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Subject: Now 82 aliens here
From: David Dalton
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From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton)
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A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.

I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
As I posted before, this would include evolution of
humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
300 years.,

The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
(photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
four species, as I have posted before.

I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
(both are new/dark moons).

For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
“Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .

If you know any aliens, pass this to them.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

Subject: Re: Now 82 aliens here
From: David Dalton
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From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton)
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On Oct 24, 2024, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2CCA2C72004FDEE370000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>):

> A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
> species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
> plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
>
> I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
> birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
> As I posted before, this would include evolution of
> humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
> group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
> in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
> 300 years.,
>
> The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
> Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
> (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
> who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
> four species, as I have posted before.
>
> I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
> to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
> (both are new/dark moons).
>
> For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
> “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
>
> If you know any aliens, pass this to them.

If it works, how would I explain it to atheists? In my
sun stare of September 5, 1991 I got a peek into
higher dimensions, and just after it there was a wraparound
effect which augmented my higher dimensional form.
In the last over 28 years I have been flapping my
higher dimensional butterfly wings in an attempt to
trigger nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory global
systemic change, with the sudden evolution being
part of that.

In the meantime I expect some on sci.astro have me
in their killfile, as I have the flat Earth posts.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

Subject: Re: Now 82 aliens here
From: kazu
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David Dalton wrote:
> On Oct 24, 2024, David Dalton wrote
> (in article<0001HW.2CCA2C72004FDEE370000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>):
>
>> A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
>> species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
>> plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
>>
>> I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
>> birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
>> As I posted before, this would include evolution of
>> humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
>> group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
>> in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
>> 300 years.,
>>
>> The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
>> Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
>> (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
>> who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
>> four species, as I have posted before.
>>
>> I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
>> to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
>> (both are new/dark moons).
>>
>> For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
>> “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
>>
>> If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
>
> If it works, how would I explain it to atheists? In my
> sun stare of September 5, 1991 I got a peek into
> higher dimensions, and just after it there was a wraparound
> effect which augmented my higher dimensional form.
> In the last over 28 years I have been flapping my
> higher dimensional butterfly wings in an attempt to
> trigger nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory global
> systemic change, with the sudden evolution being
> part of that.
>
> In the meantime I expect some on sci.astro have me
> in their killfile, as I have the flat Earth posts.
>

how many dimensions would you say are there?

Subject: Re: Now 82 aliens here
From: Titus G
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On 25/10/24 23:31, kazu wrote:
> David Dalton wrote:
>> On Oct 24, 2024, David Dalton wrote
>> (in
>> article<0001HW.2CCA2C72004FDEE370000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>):
>>
>>> A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
>>> species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
>>> plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
>>>
>>> I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
>>> birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
>>> As I posted before, this would include evolution of
>>> humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
>>> group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
>>> in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
>>> 300 years.,
>>>
>>> The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
>>> Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
>>> (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
>>> who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
>>> four species, as I have posted before.
>>>
>>> I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
>>> to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
>>> (both are new/dark moons).
>>>
>>> For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
>>> “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
>>>
>>> If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
>>
>> If it works, how would I explain it to atheists? In my
>> sun stare of September 5, 1991 I got a peek into
>> higher dimensions, and just after it there was a wraparound
>> effect which augmented my higher dimensional form.
>> In the last over 28 years I have been flapping my
>> higher dimensional butterfly wings in an attempt to
>> trigger nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory global
>> systemic change, with the sudden evolution being
>> part of that.
>>
>> In the meantime I expect some on sci.astro have me
>> in their killfile, as I have the flat Earth posts.
>>

Is it significant that the names of this alien identifying poster BOTH
begin with an upper case "D"?

>
> how many dimensions would you say are there?
>
>

This should be an easy question for our (rasfw) own Dimensional
Traveller to answer and I await any ensuing befuddlement with curiosity.

