On 2024-04-29 1:36 p.m., Malte Runz wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 21:38:00 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
>>
>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level of ...beliefs.
>
> Nope. Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of a god.

How is that not a belief?

>>
>>
>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, ...
>
> That's a strawman. Not believing in the existence of a god is not the
> same as a belief in the non-existence of a god.

Huh? That's nonsense.

>
>> ... as Religions are confident that there is a God.
>
>
> "Religions" are not confident that there is a god. The followers are.
> Anyway...
>>
>>
>>
>> They are are both on the same level of ...beliefs.
>
> Without claiming knowledge, I would say that I believe there are no
> gods. But the difference between my belief and the theist's belief is
> that I can be proven wrong, whereas the theist can't. And that is the
> fundamental difference between the two kinds of belief.
>

Tim wrote:

> On 2024-04-29 1:36 p.m., Malte Runz wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 21:38:00 -0700, The Starmaker
> ><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
> > >
> > > Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level
> > > of ...beliefs.
> >
> > Nope. Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of a god.
>
> How is that not a belief?
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Atheist are confident that there is no God, ...
> >
> > That's a strawman. Not believing in the existence of a god is not
> > the same as a belief in the non-existence of a god.
>
> Huh? That's nonsense.
>

Atheists are filled with nonsense because there fools.

--
Always remember, Jesus loves you and so do I! Each and every one of
you! I love you!

Am Sonntag000012, 12.05.2024 um 12:45 schrieb Tim:
> On 2024-04-29 1:36 p.m., Malte Runz wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 21:38:00 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
>>>
>>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level of
>>> ...beliefs.
>>
>> Nope. Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of a god.
>
> How is that not a belief?
>
>>>
>>>
>>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, ...
>>
>> That's a strawman. Not believing in the existence of a god is not the
>> same as a belief in the non-existence of a god.
>
> Huh? That's nonsense.

The first has a different name: agnosticism.

That's more or less: we don't care, because we cannot know

While atheists believe, that god does not exist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism
....

TH

On Sun, 12 May 2024 20:47:21 +0200, Thomas Heger
<ttt_heg@web.de> in alt.atheism with message-id
<lach5lFop8rU1@mid.individual.net> wrote:

>Am Sonntag000012, 12.05.2024 um 12:45 schrieb Tim:
>> On 2024-04-29 1:36 p.m., Malte Runz wrote:
>>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 21:38:00 -0700, The Starmaker
>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
>>>>
>>>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level of
>>>> ...beliefs.
>>>
>>> Nope. Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of a god.
>>
>> How is that not a belief?
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, ...
>>>
>>> That's a strawman. Not believing in the existence of a god is not the
>>> same as a belief in the non-existence of a god.
>>
>> Huh? That's nonsense.
>
>The first has a different name: agnosticism.
>
>That's more or less: we don't care, because we cannot know
>
>While atheists believe, that god does not exist.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism

Equally we don't "believe" werewolves, elves, dragons, shape
shifters. or vampires exist.

And not collecting stamps is a hobby.

>...
>
>TH

--

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Sonntag000012, 12.05.2024 um 12:45 schrieb Tim:
>> On 2024-04-29 1:36 p.m., Malte Runz wrote:
>>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 21:38:00 -0700, The Starmaker
>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
>>>>
>>>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level of
>>>> ...beliefs.
>>>
>>> Nope. Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of a god.
>>
>> How is that not a belief?
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, ...
>>>
>>> That's a strawman. Not believing in the existence of a god is not the
>>> same as a belief in the non-existence of a god.
>>
>> Huh? That's nonsense.
>
> The first has a different name: agnosticism.
>
> That's more or less: we don't care, because we cannot know

Agnosticism is simply saying "I don't now if there is a God"

Atheism has to do with belief "I don't believe any god exists"

>
> While atheists believe, that god does not exist.

or believe there is no God

>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism
> ...
>
> TH

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

On Mon, 13 May 2024, Maximus wrote:

> Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Sonntag000012, 12.05.2024 um 12:45 schrieb Tim:
>>> On 2024-04-29 1:36 p.m., Malte Runz wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 21:38:00 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
>>>>>
>>>>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level of
>>>>> ...beliefs.
>>>>
>>>> Nope. Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of a god.
>>>
>>> How is that not a belief?
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, ...
>>>>
>>>> That's a strawman. Not believing in the existence of a god is not the
>>>> same as a belief in the non-existence of a god.
>>>
>>> Huh? That's nonsense.
>>
>> The first has a different name: agnosticism.
>>
>> That's more or less: we don't care, because we cannot know
>
> Agnosticism is simply saying "I don't now if there is a God"
>
> Atheism has to do with belief "I don't believe any god exists"

Incorrect.

Atheism, means not belief in x, where x is some kind of deity.

