https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1hxlbhp/we_should_not_be_made_to_forget_about_lockdown/

We Should Not Be Made to Forget About Lockdown
Sensationalism and stupidity reshaped the world. We should remember.
Matt Whiteley
Jan 09, 2025

A friend of mine’s wife is a paediatric nurse who works in a ward that
is, like most NHS hospitals at the moment, completely overrun. She
happened to mention that the nurses refer to the current raft of sick
children as “lockdown babies,” in other words, those who were incubated
from accumulating immunity to germs because they were shut in their
houses for the best part of two years.

We’ve forgotten about that now, haven’t we? At the time, those who
objected to the idea of government’s rationing the public’s daily walks
or interaction with their friends, made the point that the danger of
such an act was the sacrifice of the future for the present, the payment
of huge and diffuse consequences in exchange for the capitulation to
sensationalism.

So it is not beholden to the media that were clamouring for lockdowns
and promulgating said sensationalism to now pay attention to the fact
that you can see the scars of lockdown almost everywhere in society,
from health and mental health to culture, politics, in our relationship
to technology, and to one another.

Even in the most absurd places, even in a generation’s relationship to
sex. Recently there has been outcry across media outlets at the
popularity of OnlyFans girls such as Bonnie Blue staging mass orgies
with “barely legal” young boys and Lily Phillip’s sleeping with 101 men
in a day and ending up being filmed in floods of tears because of the
emotional exhaustion.

When and why do you think these people and the many others they
represent started to say “f*ck it” and began doing this? Yeah, lockdown.
Lockdown when all social accountability was stifled, when the seemingly
endless, plan-less, indefinite state of lockdown felt like there was no
reason to think normality would ever return, when politicians were
talking about us accepting that this dystopian reality is the “new
normal,” selling sexual content to people you will never see for easy
money seems like an obvious and perfectly reasonable outcome. At the
other end is a generation of young men doing what young men are
obviously going to do when locked in their houses with nothing to do
except flick on their computer screens.

In fact we have not noticed the way in which the subtle features of
dystopia that lockdown induced have never really left us. Lockdown
convinced us that atomisation is somehow acceptable and survivable,
propelled us into Elon Musk’s world where social media is the new media,
it’s truth is the truth and our silos are where we shall remain.
Countless public figures have gone down the conspiracy theory or
political rabbit holes never to return, where the mildest suspicion
about whether coerced mass vaccination was a legitimate idea led
gradually to the unravelling of institutional trust altogether, and with
it not freedom from the tyranny of a controlled narrative but credulity
to any narrative selling the opposite.

Then there is the generation of children not properly socialised during
crucial periods — periods that we know if socialisation does not happen
there are lifelong effects. The generations of missed education, of
addiction to screens, lack of exposure to the world, of the collapsing
of social accountability.

Then there is the fact that the last four years in the UK have seen the
highest rates of alcohol related deaths ever recorded, that 2020 was the
first time in two decades when the rates of decline of smoking slowed
considerably, which continued throughout the pandemic. An illness that
affected mostly those with co-morbidities, many of them related to
lifestyle, saw health messaging that led to most people waiting it out
with a takeaway and a bottle of wine. What else would you do?

Then there is the warped sensationalism that justified lockdown in the
first place. The BBC reports today that because of the current scale of
Flu cases patients in A&E in Liverpool are facing up to 50 hour waits.
Two days. Which is to say that emergency departments are essentially not
operational. This is nothing short of a medical crisis, an absolute
catastrophe, a horrific, dire situation, a situation arguably worse than
the covid pandemic. In fact, the NHS has today declared the pressure to
be as bad as the “height of the pandemic.”

But it barely even breaks the front pages of the news. Why not? Why
shouldn’t the entire country be on crisis footing, shouldn’t we be
banning person to person contact to ease the burden and “flatten the
curve?” Ambulance waiting times, A&E times, woeful cancer treatment
times, all these things are actually costing lives, and we don’t care
because it can’t be translated into the same kind of sensationalism that
covid could during lockdown.

But besides rehashing old complaints and arguments about lockdowns, it
is more important to consider how it happened, why media and governments
became so simplistic minded and short sighted, and what it actually means.

Misinformation, Misinformation
If you cast your mind back to the murky, parallel universe days of the
pandemic, you would remember the obsession with the word misinformation.
Everyone from the then social media overlords, to the news outlets, to
governments made themselves concerned with the “spread of
misinformation,” probably expressed by the then prime minister of New
Zealand Jacinda Ardern announcing that the government “will continue to
be your single source of truth, unless you hear it from us, it is not
the truth.” With this came a million news stories from the BBC obsessed
with correcting “conspiracy theories” and “misinformation.”

Yet the irony is that the entire of the lockdown movement depended on
the public believing things that weren’t true, and on a perception of
the situation built on sensationalism and the opposite kind of
misinformation that the most part of the news was concerned with.

I remember the very first confirmed cases of covid in the UK. I remember
then it feeling like a science fiction movie, how the news reported
every case with a kind of looming terror. One imagined them strapped to
ventilators fighting for their lives, a belief confirmed by images
circulating on social media of people collapsing in China and being
dragged away screaming by men in hazmat suits.

Of course, looking back, this seems comical. Most of those early covid
“victims” were probably sitting in an isolation room reading a magazine
wondering when they could go home. As Jeremy Clarkson tweeted after
reports of him “battling” covid in 2021: “Dear the newspapers. I didn’t
“battle” Covid. I lay on my bed reading a book till it went away.” Yet
If you’d gone door to door in March 2020 as we were plunged into
lockdown and asked the public the average age of death of covid, most
people would have not said “80.” I’d guess they’d have said 40 or 50.

