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Reposting to ssh this clip from a thread at a different forum.
One quote (from final post below):
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This thread has explained how US astronauts walking on the Moon happened because of Adolf Hitler's leadership.
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The posts in their entirety:
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Da Hawk
17 hours ago
I just now did a search, and apparently there is still at least one corner of the internet which respects Freedom of Speech.

I found it here, over on DailyMotion.com:

Adolf Hitler The Greatest Story Never Told-1of27
https://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x42vjp

I haven't scrubbed too deep, but I'm only seeing six of the episodes.
And even after you get through all 27, it does not say one single word about how Adolf Hitler is the reason why we have The Internet today. Or digital cameras. Or GPS. Etc. I've never seen ANYONE say that. Even though these are simple facts.

But at least it is something.

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Da Hawk
17 hours ago
Ah, I should have known that Google has BLOCKED the most important links.
Switching search engines, HERE I found the entire documentary:

_*Adolf Hitler - The Greatest Story Never Told Original English Full Version HD*_
https://archive.org/details/adolf-hitler-the-greatest-story-never-told-original-english-full-version-hd-6h-32min

But as I've stated, even after going through 6 and a half hours, this doc barely scratches the surface of the full impact that Hitler has had on today's society.

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Archives of Fantasy
8 hours ago
@Da Hawk was not the internet made in the US and the www in the UK?
Industrial revolution started in Britain. Why do you insist on crediting h1tler with the current world? Turing made his breakthroughs in computing specifically to beat h1tler.

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Da Hawk
7 hours ago
@Archives of Fantasy
The full explanation was given earlier in this thread. But this has gotten crazy long, so I'll summarize here...

Hitler did not invent the computer. Hitler did not invent the internet. But here is what Hitler did:
There is a long list of positive things that Hitler did intentionally. And there is an even longer list of positive things that were _the result_ of Hitler's leadership that happened unintentionally.

One of the most powerful motivators in all human beings is SURVIVAL. If your life is threatened, and you can foresee that your death will be a probable end result if you don't take action, then it can be astounding to see the extremes that people will go to so that that result will be avoided.

In the 20th century, by far the most pervasive motivator in terms of survival of entire countries was the severe threat of nuclear weapons. The USSR saw that the USA had this technology, and so they went to extremes to acquire it themselves. In return, back in North America, the USA went to extremes in order to DEFEND against this new Soviet threat. DETECTION became key to this plan. And so a string of computerized radar detection centers were built across the entire width of Canada. "Pinetree Line" was built in 1951, stretching across southern Canada. Followed by the "Mid-Canada Line" across, appropriately enough, the middle of Canada. And then the "DEW Line", way up across the northern stretches of Canada to provide "Distant Early Warning".

Now it was important to coordinate any radar blips detected by these radar stations, so these computers needed to be connected in order to be fully effective. Pinetree Line was this huge leap in technology when it came to networking computers.

When things develop to the next level, you start looking at connecting various computer networks together. And the famous experiment here was the ArpaNet. Now we've fast forwarded to 1969. So basically two decades further. And here too, this prime motivator of survival played a critical role. One of the key architects was a guy named Paul Baran. You can read his original research paper he did with RAND, here:
https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_memoranda/2006/RM3420.pdf

Or you can listen to him explain in his own words what his motivations were:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7er6E9i1y5I&t=1m36s

The short of it can readily be seen in his most famous diagram from that paper, here:
https://images.theconversation.com/files/143778/original/image-20161029-15783-1e7xkao.png

Here too, the prime motivator was defending against a NUCLEAR ATTACK.

If the architecture for this networking of computers were done in the same way that AT&T/Bell Telephone had created the phone system, in a CENTRALIZED architecture as shown on the left, then one strike against that central node will take down the entire system. Even a Decentralized System had critical vulnerability that could be taken down if several nodes were destroyed.

So the most survivable network would be the one shown on the right, the network that looks like a net. The Distributed Network. This is the one that was built. And this is the reason why the Web is called the Web. Because connecting your computers this way looks like something a spider would spin.