Theism: b(x). (where b is belief in, x deity)
Atheism:; !b(x). (where ! is not, b is belief in, and x deity)

Theists that argue that atheism is a belief, in my book and
interpretation and definition, they are arguing that !b = b which is a
logical contradiction, and hence an invalid argument.

>> While atheists believe, that god does not exist.
>
> or believe there is no God
>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism
>> ...
>>
>> TH
>
>
>

D wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 13 May 2024, Maximus wrote:
>
>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>> Am Sonntag000012, 12.05.2024 um 12:45 schrieb Tim:
>>>> On 2024-04-29 1:36 p.m., Malte Runz wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 21:38:00 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level
>>>>>> of ...beliefs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of a god.
>>>>
>>>> How is that not a belief?
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, ...
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a strawman. Not believing in the existence of a god is not the
>>>>> same as a belief in the non-existence of a god.
>>>>
>>>> Huh? That's nonsense.
>>>
>>> The first has a different name: agnosticism.
>>>
>>> That's more or less: we don't care, because we cannot know
>>
>> Agnosticism is simply saying "I don't now if there is a God"
>>
>> Atheism has to do with belief "I don't believe any god exists"
>
> Incorrect.
>
> Atheism, means not belief in x, where x is some kind of deity.
>
> Theism: b(x). (where b is belief in, x deity)
> Atheism:; !b(x). (where ! is not, b is belief in, and x deity)
>
> Theists that argue that atheism is a belief, in my book and
> interpretation and definition, they are arguing that !b = b which is a
> logical contradiction, and hence an invalid argument.

well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day, it all comes
down to '"atheists don't believe in God"

>
>>> While atheists believe, that god does not exist.
>>
>> or believe there is no God
>>
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism
>>> ...
>>>
>>> TH
>>
>>
>>

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

"Maximus"wrote in message news:lae54fF1qu8U1@mid.individual.net...
> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day,
> it all comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"

In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!

Such as ~ DNA.

DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result
of-->an Intelligent causation. And -not- the result
of a "'materialistic only'" process.

On Mon, 13 May 2024 03:20:16 -0700, "Andrew"
<andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<vPl0O.133753$Z6Dc.74940@fx04.ams4> wrote:

>"Maximus"wrote in message news:lae54fF1qu8U1@mid.individual.net...
>
>> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day,
>> it all comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"
>
>In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!
>
>Such as ~ DNA.
>
>DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result
>of-->an Intelligent causation. And -not- the result
>of a "'materialistic only'" process.

Nonsense. You are posting a belief - there are alternate
explanations for everything in DNA

--

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

Andrew wrote:
> "Maximus"wrote in message news:lae54fF1qu8U1@mid.individual.net...
>
>> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day, it all
>> comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"
>
> In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!
>
> Such as ~ DNA.
>
> DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result of-->an Intelligent
> causation. And -not- the result
> of a "'materialistic only'" process.

I believe others here have disputed that. I don't know enough about DNA
to discuss the matter.

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> wrote in news:laeahtF2i4bU1
@mid.individual.net:

> Andrew wrote:
>> "Maximus"wrote in message news:lae54fF1qu8U1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day, it all
>>> comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"
>>
>> In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!
>>
>> Such as ~ DNA.
>>
>> DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result of-->an Intelligent
>> causation. And -not- the result
>> of a "'materialistic only'" process.
>
> I believe others here have disputed that. I don't know enough about DNA
> to discuss the matter.
>

Andrew thinks that DNA just sprang
into existence fully formed. It didn't.
But as with all natural sciences he
rejects the findings and insists on
his Goddidit solutions.

Where did DNA come from?
Aug 26
https://geneticsunzipped.com/transcripts/2021/8/26/where-did-dna-come-from

Origins of DNA replication
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31513569/

Debating the origins of our DNA
https://researchoutreach.org/articles/evolutionary-theory-debating-origins-
our-dna/

"Attila" wrote in message news:0or34jd8f3k6k660fe82jv6qjbq3prds64@4ax.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>>"Maximus"wrote:
>>
>>> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day,
>>> it all comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"
>>
>>In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!
>>
>>Such as ~ DNA.
>>
>>DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result
>>of-->an Intelligent causation. And -not- the result
>>of a "'materialistic only'" process.
>
> Nonsense. You are posting a belief - there are
> alternate explanations for everything in DNA

The only reason your above is true, is because,
one can explain anything.if they resort to the
use of fantasy.

But for those who go by *real world science*
DNA is evidence that our origin was the result
of an Intelligent causation. And not the result of
a "'materialistic only'' process.