On a daily basis the BBC was filled with stories they’d found of young
healthy people being struck down. This reporting, at a time such as
lockdown when people were drip fed the news as their entire way of
trying to understand what the f*ck was going on, meant that a mistruth
was smuggled under the door. People simply believed for some time that
covid was catastrophically worse than it was.

Not to say it wasn’t serious enough, it was, and for some people it was
tragic. Healthy people really were struck down. But so is flu today,
right now, so are 50 hour waits in A&E, and if they BBC wanted to they
could find the same kinds of cases right now, because sadly that is
reality. The problem was that this reporting was filtered through a
newly created dynamic in which anyone not saying that covid was
basically winged ebola was a “conspiracy theorist” spreading
“misinformation.”

So you weren’t allowed to ask how the decision was made that the
response to a bad winter respiratory virus was meant to be the rationing
of daily dog walks, the interruption of education, the banning of social
contact, the ruin of businesses, the wrecking of mental health, in
short: the suffocation of the orientation points of human meaning and
connection.

Or indeed, where it came from. The fact that by March 2020 cases in
Wuhan seemed to be receding seemed to be justification enough that
copying the policy of a country that literally welded doors shut to keep
people in quarantine was somehow a morally legitimate idea for
democratic Western countries. No one ever pointed out that no
epidemiologist before 2020 had ever even heard of the idea of lockdown,
yet almost overnight they all appeared on out televisions as if they
were experts on it. ‘Pandemic’ and ‘lockdown’ became synonymous in the
news, when the BBC wrote about schools, for example, it wasn’t the
‘effect of lockdowns’ it was the ‘effect of the pandemic.’ Because all
pandemics mean lockdown now.

The irony, then, is that news and governments were content with this
“misinformation” because it served the agenda of compliance with
restrictions. By misinformation they meant anything not in line with
“covid-bad-restrictions-good” and resulting in obedience. Sadly, some
leaders actually liked it. There is no question that during the Canadian
truckers protest, when even struggling single parents who donated 10
dollars to the protest found their bank accounts frozen, that the absurd
abuse of power on the part of Trudeau was a corollary of the dynamic of
lockdown. Unless you hear it from us, it is not the truth.

Michael Ejercito wrote:

