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Subject: Re: three types of awakening
From: David
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"David Dalton" wrote in message
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On Nov 9, 2018, David Dalton wrote
(in
article<0001HW.21955AFF0010834C700006DBF2CF@news.eternal-september.org>):

> I have written a few times before of my hope that I will come out of my
> low/wilderness years and achieve awakening/enlightenment, like the Buddha
> did
> at the end of his seven ascetic years. I have said that I expect this
> awakening/enlightenment to consist of sustained productive creativity and
> mental stability, allowing me to taper off my medication without
> experiencing
> adverse effects.
>
> I think I have briefly come out of the low years twice before, once one
> early
> evening when I was visiting Vancouver in September 2004, and once one New
> Year’s Eve a few years ago here in St. John’s. In both cases I
> experienced a feeling of luminous clarity, and it wasn’t similar to my
> waning crescent highs.
>
> I have three types of awakening so far:
> 1. my waning crescent highs (inspiration/call)
> 2. release from my waxing gibbous moon trials by full moon
> 3. the above-mentioned two brief incidents.
>
> But anyway, while medication has eased my way, it seems that it has
> delayed
> the final awakening/enlightenment since most past figures similar to me
> had
> only seven years of low years, a few had 14 years, and I have gone 22.78
> years so far. If an 11 year sunspot cycle variation holds, I might come
> out
> of the low years 11 years after the 14 years, so 2.22 more years, or 22
> years
> after the 7 years, or 6.22 more years. But I hope it will be sooner than
> 2.22
> more years.
>
> However, note that while my low years were quite bad in 1996 and 1997,
> these
> days they are not very low except in terms of creativity while I am on my
> current medication regimen of 1250 mg divalproex sodium and 7.5 mg of
> olanzapine nightly and am abstaining from alcohol 1--9 days before full
> moon
> and from marijuana during all of waxing moon, and am not blindly believing
> perineum click divination, though I still play at it.

As I noted in item 16 of the Key Features of My Cycles subpage of my
Salmon on the Thorns web page, at some times in the past I have felt
"buddha" belly circles (one smaller, one larger, not at same time, smaller
one lasted much longer).

Also in the past I have experienced belly pops of the smaller circle,
and have thought that that meant I was being tested to see if I
was a buddha by non-humans.

Late last night I experienced a number of these belly pops (usually
preceded by a perineum click last night, and I don’t remember
of that was the case in the earlier ones) again and divined
that this time I was being tested by humans in various spiritual
paths.

However the counter on my Salmon on the Thorns web page
did not increase in the last two days so I doubt there is
really any interest.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)

I post too large, in a way.

Subject: three types of awakening
From: David Dalton
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I have written a few times before of my hope that I will come out of my
low/wilderness years and achieve awakening/enlightenment, like the Buddha did
at the end of his seven ascetic years. I have said that I expect this
awakening/enlightenment to consist of sustained productive creativity and
mental stability, allowing me to taper off my medication without experiencing
adverse effects.

I think I have briefly come out of the low years twice before, once one early
evening when I was visiting Vancouver in September 2004, and once one New
Year’s Eve a few years ago here in St. John’s. In both cases I
experienced a feeling of luminous clarity, and it wasn’t similar to my
waning crescent highs.

I have three types of awakening so far:
1. my waning crescent highs (inspiration/call)
2. release from my waxing gibbous moon trials by full moon
3. the above-mentioned two brief incidents.

But anyway, while medication has eased my way, it seems that it has delayed
the final awakening/enlightenment since most past figures similar to me had
only seven years of low years, a few had 14 years, and I have gone 22.78
years so far. If an 11 year sunspot cycle variation holds, I might come out
of the low years 11 years after the 14 years, so 2.22 more years, or 22 years
after the 7 years, or 6.22 more years. But I hope it will be sooner than 2.22
more years.

However, note that while my low years were quite bad in 1996 and 1997, these
days they are not very low except in terms of creativity while I am on my
current medication regimen of 1250 mg divalproex sodium and 7.5 mg of
olanzapine nightly and am abstaining from alcohol 1--9 days before full moon
and from marijuana during all of waxing moon, and am not blindly believing
perineum click divination, though I still play at it.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“Don't get me wrong/If I come and go like fashion
I might be great tomorrow/But hopeless yesterday" (Chrissie Hynde)

Subject: Re: three types of awakening
From: David
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 07:40 UTC
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"David Dalton" wrote in message
news:0001HW.21955AFF0010834C700006DBF2CF@news.eternal-september.org...