On Mon, 13 May 2024 14:14:51 -0700, "Andrew"
<andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<9pv0O.94411$muLb.48338@fx09.ams4> wrote:

>"Attila" wrote in message news:0or34jd8f3k6k660fe82jv6qjbq3prds64@4ax.com...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>"Maximus"wrote:
>>>
>>>> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day,
>>>> it all comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"
>>>
>>>In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!
>>>
>>>Such as ~ DNA.
>>>
>>>DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result
>>>of-->an Intelligent causation. And -not- the result
>>>of a "'materialistic only'" process.
>>
>> Nonsense. You are posting a belief - there are
>> alternate explanations for everything in DNA
>
>The only reason your above is true, is because,
>one can explain anything.if they resort to the
>use of fantasy.

Fantasy is unnecessary. Of course, to you fantasy is
anything that contradicts what you have decided is correct.

>
>But for those who go by *real world science*
>DNA is evidence that our origin was the result
>of an Intelligent causation. And not the result of
>a "'materialistic only'' process.

There is no evidence to support anything being not
materialistic only.

--

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

Andrew wrote:
> "Attila" wrote in message
> news:0or34jd8f3k6k660fe82jv6qjbq3prds64@4ax.com...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>> "Maximus"wrote:
>>>> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day, it all
>>>> comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"
>>>
>>> In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!
>>>
>>> Such as ~ DNA.
>>>
>>> DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result of-->an Intelligent
>>> causation. And -not- the result
>>> of a "'materialistic only'" process.
>>
>> Nonsense.  You are posting a belief - there are
>> alternate explanations for everything in DNA
>
> The only reason your above is true, is because, one can explain
> anything. if they resort to the
> use of fantasy.

like theists do then..

>
> But for those who go by *real world science*
> DNA is evidence that our origin  was the result
> of an Intelligent causation. And not the result of
> a "'materialistic only'' process.

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

"Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote in
news:9pv0O.94411$muLb.48338@fx09.ams4:

> "Attila" wrote in message
> news:0or34jd8f3k6k660fe82jv6qjbq3prds64@4ax.com...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>"Maximus"wrote:
>>>
>>>> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day,
>>>> it all comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"
>>>
>>>In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!
>>>
>>>Such as ~ DNA.
>>>
>>>DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result
>>>of-->an Intelligent causation. And -not- the result
>>>of a "'materialistic only'" process.
>>
>> Nonsense. You are posting a belief - there are
>> alternate explanations for everything in DNA
>
> The only reason your above is true, is because,
> one can explain anything.if they resort to the
> use of fantasy.
>
> But for those who go by *real world science*
> DNA is evidence that our origin was the result
> of an Intelligent causation. And not the result of
> a "'materialistic only'' process.

So we have your Intelligent
Designer to thank for polio and
measles and smallpox.

That IS what you are saying,
you know.

On 14/05/2024 8:39 am, Attila wrote:
> On Mon, 13 May 2024 14:14:51 -0700, "Andrew"
> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <9pv0O.94411$muLb.48338@fx09.ams4> wrote:
>
>> "Attila" wrote in message news:0or34jd8f3k6k660fe82jv6qjbq3prds64@4ax.com...
>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>> "Maximus"wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day,
>>>>> it all comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"
>>>>
>>>> In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!
>>>>
>>>> Such as ~ DNA.
>>>>
>>>> DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result
>>>> of-->an Intelligent causation. And -not- the result
>>>> of a "'materialistic only'" process.
>>>
>>> Nonsense. You are posting a belief - there are
>>> alternate explanations for everything in DNA
>>
>> The only reason your above is true, is because,
>> one can explain anything.if they resort to the
>> use of fantasy.
>
> Fantasy is unnecessary. Of course, to you fantasy is
> anything that contradicts what you have decided is correct.
>
>>
>> But for those who go by *real world science*
>> DNA is evidence that our origin was the result
>> of an Intelligent causation. And not the result of
>> a "'materialistic only'' process.
>
> There is no evidence to support anything being not
> materialistic only.

You have no sole, Attila.

That is what happens when you bring yourself into being.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

You gotta feel sorry for Atheists...

when they die, they ain't going ..nowhere.

Whereas all the religious people are going to Heaven.

Church origaniztions make more money than Atheists orginations.

Churches make more money than Apple and Microsoft put together!

Maybe I should start selling tickets to Heaven to Atheists..I mean
real tickets with boarding pass that you could hold in your hand and put
it in your pocket.
I take PayPal.

If an atheist marries a christian girl, i'll give him 50% off..and a
window seat.

In God We Trust. All others pay PayPal.