Subject: Re: Now 82 aliens here
From: David Dalton
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From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton)
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On Oct 25, 2024, kazu wrote
(in article<4954c28d-fccb-5d90-ec49-63a0f354d465@ichigo.kinoko.kuri>):

> David Dalton wrote:
> > On Oct 24, 2024, David Dalton wrote
> > (in article<0001HW.2CCA2C72004FDEE370000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>)
> > :
> >
> > > A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
> > > species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
> > > plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
> > >
> > > I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
> > > birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
> > > As I posted before, this would include evolution of
> > > humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
> > > group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
> > > in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
> > > 300 years.,
> > >
> > > The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
> > > Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
> > > (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
> > > who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
> > > four species, as I have posted before.
> > >
> > > I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
> > > to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
> > > (both are new/dark moons).
> > >
> > > For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
> > > “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
> > >
> > > If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
> >
> > If it works, how would I explain it to atheists? In my
> > sun stare of September 5, 1991 I got a peek into
> > higher dimensions, and just after it there was a wraparound
> > effect which augmented my higher dimensional form.
> > In the last over 28 years I have been flapping my
> > higher dimensional butterfly wings in an attempt to
> > trigger nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory global
> > systemic change, with the sudden evolution being
> > part of that.
> >
> > In the meantime I expect some on sci.astro have me
> > in their killfile, as I have the flat Earth posts.
>
> how many dimensions would you say are there?

I don’t know. At one time I said there is a seven-dimensional
cardioid with five of space and two of time (or rather a
complex time with a real part and a small imaginary part
that was more significant near the Big Bang if any). At
another time I thought there were 55 dimensions. I
do have some physics clues generated during waning
crescent highs that I plan to eventually follow up on,
and I do have some mathematical background.

In the peek I got into higher dimension(s) while staring
at the sun briefly with my glasses off, it was as if space
tilted slightly and there was a tunnelling beyond the sun
(at the upper right of the sun), as if I was looking into
a space between two mirrors facing one another. This
tunnelling could be likened to a horn of oil with its
wide mouth facing me, and “anointing” me. Then as
I looked away, near-invisible wings of space descended
on me, like umbrella spokes or a metal vegetable
steamer folding in on me, and I blacked out and fell
into the water to come to in the upward-facing dog
pose of the yoga sun salutation series (so chest expanded
so I wouldn’t drown). This I liken to the descent of
wings on Jesus during his baptism, which I believe
was his anointing by the divine, and which gave him
the names Messiah and Christ, which both mean
anointed one. But was it the sun doing the anointing
of someone beyond the sun? I am not yet sure. The
Lakota talk of someone beyond or behind the sun,
and they have a Sun Gazing Dance which may have
its origins in an experience like mine.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

Subject: Re: Now 82 aliens here
From: David Dalton
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From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton)
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On Oct 26, 2024, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2CCCA2CD00E1818D70000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>):

> On Oct 25, 2024, kazu wrote
> (in article<4954c28d-fccb-5d90-ec49-63a0f354d465@ichigo.kinoko.kuri>):
>
> > David Dalton wrote:
> > > On Oct 24, 2024, David Dalton wrote
> > > (in article<0001HW.2CCA2C72004FDEE370000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>
> > > )
> > >
> > > > A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
> > > > species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
> > > > plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
> > > >
> > > > I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
> > > > birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
> > > > As I posted before, this would include evolution of
> > > > humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
> > > > group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
> > > > in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
> > > > 300 years.,
> > > >
> > > > The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
> > > > Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
> > > > (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
> > > > who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
> > > > four species, as I have posted before.
> > > >
> > > > I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
> > > > to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
> > > > (both are new/dark moons).
> > > >
> > > > For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
> > > > “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
> > > >
> > > > If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
> > >
> > > If it works, how would I explain it to atheists? In my
> > > sun stare of September 5, 1991 I got a peek into
> > > higher dimensions, and just after it there was a wraparound
> > > effect which augmented my higher dimensional form.
> > > In the last over 28 years I have been flapping my
> > > higher dimensional butterfly wings in an attempt to
> > > trigger nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory global
> > > systemic change, with the sudden evolution being
> > > part of that.
> > >
> > > In the meantime I expect some on sci.astro have me
> > > in their killfile, as I have the flat Earth posts.
> >
> > how many dimensions would you say are there?
>
> I don’t know. At one time I said there is a seven-dimensional
> cardioid with five of space and two of time (or rather a
> complex time with a real part and a small imaginary part
> that was more significant near the Big Bang if any). At
> another time I thought there were 55 dimensions. I
> do have some physics clues generated during waning
> crescent highs that I plan to eventually follow up on,
> and I do have some mathematical background.
>
> In the peek I got into higher dimension(s) while staring
> at the sun briefly with my glasses off, it was as if space
> tilted