>https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1hxlbhp/we_should_not_be_made_to_forget_about_lockdown/
>
>We Should Not Be Made to Forget About Lockdown
>Sensationalism and stupidity reshaped the world. We should remember.
>Matt Whiteley
>Jan 09, 2025
>
>
>
>A friend of mine’s wife is a paediatric nurse who works in a ward that
>is, like most NHS hospitals at the moment, completely overrun. She
>happened to mention that the nurses refer to the current raft of sick
>children as “lockdown babies,” in other words, those who were incubated
>from accumulating immunity to germs because they were shut in their
>houses for the best part of two years.
>
>We’ve forgotten about that now, haven’t we? At the time, those who
>objected to the idea of government’s rationing the public’s daily walks
>or interaction with their friends, made the point that the danger of
>such an act was the sacrifice of the future for the present, the payment
>of huge and diffuse consequences in exchange for the capitulation to
>sensationalism.
>
>So it is not beholden to the media that were clamouring for lockdowns
>and promulgating said sensationalism to now pay attention to the fact
>that you can see the scars of lockdown almost everywhere in society,
>from health and mental health to culture, politics, in our relationship
>to technology, and to one another.
>
>Even in the most absurd places, even in a generation’s relationship to
>sex. Recently there has been outcry across media outlets at the
>popularity of OnlyFans girls such as Bonnie Blue staging mass orgies
>with “barely legal” young boys and Lily Phillip’s sleeping with 101 men
>in a day and ending up being filmed in floods of tears because of the
>emotional exhaustion.
>
>When and why do you think these people and the many others they
>represent started to say “f*ck it” and began doing this? Yeah, lockdown.
>Lockdown when all social accountability was stifled, when the seemingly
>endless, plan-less, indefinite state of lockdown felt like there was no
>reason to think normality would ever return, when politicians were
>talking about us accepting that this dystopian reality is the “new
>normal,” selling sexual content to people you will never see for easy
>money seems like an obvious and perfectly reasonable outcome. At the
>other end is a generation of young men doing what young men are
>obviously going to do when locked in their houses with nothing to do
>except flick on their computer screens.
>
>In fact we have not noticed the way in which the subtle features of
>dystopia that lockdown induced have never really left us. Lockdown
>convinced us that atomisation is somehow acceptable and survivable,
>propelled us into Elon Musk’s world where social media is the new media,
>it’s truth is the truth and our silos are where we shall remain.
>Countless public figures have gone down the conspiracy theory or
>political rabbit holes never to return, where the mildest suspicion
>about whether coerced mass vaccination was a legitimate idea led
>gradually to the unravelling of institutional trust altogether, and with
>it not freedom from the tyranny of a controlled narrative but credulity
>to any narrative selling the opposite.
>
>Then there is the generation of children not properly socialised during
>crucial periods?—?periods that we know if socialisation does not happen
>there are lifelong effects. The generations of missed education, of
>addiction to screens, lack of exposure to the world, of the collapsing
>of social accountability.
>
>Then there is the fact that the last four years in the UK have seen the
>highest rates of alcohol related deaths ever recorded, that 2020 was the
>first time in two decades when the rates of decline of smoking slowed
>considerably, which continued throughout the pandemic. An illness that
>affected mostly those with co-morbidities, many of them related to
>lifestyle, saw health messaging that led to most people waiting it out
>with a takeaway and a bottle of wine. What else would you do?
>
>Then there is the warped sensationalism that justified lockdown in the
>first place. The BBC reports today that because of the current scale of
>Flu cases patients in A&E in Liverpool are facing up to 50 hour waits.
>Two days. Which is to say that emergency departments are essentially not
>operational. This is nothing short of a medical crisis, an absolute
>catastrophe, a horrific, dire situation, a situation arguably worse than
>the covid pandemic. In fact, the NHS has today declared the pressure to
>be as bad as the “height of the pandemic.”
>
>But it barely even breaks the front pages of the news. Why not? Why
>shouldn’t the entire country be on crisis footing, shouldn’t we be
>banning person to person contact to ease the burden and “flatten the
>curve?” Ambulance waiting times, A&E times, woeful cancer treatment
>times, all these things are actually costing lives, and we don’t care
>because it can’t be translated into the same kind of sensationalism that
>covid could during lockdown.
>
>But besides rehashing old complaints and arguments about lockdowns, it
>is more important to consider how it happened, why media and governments
>became so simplistic minded and short sighted, and what it actually means.
>
>Misinformation, Misinformation
>If you cast your mind back to the murky, parallel universe days of the
>pandemic, you would remember the obsession with the word misinformation.
>Everyone from the then social media overlords, to the news outlets, to
>governments made themselves concerned with the “spread of
>misinformation,” probably expressed by the then prime minister of New
>Zealand Jacinda Ardern announcing that the government “will continue to
>be your single source of truth, unless you hear it from us, it is not
>the truth.” With this came a million news stories from the BBC obsessed
>with correcting “conspiracy theories” and “misinformation.”
>
>Yet the irony is that the entire of the lockdown movement depended on
>the public believing things that weren’t true, and on a perception of
>the situation built on sensationalism and the opposite kind of
>misinformation that the most part of the news was concerned with.
>
>I remember the very first confirmed cases of covid in the UK. I remember
>then it feeling like a science fiction movie, how the news reported
>every case with a kind of looming terror. One imagined them strapped to
>ventilators fighting for their lives, a belief confirmed by images
>circulating on social media of people collapsing in China and being
>dragged away screaming by men in hazmat suits.
>
>Of course, looking back, this seems comical. Most of those early covid
>“victims” were probably sitting in an isolation room reading a magazine
>wondering when they could go home. As Jeremy Clarkson tweeted after
>reports of him “battling” covid in 2021: “Dear the newspapers. I didn’t
>“battle” Covid. I lay on my bed reading a book till it went away.” Yet
>If you’d gone door to door in March 2020 as we were plunged into
>lockdown and asked the public the average age of death of covid, most
>people would have not said “80.” I’d guess they’d have said 40 or 50.
>
>On a daily basis the BBC was filled with stories they’d found of young
>healthy people being struck down. This reporting, at a time such as
>lockdown when people were drip fed the news as their entire way of
>trying to understand what the f*ck was going on, meant that a mistruth
>was smuggled under the door. People simply believed for some time that
>covid was catastrophically worse than it was.
>
>Not to say it wasn’t serious enough, it was, and for some people it was
>tragic. Healthy people really were struck down. But so is flu today,
>right now, so are 50 hour waits in A&E, and if they BBC wanted to they
>could find the same kinds of cases right now, because sadly that is
>reality. The problem was that this reporting was filtered through a
>newly created dynamic in which anyone not saying that covid was
>basically winged ebola was a “conspiracy theorist” spreading
>“misinformation.”
>
>So you weren’t allowed to ask how the decision was made that the
>response to a bad winter respiratory virus was meant to be the rationing
>of daily dog walks, the interruption of education, the banning of social
>contact, the ruin of businesses, the wrecking of mental health, in
>short: the suffocation of the orientation points of human meaning and
>connection.
>
>Or indeed, where it came from. The fact that by March 2020 cases in
>Wuhan seemed to be receding seemed to be justification enough that
>copying the policy of a country that literally welded doors shut to keep
>people in quarantine was somehow a morally legitimate idea for
>democratic Western countries. No one ever pointed out that no
>epidemiologist before 2020 had ever even heard of the idea of lockdown,
>yet almost overnight they all appeared on out televisions as if they
>were experts on it. ‘Pandemic’ and ‘lockdown’ became synonymous in the
>news, when the BBC wrote about schools, for example, it wasn’t the
>‘effect of lockdowns’ it was the ‘effect of the pandemic.’ Because all
>pandemics mean lockdown now.
>
>The irony, then, is that news and governments were content with this
>“misinformation” because it served the agenda of compliance with
>restrictions. By misinformation they meant anything not in line with
>“covid-bad-restrictions-good” and resulting in obedience. Sadly, some
>leaders actually liked it. There is no question that during the Canadian
>truckers protest, when even struggling single parents who donated 10
>dollars to the protest found their bank accounts frozen, that the absurd
>abuse of power on the part of Trudeau was a corollary of the dynamic of
>lockdown. Unless you hear it from us, it is not the truth.
>
>The snapping point for a lot of people was when this same dynamic was
>applied to vaccination. A six month old vaccine was virtually mandated,
>in some countries literally mandated, and anyone who observed that given
>that the FDA expects most vaccines to be tested for five years before
>they are considered safe, calling a six month old vaccine “safe and
>thoroughly tested” wasn’t just fast and loose with the truth but a
>transparent lie, was suddenly an “antivaxxer.” It’s unsurprising then
>how many people were flung down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. If
>people are popping up on social media telling you the government is
>lying to you, when the government is literally lying to you, why not
>believe them?
>
>If you are Elon Musk, you now believe free speech on social media is the
>solution. His catchphrase has become “you are the media now,” a
>representation of the belief that X provides an unfiltered access to
>facts and a freedom from the tyranny of the mainstream media narrative.
>
>The problem though is that social media was half the cause in the first
>place. Social media algorithms siloed people into entrenched and
>absolute positions and ran events through the inevitable catastrophising
>of the attention economy. Consider, for example, how every time anything
>to do with Russia and Ukraine is in the news, immediately “nuclear” and
>“world war three” start trending. In a time where clarity instead of
>sensationalism is what is needed to make sense of a situation, social
>media projects the maddest and the worst of a situation: it is
>absolutely useless. It was social media that in part created the bough
>wave of mad sensationalism that made lockdown possible in the first
>place; the images of hazmat suits and screaming covid patients were
>around the world before the facts about covid had got their pants on and
>made it out of Wuhan.
>
>Maybe I’m pessimistic, but I actually don’t think we can recover from
>it. I think the blown trust in establishment media is so damaging its
>consequences are too enormous to track, I think our new dependence on
>social media is terrible for the possibility of any decent political
>discourse, and I think almost every public crisis since has leant upon
>the same idiotic dynamics. The world is reshaping itself politically,
>culturally and technologically because of the effects of the maddest few
>years in a long time in our history.
>
>But we can begin to look at the causes of the madness, and we can bring
>ourselves into some fresh air. We can recognise that real human
>perspective is vital, that representing disagreement as an extreme to be
>shunned as conspiratorial and sinister is a disingenuous and appalling
>way to deal with people’s legitimate concerns. We can remember precisely
>what makes liberal democracies so precious and valuable, before they are
>sold down the river to populism or tyranny. We can have better dialogue.
>It is the strangest of times, and in many ways it still feels like we
>are wandering around in the dream world we were cast into in 2020. But
>we can wake up. We can be us again.