Michael Christ wrote:
>
> On 14/05/2024 8:39 am, Attila wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 May 2024 14:14:51 -0700, "Andrew"
> > <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > <9pv0O.94411$muLb.48338@fx09.ams4> wrote:
> >
> >> "Attila" wrote in message news:0or34jd8f3k6k660fe82jv6qjbq3prds64@4ax.com...
> >>> "Andrew" wrote:
> >>>> "Maximus"wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day,
> >>>>> it all comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"
> >>>>
> >>>> In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!
> >>>>
> >>>> Such as ~ DNA.
> >>>>
> >>>> DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result
> >>>> of-->an Intelligent causation. And -not- the result
> >>>> of a "'materialistic only'" process.
> >>>
> >>> Nonsense. You are posting a belief - there are
> >>> alternate explanations for everything in DNA
> >>
> >> The only reason your above is true, is because,
> >> one can explain anything.if they resort to the
> >> use of fantasy.
> >
> > Fantasy is unnecessary. Of course, to you fantasy is
> > anything that contradicts what you have decided is correct.
> >
> >>
> >> But for those who go by *real world science*
> >> DNA is evidence that our origin was the result
> >> of an Intelligent causation. And not the result of
> >> a "'materialistic only'' process.
> >
> > There is no evidence to support anything being not
> > materialistic only.
>
> You have no sole, Attila.
>
> That is what happens when you bring yourself into being.
>
> Michael Christ
>
> --
> God is God in all His Being.
>
> Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
> 10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
> everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.
>
> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>
> Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
> YET sinners, Christ died for us.
>
> Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
> is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
>
> Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
> are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
>
> Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
> hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
>
> "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."
>
> "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."
>
> "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
> God. When you find Him you have found the author."
>
> "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
> God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
> sin is not what you do; it is what you are."
>
> "Compromise will condemn you."
>
> "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."
>
> "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."
>
> "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
> know that?"
>
> "The way of truth is the testimony of life."
>
> "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
> where God intends."
>
> "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
>
> "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
> live, by faith."
>
> "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
>
> "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
> ahead."
>
> "You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."
>
> "Priority is everything."
>
> "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."
>
> "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
> it or to place it where it truly belongs."
>
> "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."
>
> "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
> an ignorant straw man."
>
> "Wait, rest, be still, and know."
>
> "No man can wash his own hands!!!"
>
> "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
> and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
>
> The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
> obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"
>
> "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."
>
> "Man is not the centre of being."
>
> "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."
>
> "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."
>
> "Man has no greater idol than his own will."
>
> "Where is God hiding? He isn't."
>
> "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."
>
> "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
> willingness to believe."
>
> "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
> and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."
>
> "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
> full of hope."
>
> "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
> through it so that a sinner could play God."
>
> "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."
>
> "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
> is the love of God."
>
> "The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
> pretending he is the meaning of life."
>
> "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
> still according to my power," says the Lord.
>
> What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
> order to explain the existence of existence.
>
> "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."
>
> "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
> Â What a gift in a fallen world!"
>
> "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"
>
> "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
> that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
> the glory of God"
>
> "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
> isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
> road."
>
> "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
> and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
> punished; it is what you are left with."
>
> "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
> birth it in a man."
>
> "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
> self-righteousness."
>
> "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."
>
> "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
> The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."
>
> "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."
>
> "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."
>
> "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"
>
> "There is no such thing as random!"
>
> "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
>
> "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
> you know nothing."
>
> "You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."
>
> "No sinner is sinless in any way."
>
> "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."
>
> "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
> a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."
>
> "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."
>
> "Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."
>
> "Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
> exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
> really are."
>
> "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

I don't know too much about Atheism...but is there a song yous sing in
an atheist church??? What's the title?
wat are the lyrics?

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you tryyyyy
No hell below us
Above us only skyyyyyy

Imagine there's no savior
just reason and rhyme
With knowledge our beacon
We reach for the skyyyy

We ain't going to heaven
cause we got no tickets
....

