a Tesla Roadster
on Mars (let's hope they don't forget to put a copy of "The Hitchhiker's
Guide to the Galaxy" and a towel in the glove compartment) it would
signal that others can build stuff for Mars and know that they can
easily find a ride for it.

Alain Fournier

Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
From: Snidely
Newsgroups: sci.space.policy
Organization: Dis One
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 12:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
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Remember Friday, when Alain Fournier asked plaintively:
> On 2024-12-13 12:49 a.m., Snidely wrote:
>> Watch this space, where Snidely advised that...
>>> NSF reorts on a letter from NASA to the FAA for allowing a NASA Gulfstream
>>> an exception while it is calibrating imaging equipment to prepare for a
>>> reentry event over the Indian Ocean, NET Jan 11 2025.
>>
>>
>> And we have had booster spin prime and static fire complete, as of Dec 07
>> and Dec 09 respectively.
>
> Yes. But what I think is most interesting is not the preparations and the
> date for the launch of flight 7. It is the pace they are planing for 2025.
> SpaceX wants to launch 25 Starships in 2025.
>
> They should be ready for the next, Nov-Dec 2026, Mars launch window. I don't
> know if they will have a payload ready for Mars by then. Maybe they will just
> do a demo flight. Even if they just put a Tesla Roadster on Mars (let's hope
> they don't forget to put a copy of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" and
> a towel in the glove compartment) it would signal that others can build stuff
> for Mars and know that they can easily find a ride for it.
>
>
> Alain Fournier

Do you believe 25 launches next year? I'm hearing 8-12 from some
pretty close followers.

/dps

--
"Inviting people to laugh with you while you are laughing at yourself
is a good thing to do, You may be a fool but you're the fool in
charge." -- Carl Reiner

Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
From: Alain Fournier
Newsgroups: sci.space.policy
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 15:40 UTC
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From: alain245@videotron.ca (Alain Fournier)
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Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
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On 2024-12-14 7:01 a.m., Snidely wrote:
> Remember  Friday, when  Alain Fournier asked plaintively:
>> On 2024-12-13 12:49 a.m., Snidely wrote:
>>> Watch this space, where Snidely advised that...
>>>> NSF reorts on a letter from NASA to the FAA for allowing a NASA
>>>> Gulfstream an exception while it is calibrating imaging equipment to
>>>> prepare for a reentry event over the Indian Ocean, NET Jan 11 2025.
>>>
>>>
>>> And we have had booster spin prime and static fire complete, as of
>>> Dec 07 and Dec 09 respectively.
>>
>> Yes. But what I think is most interesting is not the preparations and
>> the date for the launch of flight 7. It is the pace they are planing
>> for 2025. SpaceX wants to launch 25 Starships in 2025.
>>
>> They should be ready for the next, Nov-Dec 2026, Mars launch window. I
>> don't know if they will have a payload ready for Mars by then. Maybe
>> they will just do a demo flight. Even if they just put a Tesla
>> Roadster on Mars (let's hope they don't forget to put a copy of "The
>> Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" and a towel in the glove
>> compartment) it would signal that others can build stuff for Mars and
>> know that they can easily find a ride for it.
>>
>>
>> Alain Fournier
>
> Do you believe 25 launches next year?  I'm hearing 8-12 from some pretty
> close followers.

It is just a number I saw somewhere on the internet. I don't know how
likely it is to come true. But I do expect them to be reusing at least
some Super Heavy boosters next year. Once they are reusing, filling up
the tanks for a new launch isn't all that long.

Alain Fournier

Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
From: Snidely
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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
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On Saturday or thereabouts, Alain Fournier declared ...
> On 2024-12-14 7:01 a.m., Snidely wrote:
>> Remember  Friday, when  Alain Fournier asked plaintively:
>>> On 2024-12-13 12:49 a.m., Snidely wrote:
>>>> Watch this space, where Snidely advised that...
>>>>> NSF reorts on a letter from NASA to the FAA for allowing a NASA
>>>>> Gulfstream an exception while it is calibrating imaging equipment to
>>>>> prepare for a reentry event over the Indian Ocean, NET Jan 11 2025.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And we have had booster spin prime and static fire complete, as of Dec 07
>>>> and Dec 09 respectively.
>>>
>>> Yes. But what I think is most interesting is not the preparations and the
>>> date for the launch of flight 7. It is the pace they are planing for 2025.
>>> SpaceX wants to launch 25 Starships in 2025.
>>>
>>> They should be ready for the next, Nov-Dec 2026, Mars launch window. I
>>> don't know if they will have a payload ready for Mars by then. Maybe they
>>> will just do a demo flight. Even if they just put a Tesla Roadster on Mars
>>> (let's hope they don't forget to put a copy of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to
>>> the Galaxy" and a towel in the glove compartment) it would signal that
>>> others can build stuff for Mars and know that they can easily find a ride
>>> for it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Alain Fournier
>>
>> Do you believe 25 launches next year?  I'm hearing 8-12 from some pretty
>> close followers.
>
> It is just a number I saw somewhere on the internet.