(Bonnie) 01/12/25 Again not a LoosePeeledChristianMemoryBigot ...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/Ai33hw5PINI/m/wytVpY68MwAJ

Instead be "woke" to the sin of racial prejudice:

https://tinyurl.com/JesusIsWoke (i.e. not a Nazi bigot) *and* risen!!!

HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
> Michael Ejercito wrote:
>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1hxlbhp/we_should_not_be_made_to_forget_about_lockdown/
>>
>> We Should Not Be Made to Forget About Lockdown
>> Sensationalism and stupidity reshaped the world. We should remember.
>> Matt Whiteley
>> Jan 09, 2025
>>
>>
>>
>> A friend of mine’s wife is a paediatric nurse who works in a ward that
>> is, like most NHS hospitals at the moment, completely overrun. She
>> happened to mention that the nurses refer to the current raft of sick
>> children as “lockdown babies,” in other words, those who were incubated
>>from accumulating immunity to germs because they were shut in their
>> houses for the best part of two years.
>>
>> We’ve forgotten about that now, haven’t we? At the time, those who
>> objected to the idea of government’s rationing the public’s daily walks
>> or interaction with their friends, made the point that the danger of
>> such an act was the sacrifice of the future for the present, the payment
>> of huge and diffuse consequences in exchange for the capitulation to
>> sensationalism.
>>
>> So it is not beholden to the media that were clamouring for lockdowns
>> and promulgating said sensationalism to now pay attention to the fact
>> that you can see the scars of lockdown almost everywhere in society,
>>from health and mental health to culture, politics, in our relationship
>> to technology, and to one another.
>>
>> Even in the most absurd places, even in a generation’s relationship to
>> sex. Recently there has been outcry across media outlets at the
>> popularity of OnlyFans girls such as Bonnie Blue staging mass orgies
>> with “barely legal” young boys and Lily Phillip’s sleeping with 101 men
>> in a day and ending up being filmed in floods of tears because of the
>> emotional exhaustion.
>>
>> When and why do you think these people and the many others they
>> represent started to say “f*ck it” and began doing this? Yeah, lockdown.
>> Lockdown when all social accountability was stifled, when the seemingly
>> endless, plan-less, indefinite state of lockdown felt like there was no
>> reason to think normality would ever return, when politicians were
>> talking about us accepting that this dystopian reality is the “new
>> normal,” selling sexual content to people you will never see for easy
>> money seems like an obvious and perfectly reasonable outcome. At the
>> other end is a generation of young men doing what young men are
>> obviously going to do when locked in their houses with nothing to do
>> except flick on their computer screens.
>>
>> In fact we have not noticed the way in which the subtle features of
>> dystopia that lockdown induced have never really left us. Lockdown
>> convinced us that atomisation is somehow acceptable and survivable,
>> propelled us into Elon Musk’s world where social media is the new media,
>> it’s truth is the truth and our silos are where we shall remain.
>> Countless public figures have gone down the conspiracy theory or
>> political rabbit holes never to return, where the mildest suspicion
>> about whether coerced mass vaccination was a legitimate idea led
>> gradually to the unravelling of institutional trust altogether, and with
>> it not freedom from the tyranny of a controlled narrative but credulity
>> to any narrative selling the opposite.
>>
>> Then there is the generation of children not properly socialised during
>> crucial periods?—?periods that we know if socialisation does not happen
>> there are lifelong effects. The generations of missed education, of
>> addiction to screens, lack of exposure to the world, of the collapsing
>> of social accountability.
>>
>> Then there is the fact that the last four years in the UK have seen the
>> highest rates of alcohol related deaths ever recorded, that 2020 was the
>> first time in two decades when the rates of decline of smoking slowed
>> considerably, which continued throughout the pandemic. An illness that
>> affected mostly those with co-morbidities, many of them related to
>> lifestyle, saw health messaging that led to most people waiting it out
>> with a takeaway and a bottle of wine. What else would you do?
>>
>> Then there is the warped sensationalism that justified lockdown in the
>> first place. The BBC reports today that because of the current scale of
>> Flu cases patients in A&E in Liverpool are facing up to 50 hour waits.
>> Two days. Which is to say that emergency departments are essentially not
>> operational. This is nothing short of a medical crisis, an absolute
>> catastrophe, a horrific, dire situation, a situation arguably worse than
>> the covid pandemic. In fact, the NHS has today declared the pressure to
>> be as bad as the “height of the pandemic.”
>>
>> But it barely even breaks the front pages of the news. Why not? Why
>> shouldn’t the entire country be on crisis footing, shouldn’t we be
>> banning person to person contact to ease the burden and “flatten the
>> curve?” Ambulance waiting times, A&E times, woeful cancer treatment
>> times, all these things are actually costing lives, and we don’t care
>> because it can’t be translated into the same kind of sensationalism that
>> covid could during lockdown.
>>
>> But besides rehashing old complaints and arguments about lockdowns, it
>> is more important to consider how it happened, why media and governments
>> became so simplistic minded and short sighted, and what it actually means.
>>
>> Misinformation, Misinformation
>> If you cast your mind back to the murky, parallel universe days of the
>> pandemic, you would remember the obsession with the word misinformation.
>> Everyone from the then social media overlords, to the news outlets, to
>> governments made themselves concerned with the “spread of
>> misinformation,” probably expressed by the then prime minister of New
>> Zealand Jacinda Ardern announcing that the government “will continue to
>> be your single source of truth, unless you hear it from us, it is not
>> the truth.” With this came a million news stories from the BBC obsessed
>> with correcting “conspiracy theories” and “misinformation.”
>>
>> Yet the irony is that the entire of the lockdown movement depended on
>> the public believing things that weren’t true, and on a perception of
>> the situation built on sensationalism and the opposite kind of
>> misinformation that the most part of the news was concerned with.
>>
>> I remember the very first confirmed cases of covid in the UK. I remember
>> then it feeling like a science fiction movie, how the news reported
>> every case with a kind of looming terror. One imagined them strapped to
>> ventilators fighting for their lives, a belief confirmed by images
>> circulating on social media of people collapsing in China and being
>> dragged away screaming by men in hazmat suits.
>>
>> Of course, looking back, this seems comical. Most of those early covid
>> “victims” were probably sitting in an isolation room reading a magazine
>> wondering when they could go home. As Jeremy Clarkson tweeted after
>> reports of him “battling” covid in 2021: “Dear the newspapers. I didn’t