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> You gotta feel sorry for Atheists...
>
> when they die, they ain't going ..nowhere.
>
> Whereas all the religious people are going to Heaven.
>
> Church origaniztions make more money than Atheists orginations.
>
> Churches make more money than Apple and Microsoft put together!
>
> Maybe I should start selling tickets to Heaven to Atheists..I mean
> real tickets with boarding pass that you could hold in your hand and put
> it in your pocket.
> I take PayPal.
>
> If an atheist marries a christian girl, i'll give him 50% off..and a
> window seat.
>
> In God We Trust. All others pay PayPal.
>
> Michael Christ wrote:
> >
> > On 14/05/2024 8:39 am, Attila wrote:
> > > On Mon, 13 May 2024 14:14:51 -0700, "Andrew"
> > > <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > > <9pv0O.94411$muLb.48338@fx09.ams4> wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Attila" wrote in message news:0or34jd8f3k6k660fe82jv6qjbq3prds64@4ax.com...
> > >>> "Andrew" wrote:
> > >>>> "Maximus"wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day,
> > >>>>> it all comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Such as ~ DNA.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result
> > >>>> of-->an Intelligent causation. And -not- the result
> > >>>> of a "'materialistic only'" process.
> > >>>
> > >>> Nonsense. You are posting a belief - there are
> > >>> alternate explanations for everything in DNA
> > >>
> > >> The only reason your above is true, is because,
> > >> one can explain anything.if they resort to the
> > >> use of fantasy.
> > >
> > > Fantasy is unnecessary. Of course, to you fantasy is
> > > anything that contradicts what you have decided is correct.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> But for those who go by *real world science*
> > >> DNA is evidence that our origin was the result
> > >> of an Intelligent causation. And not the result of
> > >> a "'materialistic only'' process.
> > >
> > > There is no evidence to support anything being not
> > > materialistic only.
> >
> > You have no sole, Attila.
> >
> > That is what happens when you bring yourself into being.
> >
> > Michael Christ
> >
> > --
> > God is God in all His Being.
> >
> > Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
> > 10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
> > everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.
> >
> > Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
> >
> > Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
> > YET sinners, Christ died for us.
> >
> > Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
> > is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
> >
> > Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
> > are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
> >
> > Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
> > hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
> >
> > "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."
> >
> > "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."
> >
> > "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
> > God. When you find Him you have found the author."
> >
> > "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
> > God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
> > sin is not what you do; it is what you are."
> >
> > "Compromise will condemn you."
> >
> > "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."
> >
> > "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."
> >
> > "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
> > know that?"
> >
> > "The way of truth is the testimony of life."
> >
> > "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
> > where God intends."
> >
> > "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
> >
> > "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
> > live, by faith."
> >
> > "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
> >
> > "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
> > ahead."
> >
> > "You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."
> >
> > "Priority is everything."
> >
> > "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."
> >
> > "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
> > it or to place it where it truly belongs."
> >
> > "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."
> >
> > "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
> > an ignorant straw man."
> >
> > "Wait, rest, be still, and know."
> >
> > "No man can wash his own hands!!!"
> >
> > "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
> > and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
> >
> > The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
> > obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"
> >
> > "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."
> >
> > "Man is not the centre of being."
> >
> > "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."
> >
> > "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."
> >
> > "Man has no greater idol than his own will."
> >
> > "Where is God hiding? He isn't."
> >
> > "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."
> >
> > "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
> > willingness to believe."
> >
> > "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
> > and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."
> >
> > "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
> > full of hope."
> >
> > "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
> > through it so that a sinner could play God."
> >
> > "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."
> >
> > "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
> > is the love of God."
> >
> > "The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
> > pretending he is the meaning of life."
> >
> > "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
> > still according to my power," says the Lord.
> >
> > What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
> > order to explain the existence of existence.
> >
> > "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."
> >
> > "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
> > Â What a gift in a fallen world!"
> >
> > "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"
> >
> > "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
> > that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
> > the glory of God"
> >
> > "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
> > isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
> > road."
> >
> > "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
> > and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
> > punished; it is what you are left with."
> >
> > "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
> > birth it in a man."
> >
> > "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
> > self-righteousness."
> >
> > "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."
> >
> > "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
> > The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."
> >
> > "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."
> >
> > "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."
> >
> > "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"
> >
> > "There is no such thing as random!"
> >
> > "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
> >
> > "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
> > you know nothing."
> >
> > "You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."
> >
> > "No sinner is sinless in any way."
> >
> > "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."
> >
> > "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
> > a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."
> >
> > "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."
> >
> > "Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."
> >
> > "Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
> > exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
> > really are."
> >
> > "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
> You gotta feel sorry for Atheists...
>
> when they die, they ain't going ..nowhere.

just like you..

>
> Whereas all the religious people are going to Heaven.
>
>
> Church origaniztions make more money than Atheists orginations.
>
>
> Churches make more money than Apple and Microsoft put together!
>
>
> Maybe I should start selling tickets to Heaven to Atheists..I mean
> real tickets with boarding pass that you could hold in your hand and put
> it in your pocket.
> I take PayPal.
>
> If an atheist marries a christian girl, i'll give him 50% off..and a
> window seat.
>
> In God We Trust. All others pay PayPal.
>
>
>

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

On 15/05/2024 2:54 pm, Maximus wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>> You gotta feel sorry for Atheists...
>>
>> when they die, they ain't going ..nowhere.
>
> just like you..

Maximus just opens his mouth and says something in his monotone ignorance.

Atheists think life is ultimately purposeless and meaningless. It is all
for nothing in the atheist world, which is totally contrary to who we
are internally as human beings.

Our "spiritual state," for example, hope, faith, love, purpose, meaning,
and so on, screams at us in all we do, "There is more!!!"

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

AKA, it created itself.

Which is totally and utterly ignorant, devoid of intelligence, bullshit,
and completely scientifically impossible.

They are completely lost in their fantasy that everything just did it
itself.

Michael Christ

>
>>
>> Whereas all the religious people are going to Heaven.
>>
>>
>> Church origaniztions make more money than Atheists orginations.
>>
>>
>> Churches make more money than Apple and Microsoft put together!
>>
>>
>> Maybe I should start selling tickets to Heaven to Atheists..I mean
>> real tickets with boarding pass that you could hold in your hand and put
>> it in your pocket.
>> I take PayPal.
>>
>> If an atheist marries a christian girl, i'll give him 50% off..and a
>> window seat.
>>
>> In God We Trust. All others pay PayPal.
>>
>>
>>
>

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

Glad you are still alive Michael and that I might now discharge any
accountability for a propensity or inducement of self harming behavioural
consequences related to a realisation of reality -- life but not as you
know it...