It's from a quote from Gwen, who usually doesn't go too far into Elon
time. But still ....

> I don't know how likely
> it is to come true. But I do expect them to be reusing at least some Super
> Heavy boosters next year. Once they are reusing, filling up the tanks for a
> new launch isn't all that long.
>
>
> Alain Fournier

Reusing boosters will help, but it's still taking about 2 months
between ships. Block 2 may get to 1 a month, but still ....

/dps

--
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In case of fire, exit the building before tweeting about it.
(Sighting reported by Adam F)

Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
From: Alain Fournier
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On 2024-12-14 2:45 p.m., Snidely wrote:
> On Saturday or thereabouts, Alain Fournier declared ...
>> On 2024-12-14 7:01 a.m., Snidely wrote:
>>> Remember  Friday, when  Alain Fournier asked plaintively:
>>>> On 2024-12-13 12:49 a.m., Snidely wrote:
>>>>> Watch this space, where Snidely advised that...
>>>>>> NSF reorts on a letter from NASA to the FAA for allowing a NASA
>>>>>> Gulfstream an exception while it is calibrating imaging equipment
>>>>>> to prepare for a reentry event over the Indian Ocean, NET Jan 11
>>>>>> 2025.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And we have had booster spin prime and static fire complete, as of
>>>>> Dec 07 and Dec 09 respectively.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. But what I think is most interesting is not the preparations
>>>> and the date for the launch of flight 7. It is the pace they are
>>>> planing for 2025. SpaceX wants to launch 25 Starships in 2025.
>>>>
>>>> They should be ready for the next, Nov-Dec 2026, Mars launch window.
>>>> I don't know if they will have a payload ready for Mars by then.
>>>> Maybe they will just do a demo flight. Even if they just put a Tesla
>>>> Roadster on Mars (let's hope they don't forget to put a copy of "The
>>>> Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" and a towel in the glove
>>>> compartment) it would signal that others can build stuff for Mars
>>>> and know that they can easily find a ride for it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alain Fournier
>>>
>>> Do you believe 25 launches next year?  I'm hearing 8-12 from some
>>> pretty close followers.
>>
>> It is just a number I saw somewhere on the internet.
>
> It's from a quote from Gwen, who usually doesn't go too far into Elon
> time.  But still ....
>
>> I don't know how likely it is to come true. But I do expect them to be
>> reusing at least some Super Heavy boosters next year. Once they are
>> reusing, filling up the tanks for a new launch isn't all that long.
>>
>>
>> Alain Fournier
>
> Reusing  boosters will help, but it's still taking about 2 months
> between ships.  Block 2 may get to 1 a month, but still ....
>

I think it is not unlikely that by the end of 2025 they will be reusing
both the booster and the ship. Not a sure thing but a real possibility.
At that point, they might be able to launch multiple times per week.

Alain Fournier

Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
From: Snidely
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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 12:02 UTC
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Lo, on the 12/12/2024, Snidely did proclaim ...
> Watch this space, where Snidely advised that...
>> NSF reorts on a letter from NASA to the FAA for allowing a NASA Gulfstream
>> an exception while it is calibrating imaging equipment to prepare for a
>> reentry event over the Indian Ocean, NET Jan 11 2025.
>
>
> And we have had booster spin prime and static fire complete, as of Dec 07 and
> Dec 09 respectively.

Launch license in hand.

/dps

--
Let's celebrate Macaronesia

Subject: Re: Starship Flight 7 NET Jan 11
From: Snidely
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Remember Tuesday, when Snidely asked plaintively:
> NSF reorts on a letter from NASA to the FAA for allowing a NASA Gulfstream an
> exception while it is calibrating imaging equipment to prepare for a reentry
> event over the Indian Ocean, NET Jan 11 2025.
>
> /dps

Currently NET Jan 16 2025 4pm CST, 1 hour window. Slipped from 15th
for weather.

/dps

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