>> “battle” Covid. I lay on my bed reading a book till it went away.” Yet
>> If you’d gone door to door in March 2020 as we were plunged into
>> lockdown and asked the public the average age of death of covid, most
>> people would have not said “80.” I’d guess they’d have said 40 or 50.
>>
>> On a daily basis the BBC was filled with stories they’d found of young
>> healthy people being struck down. This reporting, at a time such as
>> lockdown when people were drip fed the news as their entire way of
>> trying to understand what the f*ck was going on, meant that a mistruth
>> was smuggled under the door. People simply believed for some time that
>> covid was catastrophically worse than it was.
>>
>> Not to say it wasn’t serious enough, it was, and for some people it was
>> tragic. Healthy people really were struck down. But so is flu today,
>> right now, so are 50 hour waits in A&E, and if they BBC wanted to they
>> could find the same kinds of cases right now, because sadly that is
>> reality. The problem was that this reporting was filtered through a
>> newly created dynamic in which anyone not saying that covid was
>> basically winged ebola was a “conspiracy theorist” spreading
>> “misinformation.”
>>
>> So you weren’t allowed to ask how the decision was made that the
>> response to a bad winter respiratory virus was meant to be the rationing
>> of daily dog walks, the interruption of education, the banning of social
>> contact, the ruin of businesses, the wrecking of mental health, in
>> short: the suffocation of the orientation points of human meaning and
>> connection.
>>
>> Or indeed, where it came from. The fact that by March 2020 cases in
>> Wuhan seemed to be receding seemed to be justification enough that
>> copying the policy of a country that literally welded doors shut to keep
>> people in quarantine was somehow a morally legitimate idea for
>> democratic Western countries. No one ever pointed out that no
>> epidemiologist before 2020 had ever even heard of the idea of lockdown,
>> yet almost overnight they all appeared on out televisions as if they
>> were experts on it. ‘Pandemic’ and ‘lockdown’ became synonymous in the
>> news, when the BBC wrote about schools, for example, it wasn’t the
>> ‘effect of lockdowns’ it was the ‘effect of the pandemic.’ Because all
>> pandemics mean lockdown now.
>>
>> The irony, then, is that news and governments were content with this
>> “misinformation” because it served the agenda of compliance with
>> restrictions. By misinformation they meant anything not in line with
>> “covid-bad-restrictions-good” and resulting in obedience. Sadly, some
>> leaders actually liked it. There is no question that during the Canadian
>> truckers protest, when even struggling single parents who donated 10
>> dollars to the protest found their bank accounts frozen, that the absurd
>> abuse of power on the part of Trudeau was a corollary of the dynamic of
>> lockdown. Unless you hear it from us, it is not the truth.
>>
>> The snapping point for a lot of people was when this same dynamic was
>> applied to vaccination. A six month old vaccine was virtually mandated,
>> in some countries literally mandated, and anyone who observed that given
>> that the FDA expects most vaccines to be tested for five years before
>> they are considered safe, calling a six month old vaccine “safe and
>> thoroughly tested” wasn’t just fast and loose with the truth but a
>> transparent lie, was suddenly an “antivaxxer.” It’s unsurprising then
>> how many people were flung down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. If
>> people are popping up on social media telling you the government is
>> lying to you, when the government is literally lying to you, why not
>> believe them?
>>
>> If you are Elon Musk, you now believe free speech on social media is the
>> solution. His catchphrase has become “you are the media now,” a
>> representation of the belief that X provides an unfiltered access to
>> facts and a freedom from the tyranny of the mainstream media narrative.
>>
>> The problem though is that social media was half the cause in the first
>> place. Social media algorithms siloed people into entrenched and
>> absolute positions and ran events through the inevitable catastrophising
>> of the attention economy. Consider, for example, how every time anything
>> to do with Russia and Ukraine is in the news, immediately “nuclear” and
>> “world war three” start trending. In a time where clarity instead of
>> sensationalism is what is needed to make sense of a situation, social
>> media projects the maddest and the worst of a situation: it is
>> absolutely useless. It was social media that in part created the bough
>> wave of mad sensationalism that made lockdown possible in the first
>> place; the images of hazmat suits and screaming covid patients were
>> around the world before the facts about covid had got their pants on and
>> made it out of Wuhan.
>>
>> Maybe I’m pessimistic, but I actually don’t think we can recover from
>> it. I think the blown trust in establishment media is so damaging its
>> consequences are too enormous to track, I think our new dependence on
>> social media is terrible for the possibility of any decent political
>> discourse, and I think almost every public crisis since has leant upon
>> the same idiotic dynamics. The world is reshaping itself politically,
>> culturally and technologically because of the effects of the maddest few
>> years in a long time in our history.
>>
>> But we can begin to look at the causes of the madness, and we can bring
>> ourselves into some fresh air. We can recognise that real human
>> perspective is vital, that representing disagreement as an extreme to be
>> shunned as conspiratorial and sinister is a disingenuous and appalling
>> way to deal with people’s legitimate concerns. We can remember precisely
>> what makes liberal democracies so precious and valuable, before they are
>> sold down the river to populism or tyranny. We can have better dialogue.
>> It is the strangest of times, and in many ways it still feels like we
>> are wandering around in the dream world we were cast into in 2020. But
>> we can wake up. We can be us again.
>
> In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
> GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
> secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
> us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
> pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
> 100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
> appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).
>
> Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
> COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
> rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
> moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
> contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
> "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
> self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
> Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
> scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
> Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
> combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
> that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
> longer effective.
>
> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
> So how are you ?
>
I am wonderfully hungry!