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Michael%20Tin%20Man%20Subject%20Avoidance.pdf>

Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
> On 15/05/2024 2:54 pm, Maximus wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>> You gotta feel sorry for Atheists...
>>>
>>> when they die, they ain't going ..nowhere.
>>
>> just like you..
>
> Maximus just opens his mouth and says something in his monotone ignorance.
>
> Atheists think life is ultimately purposeless and meaningless. It is all
> for nothing in the atheist world, which is totally contrary to who we
> are internally as human beings.
>
> Our "spiritual state," for example, hope, faith, love, purpose, meaning,
> and so on, screams at us in all we do, "There is more!!!"
>
> "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."
>
> AKA, it created itself.
>
> Which is totally and utterly ignorant, devoid of intelligence, bullshit,
> and completely scientifically impossible.
>
> They are completely lost in their fantasy that everything just did it
> itself.
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> Whereas all the religious people are going to Heaven.
>>>
>>>
>>> Church origaniztions make more money than Atheists orginations.
>>>
>>>
>>> Churches make more money than Apple and Microsoft put together!
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe I should start selling tickets to Heaven to Atheists..I mean
>>> real tickets with boarding pass that you could hold in your hand and put
>>> it in your pocket.
>>> I take PayPal.
>>>
>>> If an atheist marries a christian girl, i'll give him 50% off..and a
>>> window seat.
>>>
>>> In God We Trust. All others pay PayPal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

--

Check out our SAVVY module prototype that facilitates a movable / resizable
DIALOG and complex dropdown MENU interface deploying the third party d3
library.
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On Wed, 15 May 2024 09:40:42 +1000, Michael Christ
<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
message-id <v20spq$ck11$7@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 14/05/2024 8:39 am, Attila wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 May 2024 14:14:51 -0700, "Andrew"
>> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <9pv0O.94411$muLb.48338@fx09.ams4> wrote:
>>
>>> "Attila" wrote in message news:0or34jd8f3k6k660fe82jv6qjbq3prds64@4ax.com...
>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>> "Maximus"wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day,
>>>>>> it all comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"
>>>>>
>>>>> In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!
>>>>>
>>>>> Such as ~ DNA.
>>>>>
>>>>> DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result
>>>>> of-->an Intelligent causation. And -not- the result
>>>>> of a "'materialistic only'" process.
>>>>
>>>> Nonsense. You are posting a belief - there are
>>>> alternate explanations for everything in DNA
>>>
>>> The only reason your above is true, is because,
>>> one can explain anything.if they resort to the
>>> use of fantasy.
>>
>> Fantasy is unnecessary. Of course, to you fantasy is
>> anything that contradicts what you have decided is correct.
>>
>>>
>>> But for those who go by *real world science*
>>> DNA is evidence that our origin was the result
>>> of an Intelligent causation. And not the result of
>>> a "'materialistic only'' process.
>>
>> There is no evidence to support anything being not
>> materialistic only.
>
>You have no sole, Attila.

I have two, one on each foot.

>
>That is what happens when you bring yourself into being.
>
>
>
>
>Michael Christ

--

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

On Tue, 14 May 2024 21:20:38 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<66443816.695B@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>You gotta feel sorry for Atheists...
>
>when they die, they ain't going ..nowhere.
>
>Whereas all the religious people are going to Heaven.

There is no evidence either way but logic is against you.

>
>
>Church origaniztions make more money than Atheists orginations.
>
>
>Churches make more money than Apple and Microsoft put together!

And the IRS gets more than all of them.