That's the short story of the Internet.

Now here's how we got Digital Cameras...
This story too hinges on this prime motivator of SURVIVAL. If you want to survive in the Cold War, you need to have INTEL on what the other side is doing. This requires SPY SATELLITES. Those first ones used FILM CAMERAS. And to get those photos to the commanders who needed this info, these satellites would actually DEORBIT their film canisters, where they would parachute back through the atmosphere, and get plucked straight out of the sky by specialized aircraft. I kid you not. A similar system was featured in one of the old James Bond films.

Well this method obviously had severe limits. But the clever engineers up in Rochester, New York working at Kodak came up with this invention called the CCD. A "Charged Coupled Device", which was an electronic array of sensors which could be made to take photos digitally. The CIA JUMPED on this technology, knowing that they could finally get around this primitive FILM bottleneck.

So the reason why we have the Internet the way it is is because of the threat of nuclear war. And that is the same reason why we have digital cameras in all of our pockets. Though it took plenty of decades for the technology to move from orbit into our pockets.

This is also the same reason why we have GPS. This satellite constellation took billions of dollars to develop. And the only way to justify that obscene cost was because our very survival depended upon it. Our ability to hit back with a Second Strike in a nuclear exchange would be significantly reduced if bombers got lost on their way across the planet. So this clever method of making navigation a whole lot more reliable was funded as a "FORCE MULTIPLIER" that would increase the effectiveness of our nuke forces.

Now I've typed out all these paragraphs above without a single mention of Adolf Hitler.

All of the info above is COMMON KNOWLEDGE. Anyone who looks into it can easily find these stories, as they are extremely well documented. But what you will NOT FIND is anyone mentioning that these ALL HAPPENED AS A RESULT OF HITLER'S LEADERSHIP.

Or if you do find anyone saying it, I would be extremely interested to see that. Because I have looked, but never found it. You asked:
"Why do you insist on crediting h1tler..."

No one else credits him. Ok. But if you look on the other side of the story, THAT part is extremely well documented as well. This is the question as to WHY nuclear bombs were invented in the first place. Here, absolutely everyone is clear that there was ONE REASON why the Manhattan Project got funded. You can go back to Leo Szilard's letter to President Roosevelt, and famously signed by Einstein:

The USA pushed this outrageously huge effort to invent nukes BECAUSE OF THE THREAT THAT HITLER MIGHT BEAT THEM TO IT.

So everyone who has looked into it is clear that Hitler is the reason why we have nukes. Germany was defeated by conventional means TWO MONTHS prior to that first detonation at Trinity Site. So the nukes were used against Japan instead.

Everyone is clear that we have nukes because of Hitler.
Everyone who knows is likewise clear that we have the Internet, digital cameras, GPS, etc, because of nukes.

All that I have done here is the most obvious Connect-The-Dots, adding 2+2 to explain that:
Hitler is the reason why we have all of these things that have shaped our modern society.

It is a topic worthy of a book. It is a topic worthy of a feature-length movie. And it is certainly a topic worthy of at least ONE video here on YouTube. Yet no book, no movie, and not even a single video exists. NO ONE wants to touch this with a 10-foot pole.

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Da Hawk

6 hours ago
You've seen JJ dismiss this ALL as having "nothing to do with anything."

He's a smart guy. He has the aptitude to follow this entire explanation. Yet he is completely uninterested. And Matthew Beat has been completely silent also. People who claim to care about educating the public actually don't. Not when it comes to Adolf Hitler. And this PROFOUND WAY he has shaped our day to day activities.

There's loads more that's been explained in this thread.
Along with the Internet, digital cameras and GPS, there is also Hitler as being the driver behind why we have jet airliners today. Sure, it is well known that the Nazis were the first to fly a jet aircraft. But there is also that unintended effect to go along with their very intentional push. And this unintentional angle, yet again, was driven by the nuclear threat.


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