I have written a few times before of my hope that I will come out of my
low/wilderness years and achieve awakening/enlightenment, like the Buddha
did
at the end of his seven ascetic years. I have said that I expect this
awakening/enlightenment to consist of sustained productive creativity and
mental stability, allowing me to taper off my medication without
experiencing
adverse effects.

I think I have briefly come out of the low years twice before, once one
early
evening when I was visiting Vancouver in September 2004, and once one New
Year’s Eve a few years ago here in St. John’s. In both cases I
experienced a feeling of luminous clarity, and it wasn’t similar to my
waning crescent highs.

I have three types of awakening so far:
1. my waning crescent highs (inspiration/call)
2. release from my waxing gibbous moon trials by full moon
3. the above-mentioned two brief incidents.

But anyway, while medication has eased my way, it seems that it has delayed
the final awakening/enlightenment since most past figures similar to me had
only seven years of low years, a few had 14 years, and I have gone 22.78
years so far. If an 11 year sunspot cycle variation holds, I might come out
of the low years 11 years after the 14 years, so 2.22 more years, or 22
years
after the 7 years, or 6.22 more years. But I hope it will be sooner than
2.22
more years.

However, note that while my low years were quite bad in 1996 and 1997, these
days they are not very low except in terms of creativity while I am on my
current medication regimen of 1250 mg divalproex sodium and 7.5 mg of
olanzapine nightly and am abstaining from alcohol 1--9 days before full moon
and from marijuana during all of waxing moon, and am not blindly believing
perineum click divination, though I still play at it.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“Don't get me wrong/If I come and go like fashion
I might be great tomorrow/But hopeless yesterday" (Chrissie Hynde)

I like to come and go.

Subject: Re: three types of awakening
From: David Dalton
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On Nov 9, 2018, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.21955AFF0010834C700006DBF2CF@news.eternal-september.org>):

> I have written a few times before of my hope that I will come out of my
> low/wilderness years and achieve awakening/enlightenment, like the Buddha did
> at the end of his seven ascetic years. I have said that I expect this
> awakening/enlightenment to consist of sustained productive creativity and
> mental stability, allowing me to taper off my medication without experiencing
> adverse effects.
>
> I think I have briefly come out of the low years twice before, once one early
> evening when I was visiting Vancouver in September 2004, and once one New
> Year’s Eve a few years ago here in St. John’s. In both cases I
> experienced a feeling of luminous clarity, and it wasn’t similar to my
> waning crescent highs.
>
> I have three types of awakening so far:
> 1. my waning crescent highs (inspiration/call)
> 2. release from my waxing gibbous moon trials by full moon
> 3. the above-mentioned two brief incidents.
>
> But anyway, while medication has eased my way, it seems that it has delayed
> the final awakening/enlightenment since most past figures similar to me had
> only seven years of low years, a few had 14 years, and I have gone 22.78
> years so far. If an 11 year sunspot cycle variation holds, I might come out
> of the low years 11 years after the 14 years, so 2.22 more years, or 22 years
> after the 7 years, or 6.22 more years. But I hope it will be sooner than 2.22
> more years.
>
> However, note that while my low years were quite bad in 1996 and 1997, these
> days they are not very low except in terms of creativity while I am on my
> current medication regimen of 1250 mg divalproex sodium and 7.5 mg of
> olanzapine nightly and am abstaining from alcohol 1--9 days before full moon
> and from marijuana during all of waxing moon, and am not blindly believing
> perineum click divination, though I still play at it.

As I noted in item 16 of the Key Features of My Cycles subpage of my
Salmon on the Thorns web page, at some times in the past I have felt
"buddha" belly circles (one smaller, one larger, not at same time, smaller
one lasted much longer).

Also in the past I have experienced belly pops of the smaller circle,
and have thought that that meant I was being tested to see if I
was a buddha by non-humans.

Late last night I experienced a number of these belly pops (usually
preceded by a perineum click last night, and I don’t remember
of that was the case in the earlier ones) again and divined
that this time I was being tested by humans in various spiritual
paths.

However the counter on my Salmon on the Thorns web page
did not increase in the last two days so I doubt there is
really any interest.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)

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