>
>
>Maybe I should start selling tickets to Heaven to Atheists..I mean
>real tickets with boarding pass that you could hold in your hand and put
>it in your pocket.
>I take PayPal.
>
>If an atheist marries a christian girl, i'll give him 50% off..and a
>window seat.
>
>In God We Trust. All others pay PayPal.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Michael Christ wrote:
>>
>> On 14/05/2024 8:39 am, Attila wrote:
>> > On Mon, 13 May 2024 14:14:51 -0700, "Andrew"
>> > <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> > <9pv0O.94411$muLb.48338@fx09.ams4> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Attila" wrote in message news:0or34jd8f3k6k660fe82jv6qjbq3prds64@4ax.com...
>> >>> "Andrew" wrote:
>> >>>> "Maximus"wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day,
>> >>>>> it all comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Such as ~ DNA.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result
>> >>>> of-->an Intelligent causation. And -not- the result
>> >>>> of a "'materialistic only'" process.
>> >>>
>> >>> Nonsense. You are posting a belief - there are
>> >>> alternate explanations for everything in DNA
>> >>
>> >> The only reason your above is true, is because,
>> >> one can explain anything.if they resort to the
>> >> use of fantasy.
>> >
>> > Fantasy is unnecessary. Of course, to you fantasy is
>> > anything that contradicts what you have decided is correct.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> But for those who go by *real world science*
>> >> DNA is evidence that our origin was the result
>> >> of an Intelligent causation. And not the result of
>> >> a "'materialistic only'' process.
>> >
>> > There is no evidence to support anything being not
>> > materialistic only.
>>
>> You have no sole, Attila.
>>
>> That is what happens when you bring yourself into being.
>>
>> Michael Christ
>>
>> --
>> God is God in all His Being.
>>
>> Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
>> 10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
>> everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.
>>
>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>>
>> Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
>> YET sinners, Christ died for us.
>>
>> Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
>> is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
>>
>> Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
>> are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
>>
>> Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
>> hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
>>
>> "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."
>>
>> "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."
>>
>> "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
>> God. When you find Him you have found the author."
>>
>> "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
>> God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
>> sin is not what you do; it is what you are."
>>
>> "Compromise will condemn you."
>>
>> "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."
>>
>> "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."
>>
>> "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
>> know that?"
>>
>> "The way of truth is the testimony of life."
>>
>> "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
>> where God intends."
>>
>> "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
>>
>> "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
>> live, by faith."
>>
>> "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
>>
>> "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
>> ahead."
>>
>> "You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."
>>
>> "Priority is everything."
>>
>> "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."
>>
>> "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
>> it or to place it where it truly belongs."
>>
>> "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."
>>
>> "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
>> an ignorant straw man."
>>
>> "Wait, rest, be still, and know."
>>
>> "No man can wash his own hands!!!"
>>
>> "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
>> and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
>>
>> The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
>> obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"
>>
>> "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."
>>
>> "Man is not the centre of being."
>>
>> "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."
>>
>> "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."
>>
>> "Man has no greater idol than his own will."
>>
>> "Where is God hiding? He isn't."
>>
>> "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."
>>
>> "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
>> willingness to believe."
>>
>> "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
>> and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."
>>
>> "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
>> full of hope."
>>
>> "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
>> through it so that a sinner could play God."
>>
>> "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."
>>
>> "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
>> is the love of God."
>>
>> "The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
>> pretending he is the meaning of life."
>>
>> "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
>> still according to my power," says the Lord.
>>
>> What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
>> order to explain the existence of existence.
>>
>> "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."
>>
>> "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
>> Â What a gift in a fallen world!"
>>
>> "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"
>>
>> "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
>> that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
>> the glory of God"
>>
>> "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
>> isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
>> road."
>>
>> "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
>> and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
>> punished; it is what you are left with."
>>
>> "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
>> birth it in a man."
>>
>> "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
>> self-righteousness."
>>
>> "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."
>>
>> "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
>> The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."
>>
>> "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."
>>
>> "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."
>>
>> "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"
>>
>> "There is no such thing as random!"
>>
>> "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
>>
>> "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
>> you know nothing."
>>
>> "You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."
>>
>> "No sinner is sinless in any way."
>>
>> "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."
>>
>> "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
>> a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."
>>
>> "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."
>>
>> "Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."
>>
>> "Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
>> exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
>> really are."
>>
>> "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

On Tue, 14 May 2024 21:42:27 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<66443D33.7654@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>I don't know too much about Atheism...but is there a song yous sing in
>an atheist church??? What's the title?
>wat are the lyrics?

Why do you think atheists have a place to not worship?