Michael Ejercito wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Michael Ejercito wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1hxlbhp/we_should_not_be_made_to_forget_about_lockdown/
>>>
>>> We Should Not Be Made to Forget About Lockdown
>>> Sensationalism and stupidity reshaped the world. We should remember.
>>> Matt Whiteley
>>> Jan 09, 2025
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A friend of mine’s wife is a paediatric nurse who works in a ward that
>>> is, like most NHS hospitals at the moment, completely overrun. She
>>> happened to mention that the nurses refer to the current raft of sick
>>> children as “lockdown babies,” in other words, those who were incubated
>>>from accumulating immunity to germs because they were shut in their
>>> houses for the best part of two years.
>>>
>>> We’ve forgotten about that now, haven’t we? At the time, those who
>>> objected to the idea of government’s rationing the public’s daily walks
>>> or interaction with their friends, made the point that the danger of
>>> such an act was the sacrifice of the future for the present, the payment
>>> of huge and diffuse consequences in exchange for the capitulation to
>>> sensationalism.
>>>
>>> So it is not beholden to the media that were clamouring for lockdowns
>>> and promulgating said sensationalism to now pay attention to the fact
>>> that you can see the scars of lockdown almost everywhere in society,
>>>from health and mental health to culture, politics, in our relationship
>>> to technology, and to one another.
>>>
>>> Even in the most absurd places, even in a generation’s relationship to
>>> sex. Recently there has been outcry across media outlets at the
>>> popularity of OnlyFans girls such as Bonnie Blue staging mass orgies
>>> with “barely legal” young boys and Lily Phillip’s sleeping with 101 men
>>> in a day and ending up being filmed in floods of tears because of the
>>> emotional exhaustion.
>>>
>>> When and why do you think these people and the many others they
>>> represent started to say “f*ck it” and began doing this? Yeah, lockdown.
>>> Lockdown when all social accountability was stifled, when the seemingly
>>> endless, plan-less, indefinite state of lockdown felt like there was no
>>> reason to think normality would ever return, when politicians were
>>> talking about us accepting that this dystopian reality is the “new
>>> normal,” selling sexual content to people you will never see for easy
>>> money seems like an obvious and perfectly reasonable outcome. At the
>>> other end is a generation of young men doing what young men are
>>> obviously going to do when locked in their houses with nothing to do
>>> except flick on their computer screens.
>>>
>>> In fact we have not noticed the way in which the subtle features of
>>> dystopia that lockdown induced have never really left us. Lockdown
>>> convinced us that atomisation is somehow acceptable and survivable,
>>> propelled us into Elon Musk’s world where social media is the new media,
>>> it’s truth is the truth and our silos are where we shall remain.
>>> Countless public figures have gone down the conspiracy theory or
>>> political rabbit holes never to return, where the mildest suspicion
>>> about whether coerced mass vaccination was a legitimate idea led
>>> gradually to the unravelling of institutional trust altogether, and with
>>> it not freedom from the tyranny of a controlled narrative but credulity
>>> to any narrative selling the opposite.
>>>
>>> Then there is the generation of children not properly socialised during
>>> crucial periods?—?periods that we know if socialisation does not happen
>>> there are lifelong effects. The generations of missed education, of
>>> addiction to screens, lack of exposure to the world, of the collapsing
>>> of social accountability.
>>>
>>> Then there is the fact that the last four years in the UK have seen the
>>> highest rates of alcohol related deaths ever recorded, that 2020 was the
>>> first time in two decades when the rates of decline of smoking slowed
>>> considerably, which continued throughout the pandemic. An illness that
>>> affected mostly those with co-morbidities, many of them related to
>>> lifestyle, saw health messaging that led to most people waiting it out
>>> with a takeaway and a bottle of wine. What else would you do?
>>>
>>> Then there is the warped sensationalism that justified lockdown in the
>>> first place. The BBC reports today that because of the current scale of
>>> Flu cases patients in A&E in Liverpool are facing up to 50 hour waits.
>>> Two days. Which is to say that emergency departments are essentially not
>>> operational. This is nothing short of a medical crisis, an absolute
>>> catastrophe, a horrific, dire situation, a situation arguably worse than
>>> the covid pandemic. In fact, the NHS has today declared the pressure to
>>> be as bad as the “height of the pandemic.”
>>>
>>> But it barely even breaks the front pages of the news. Why not? Why
>>> shouldn’t the entire country be on crisis footing, shouldn’t we be
>>> banning person to person contact to ease the burden and “flatten the
>>> curve?” Ambulance waiting times, A&E times, woeful cancer treatment
>>> times, all these things are actually costing lives, and we don’t care
>>> because it can’t be translated into the same kind of sensationalism that
>>> covid could during lockdown.
>>>
>>> But besides rehashing old complaints and arguments about lockdowns, it
>>> is more important to consider how it happened, why media and governments
>>> became so simplistic minded and short sighted, and what it actually means.
>>>
>>> Misinformation, Misinformation
>>> If you cast your mind back to the murky, parallel universe days of the
>>> pandemic, you would remember the obsession with the word misinformation.
>>> Everyone from the then social media overlords, to the news outlets, to
>>> governments made themselves concerned with the “spread of
>>> misinformation,” probably expressed by the then prime minister of New
>>> Zealand Jacinda Ardern announcing that the government “will continue to
>>> be your single source of truth, unless you hear it from us, it is not
>>> the truth.” With this came a million news stories from the BBC obsessed
>>> with correcting “conspiracy theories” and “misinformation.”
>>>
>>> Yet the irony is that the entire of the lockdown movement depended on
>>> the public believing things that weren’t true, and on a perception of
>>> the situation built on sensationalism and the opposite kind of
>>> misinformation that the most part of the news was concerned with.
>>>
>>> I remember the very first confirmed cases of covid in the UK. I remember
>>> then it feeling like a science fiction movie, how the news reported
>>> every case with a kind of looming terror. One imagined them strapped to
>>> ventilators fighting for their lives, a belief confirmed by images
>>> circulating on social media of people collapsing in China and being
>>> dragged away screaming by men in hazmat suits.
>>>
>>> Of course, looking back, this seems comical. Most of those early covid
>>> “victims” were probably sitting in an isolation room reading a magazine
>>> wondering when they could go home. As Jeremy Clarkson tweeted after
>>> reports of him “battling” covid in 2021: “Dear the newspapers. I didn’t
>>> “battle” Covid. I lay on my bed reading a book till it went away.” Yet
>>> If you’d gone door to door in March 2020 as we were plunged into