or dimpled

> slightly and there was a tunnelling beyond the sun
> (at the upper right of the sun), as if I was looking into
> a space between two mirrors facing one another. This
> tunnelling could be likened to a horn of oil with its
> wide mouth facing me, and “anointing” me. Then as
> I looked away, near-invisible wings of space descended
> on me, like umbrella spokes or a metal vegetable
> steamer folding in on me, and I blacked out and fell
> into the water to come to in the upward-facing dog
> pose of the yoga sun salutation series (so chest expanded
> so I wouldn’t drown). This I liken to the descent of
> wings on Jesus during his baptism, which I believe
> was his anointing by the divine, and which gave him
> the names Messiah and Christ, which both mean
> anointed one. But was it the sun doing the anointing
> of someone beyond the sun? I am not yet sure. The
> Lakota talk of someone beyond or behind the sun,
> and they have a Sun Gazing Dance which may have
> its origins in an experience like mine.

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David Dalton wrote:
> On Oct 26, 2024, David Dalton wrote
> (in article<0001HW.2CCCA2CD00E1818D70000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>):
>
>> On Oct 25, 2024, kazu wrote
>> (in article<4954c28d-fccb-5d90-ec49-63a0f354d465@ichigo.kinoko.kuri>):
>>
>>> David Dalton wrote:
>>>> On Oct 24, 2024, David Dalton wrote
>>>> (in article<0001HW.2CCA2C72004FDEE370000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>>> A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
>>>>> species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
>>>>> plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
>>>>> birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
>>>>> As I posted before, this would include evolution of
>>>>> humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
>>>>> group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
>>>>> in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
>>>>> 300 years.,
>>>>>
>>>>> The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
>>>>> Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
>>>>> (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
>>>>> who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
>>>>> four species, as I have posted before.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
>>>>> to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
>>>>> (both are new/dark moons).
>>>>>
>>>>> For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
>>>>> “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
>>>>>
>>>>> If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
>>>>
>>>> If it works, how would I explain it to atheists? In my
>>>> sun stare of September 5, 1991 I got a peek into
>>>> higher dimensions, and just after it there was a wraparound
>>>> effect which augmented my higher dimensional form.
>>>> In the last over 28 years I have been flapping my
>>>> higher dimensional butterfly wings in an attempt to
>>>> trigger nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory global
>>>> systemic change, with the sudden evolution being
>>>> part of that.
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime I expect some on sci.astro have me
>>>> in their killfile, as I have the flat Earth posts.
>>>
>>> how many dimensions would you say are there?
>>
>> I don’t know. At one time I said there is a seven-dimensional
>> cardioid with five of space and two of time (or rather a
>> complex time with a real part and a small imaginary part
>> that was more significant near the Big Bang if any). At
>> another time I thought there were 55 dimensions. I
>> do have some physics clues generated during waning
>> crescent highs that I plan to eventually follow up on,
>> and I do have some mathematical background.
>>
>> In the peek I got into higher dimension(s) while staring
>> at the sun briefly with my glasses off, it was as if space
>> tilted
>
> or dimpled
>
>> slightly and there was a tunnelling beyond the sun
>> (at the upper right of the sun), as if I was looking into
>> a space between two mirrors facing one another. This
>> tunnelling could be likened to a horn of oil with its
>> wide mouth facing me, and “anointing” me. Then as
>> I looked away, near-invisible wings of space descended
>> on me, like umbrella spokes or a metal vegetable
>> steamer folding in on me, and I blacked out and fell
>> into the water to come to in the upward-facing dog
>> pose of the yoga sun salutation series (so chest expanded
>> so I wouldn’t drown). This I liken to the descent of
>> wings on Jesus during his baptism, which I believe
>> was his anointing by the divine, and which gave him
>> the names Messiah and Christ, which both mean
>> anointed one. But was it the sun doing the anointing
>> of someone beyond the sun? I am not yet sure. The
>> Lakota talk of someone beyond or behind the sun,
>> and they have a Sun Gazing Dance which may have
>> its origins in an experience like mine.
>

you have to wonder if these things keep changing, what is the
point of believing in them??

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