>
>
>Imagine there's no heaven
>It's easy if you tryyyyy
>No hell below us
>Above us only skyyyyyy
>
>Imagine there's no savior
>just reason and rhyme
>With knowledge our beacon
>We reach for the skyyyy
>
>We ain't going to heaven
>cause we got no tickets
>...
>
>
>The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> You gotta feel sorry for Atheists...
>>
>> when they die, they ain't going ..nowhere.
>>
>> Whereas all the religious people are going to Heaven.
>>
>> Church origaniztions make more money than Atheists orginations.
>>
>> Churches make more money than Apple and Microsoft put together!
>>
>> Maybe I should start selling tickets to Heaven to Atheists..I mean
>> real tickets with boarding pass that you could hold in your hand and put
>> it in your pocket.
>> I take PayPal.
>>
>> If an atheist marries a christian girl, i'll give him 50% off..and a
>> window seat.
>>
>> In God We Trust. All others pay PayPal.
>>
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>> >
>> > On 14/05/2024 8:39 am, Attila wrote:
>> > > On Mon, 13 May 2024 14:14:51 -0700, "Andrew"
>> > > <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> > > <9pv0O.94411$muLb.48338@fx09.ams4> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> "Attila" wrote in message news:0or34jd8f3k6k660fe82jv6qjbq3prds64@4ax.com...
>> > >>> "Andrew" wrote:
>> > >>>> "Maximus"wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> well I don't fuss over definitions. at the end of the day,
>> > >>>>> it all comes down to '"atheists don't believe in God"
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> In spite of *evidence* that tells them otherwise!
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Such as ~ DNA.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> DNA is evidence THAT our origin was the result
>> > >>>> of-->an Intelligent causation. And -not- the result
>> > >>>> of a "'materialistic only'" process.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Nonsense. You are posting a belief - there are
>> > >>> alternate explanations for everything in DNA
>> > >>
>> > >> The only reason your above is true, is because,
>> > >> one can explain anything.if they resort to the
>> > >> use of fantasy.
>> > >
>> > > Fantasy is unnecessary. Of course, to you fantasy is
>> > > anything that contradicts what you have decided is correct.
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> But for those who go by *real world science*
>> > >> DNA is evidence that our origin was the result
>> > >> of an Intelligent causation. And not the result of
>> > >> a "'materialistic only'' process.
>> > >
>> > > There is no evidence to support anything being not
>> > > materialistic only.
>> >
>> > You have no sole, Attila.
>> >
>> > That is what happens when you bring yourself into being.
>> >
>> > Michael Christ
>> >
>> > --
>> > God is God in all His Being.
>> >
>> > Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
>> > 10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
>> > everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.
>> >
>> > Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>> >
>> > Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
>> > YET sinners, Christ died for us.
>> >
>> > Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
>> > is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
>> >
>> > Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
>> > are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
>> >
>> > Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
>> > hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
>> >
>> > "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."
>> >
>> > "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."
>> >
>> > "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
>> > God. When you find Him you have found the author."
>> >
>> > "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
>> > God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
>> > sin is not what you do; it is what you are."
>> >
>> > "Compromise will condemn you."
>> >
>> > "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."
>> >
>> > "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."
>> >
>> > "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
>> > know that?"
>> >
>> > "The way of truth is the testimony of life."
>> >
>> > "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
>> > where God intends."
>> >
>> > "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
>> >
>> > "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
>> > live, by faith."
>> >
>> > "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
>> >
>> > "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
>> > ahead."
>> >
>> > "You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."
>> >
>> > "Priority is everything."
>> >
>> > "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."
>> >
>> > "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
>> > it or to place it where it truly belongs."
>> >
>> > "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."
>> >
>> > "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
>> > an ignorant straw man."
>> >
>> > "Wait, rest, be still, and know."
>> >
>> > "No man can wash his own hands!!!"
>> >
>> > "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
>> > and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
>> >
>> > The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
>> > obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"
>> >
>> > "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."
>> >
>> > "Man is not the centre of being."
>> >
>> > "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."
>> >
>> > "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."
>> >
>> > "Man has no greater idol than his own will."
>> >
>> > "Where is God hiding? He isn't."
>> >
>> > "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."
>> >
>> > "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
>> > willingness to believe."
>> >
>> > "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
>> > and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."
>> >
>> > "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
>> > full of hope."
>> >
>> > "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
>> > through it so that a sinner could play God."
>> >
>> > "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."
>> >
>> > "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
>> > is the love of God."
>> >
>> > "The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
>> > pretending he is the meaning of life."
>> >
>> > "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
>> > still according to my power," says the Lord.
>> >
>> > What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
>> > order to explain the existence of existence.
>> >
>> > "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."
>> >
>> > "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
>> > Â What a gift in a fallen world!"
>> >
>> > "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"
>> >
>> > "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
>> > that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
>> > the glory of God"
>> >
>> > "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
>> > isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
>> > road."
>> >
>> > "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
>> > and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
>> > punished; it is what you are left with."
>> >
>> > "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
>> > birth it in a man."
>> >
>> > "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
>> > self-righteousness."
>> >
>> > "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."
>> >
>> > "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
>> > The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."
>> >
>> > "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."
>> >
>> > "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."
>> >
>> > "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"
>> >
>> > "There is no such thing as random!"
>> >
>> > "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
>> >
>> > "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
>> > you know nothing."
>> >
>> > "You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."
>> >
>> > "No sinner is sinless in any way."
>> >
>> > "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."
>> >
>> > "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
>> > a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."
>> >
>> > "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."
>> >
>> > "Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."
>> >
>> > "Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
>> > exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
>> > really are."
>> >
>> > "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."
>>
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> and challenge the unchallengeable.

Attila <<prochoice@here.now> writes:

> On Tue, 14 May 2024 21:42:27 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <66443D33.7654@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>I don't know too much about Atheism...but is there a song yous sing in
>>an atheist church??? What's the title?
>>wat are the lyrics?
>
> Why do you think atheists have a place to not worship?

Because they do? Here is a map of them.

https://humanists.uk/community/local-humanism/