>>> lockdown and asked the public the average age of death of covid, most
>>> people would have not said “80.” I’d guess they’d have said 40 or 50.
>>>
>>> On a daily basis the BBC was filled with stories they’d found of young
>>> healthy people being struck down. This reporting, at a time such as
>>> lockdown when people were drip fed the news as their entire way of
>>> trying to understand what the f*ck was going on, meant that a mistruth
>>> was smuggled under the door. People simply believed for some time that
>>> covid was catastrophically worse than it was.
>>>
>>> Not to say it wasn’t serious enough, it was, and for some people it was
>>> tragic. Healthy people really were struck down. But so is flu today,
>>> right now, so are 50 hour waits in A&E, and if they BBC wanted to they
>>> could find the same kinds of cases right now, because sadly that is
>>> reality. The problem was that this reporting was filtered through a
>>> newly created dynamic in which anyone not saying that covid was
>>> basically winged ebola was a “conspiracy theorist” spreading
>>> “misinformation.”
>>>
>>> So you weren’t allowed to ask how the decision was made that the
>>> response to a bad winter respiratory virus was meant to be the rationing
>>> of daily dog walks, the interruption of education, the banning of social
>>> contact, the ruin of businesses, the wrecking of mental health, in
>>> short: the suffocation of the orientation points of human meaning and
>>> connection.
>>>
>>> Or indeed, where it came from. The fact that by March 2020 cases in
>>> Wuhan seemed to be receding seemed to be justification enough that
>>> copying the policy of a country that literally welded doors shut to keep
>>> people in quarantine was somehow a morally legitimate idea for
>>> democratic Western countries. No one ever pointed out that no
>>> epidemiologist before 2020 had ever even heard of the idea of lockdown,
>>> yet almost overnight they all appeared on out televisions as if they
>>> were experts on it. ‘Pandemic’ and ‘lockdown’ became synonymous in the
>>> news, when the BBC wrote about schools, for example, it wasn’t the
>>> ‘effect of lockdowns’ it was the ‘effect of the pandemic.’ Because all
>>> pandemics mean lockdown now.
>>>
>>> The irony, then, is that news and governments were content with this
>>> “misinformation” because it served the agenda of compliance with
>>> restrictions. By misinformation they meant anything not in line with
>>> “covid-bad-restrictions-good” and resulting in obedience. Sadly, some
>>> leaders actually liked it. There is no question that during the Canadian
>>> truckers protest, when even struggling single parents who donated 10
>>> dollars to the protest found their bank accounts frozen, that the absurd
>>> abuse of power on the part of Trudeau was a corollary of the dynamic of
>>> lockdown. Unless you hear it from us, it is not the truth.
>>>
>>> The snapping point for a lot of people was when this same dynamic was
>>> applied to vaccination. A six month old vaccine was virtually mandated,
>>> in some countries literally mandated, and anyone who observed that given
>>> that the FDA expects most vaccines to be tested for five years before
>>> they are considered safe, calling a six month old vaccine “safe and
>>> thoroughly tested” wasn’t just fast and loose with the truth but a
>>> transparent lie, was suddenly an “antivaxxer.” It’s unsurprising then
>>> how many people were flung down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. If
>>> people are popping up on social media telling you the government is
>>> lying to you, when the government is literally lying to you, why not
>>> believe them?
>>>
>>> If you are Elon Musk, you now believe free speech on social media is the
>>> solution. His catchphrase has become “you are the media now,” a
>>> representation of the belief that X provides an unfiltered access to
>>> facts and a freedom from the tyranny of the mainstream media narrative.
>>>
>>> The problem though is that social media was half the cause in the first
>>> place. Social media algorithms siloed people into entrenched and
>>> absolute positions and ran events through the inevitable catastrophising
>>> of the attention economy. Consider, for example, how every time anything
>>> to do with Russia and Ukraine is in the news, immediately “nuclear” and
>>> “world war three” start trending. In a time where clarity instead of
>>> sensationalism is what is needed to make sense of a situation, social
>>> media projects the maddest and the worst of a situation: it is
>>> absolutely useless. It was social media that in part created the bough
>>> wave of mad sensationalism that made lockdown possible in the first
>>> place; the images of hazmat suits and screaming covid patients were
>>> around the world before the facts about covid had got their pants on and
>>> made it out of Wuhan.
>>>
>>> Maybe I’m pessimistic, but I actually don’t think we can recover from
>>> it. I think the blown trust in establishment media is so damaging its
>>> consequences are too enormous to track, I think our new dependence on
>>> social media is terrible for the possibility of any decent political
>>> discourse, and I think almost every public crisis since has leant upon
>>> the same idiotic dynamics. The world is reshaping itself politically,
>>> culturally and technologically because of the effects of the maddest few
>>> years in a long time in our history.
>>>
>>> But we can begin to look at the causes of the madness, and we can bring
>>> ourselves into some fresh air. We can recognise that real human
>>> perspective is vital, that representing disagreement as an extreme to be
>>> shunned as conspiratorial and sinister is a disingenuous and appalling
>>> way to deal with people’s legitimate concerns. We can remember precisely
>>> what makes liberal democracies so precious and valuable, before they are
>>> sold down the river to populism or tyranny. We can have better dialogue.
>>> It is the strangest of times, and in many ways it still feels like we
>>> are wandering around in the dream world we were cast into in 2020. But
>>> we can wake up. We can be us again.
>>
>> In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
>> GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
>> secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
>> us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
>> pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
>> 100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
>> appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).
>>
>> Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
>> COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
>> rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
>> moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
>> contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
>> "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
>> self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
>> Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
>> scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
>> Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
>> combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
>> that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
>> longer effective.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
>> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 07:08:56 -0800, Michael Ejercito
<MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:

>HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
>>
>> <FLUSH GOOK LUNACY>
>>
>> So how are you ?
>>
> I am wonderfully hungry!
>
>
> Michael

Ask him how Markea Blakely-Berry is doing?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/hungry-doctor-diet-kill-georgia-teenager/story?id=16661077

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJLojgoZwsw

<Bonnie> 01/13/25 Loose/KK again vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

https://narkive.com/GHNKXeiE.10

Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

"Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
ever more cursed by GOD."

Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
threads:

(1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

(2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

(3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

(4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
now;'"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

(5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

.... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are
http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

Laus DEO !

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

<begin trichotomy>

(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.

(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.

<end trichotomy>

Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

>Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

LIE.

The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
color of my face red for those who can see me.

>He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:
>
>'14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
would've been no reference to "now."

Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
Scripture.

Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
hunger.

It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
eat food "now."

No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
instead of spiritual.

All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
more than ever.

Laus DEO !

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

>Psalms
>81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
>open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

Laus DEO !

>Proverbs
>13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
>the wicked is in need.

Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).

>Joel
>2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
>the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
>people shall never be ashamed.

Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

Laus DEO ! !

>Psalms
>107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.

>Acts
>14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
>giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
>your hearts with food and gladness."

In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

+++

> someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

>> Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

>> John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing
>> status. He includes himself in that status.

John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

>> 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
>> not in us.
>>
>> 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
>> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is
>> not in us.

John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
cognitive deficits, is really worse.

Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.

Again, the LORD did strike dead http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:

http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

Again, this is done ...

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
(Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

Loose Cannon wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 07:08:56 -0800, Michael Ejercito
> <MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:
>
>> HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
>>>
>>> <FLUSH GOOK LUNACY>
>>>
>>> So how are you ?
>>>
>> I am wonderfully hungry!
>>
>>
>> Michael
>
> Ask him how Markea Blakely-Berry is doing?
>
>
> https://abcnews.go.com/US/hungry-doctor-diet-kill-georgia-teenager/story?id=16661077
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJLojgoZwsw
>
It is tragic.

She was not wonderfully hungry.

Try being wonderfully hungry.

Then you can be rapture ready!

Michael

(Bonnie) 01/13/25 Again praying w/ MichaelE here ...

https://narkive.com/jrP4wZA1.5