https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1g7m74h/vaccinating_care_home_residents_reduced_deaths/

Vaccinating care home residents reduced deaths, but the effect was small
– new study
Published: October 18, 2024 8:42am EDT
Authors
David Paton
Chair of Industrial Economics, Nottingham University Business School,
University of Nottingham

Sourafel Girma
Professor of Industrial Economics, Faculty of Social Sciences,
University of Nottingham

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David Paton is a member of HART (Health Advisory and Recovery Team).

Sourafel Girma does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive
funding from any company or organization that would benefit from this
article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their
academic appointment.

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Vaccinating older people probably did avert some deaths in 2021, but the
effects were small. And even those small effects on mortality seem to
have dissipated during the booster programme. That’s the conclusion of
our new study, published in the European Economic Review.

COVID-related deaths decreased significantly in most of Europe and the
US from the middle of 2021. Although this reduction coincided with the
rollout of COVID vaccines, it has proved surprisingly difficult to
identify the extent to which vaccination contributed to the drop in deaths.

Randomised controlled trials (the gold standard for testing new
treatments) suggest COVID vaccination can provide significant protection
against serious illness and death relative to unvaccinated people who
have not previously been infected with COVID. But there are reasons the
effect of vaccination on mortality may be lower when viewed outside of
trials.

Early in the programme, there were hopes that vaccination would also
prove highly effective in preventing the spread of COVID but it has
since become clear that vaccination provides only limited and short-term
protection against infection and transmission.

Don’t let yourself be misled. Understand issues with help from experts
It is also well established that a previous infection provides
protection both against reinfection and against serious illness and
death in the event of reinfection that is at least as effective as
vaccination. Having a previous infection significantly reduces the
likelihood of being vaccinated meaning the vaccinated population will
include a relatively high proportion of people without protection from
prior infection. So even if vaccination provides protection at an
individual level, we may still observe population-level mortality rates
that are similar for vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.

The effectiveness of vaccination programmes may also be limited by
people’s behaviour. For example, there is evidence that vaccinated
people who get infected are more likely to have mild symptoms and this
may cause them to take fewer precautions than others against spreading
infection. As a result, vaccination may sometimes be associated with
more rather than less transmission.

Taken together, even if vaccination reduces the risk on an individual
basis, it does not necessarily follow that it will reduce deaths at a
population level. Existing research reflects this ambiguity with some
research finding very significant effects of vaccination on death while
other findings conclude there was little or no effect at all.

Our new study attempts to improve our knowledge about the effect of
COVID vaccination programmes by estimating the effect of vaccination
take up on deaths in care homes. This is a particularly important group
to examine. Given that the vast majority of COVID-related deaths occur
in the elderly, any effect on deaths is highly likely to be seen in care
homes.

An ampoule of AstraZeneca vaccine with a syringe.
COVID vaccines reduced serious illness and deaths, but they did little
to stop infection and transmission. Marc Bruxelle /Alamy Stock Photo
Machine learning used to analyse the data
We examined deaths from COVID in care homes across nearly 150 local
authorities in England from the start of the vaccine rollout in December
2020 until after the second booster dose in summer 2022. We tested
whether higher rates of vaccination of staff and elderly residents led
to fewer deaths both in total and from COVID.

One feature of our research is the use of machine learning (a type of
artificial intelligence) to isolate the effect of vaccination from other
factors that may also have affected mortality including levels of prior
infection as well as demographic, economic and health differences among
local authorities.

Machine learning is particularly adept at separating out the effects of
a high number of potential explanatory variables, providing much better
evidence of when associations represent true causal relationships. In
contrast to some other research, we also use a measure of vaccination
that takes account of the fact that effectiveness wanes over time.

We found that higher vaccination rates of residents (but not of staff)
did indeed lead to fewer deaths, but the effect was relatively small.
For example, an increase in the resident vaccination take-up rate of 10%
in a local authority caused, on average, a reduction of 1% in the total
care home mortality rate. That is equivalent to about 22 fewer deaths
per week nationwide.

Of course, any reduction in deaths is welcome. But vaccination does not
appear to be the key factor in reducing care home deaths from COVID. We
also found that the reduction in deaths was restricted to the initial
vaccination rollout.

From September 2021, when the booster vaccination programme started in
England, higher vaccination rates of elderly residents do not seem to
have led to any reduction in deaths. Based on these results, vaccination
is unlikely to have been responsible for the sustained fall in
COVID-related deaths.

Why then did Europe and the US experience large reductions in COVID
deaths since 2021, even during times when infection rates have soared?

There are two explanations. The first is the growth of variants such as
omicron that, although highly infectious, are less deadly than variants
responsible for the early waves.

Second, is the rise in the cumulative number of people who gained
protection from having had previous infections.

These explanations are consistent with the experience of places such as
Hong Kong, New Zealand and Taiwan. All saw relatively low COVID
infections and deaths in 2020, meaning only limited levels of natural
immunity had been built up. All then experienced high mortality rates
during 2022, well after most people in those places had been vaccinated.

For example, the seven-day average mortality rate in Hong Kong reached
40 deaths per million in March 2022, a rate far above the highest peak
seen in the US during the whole pandemic despite cumulative vaccination
rates at that time being similar.

Even though vaccination probably reduced care home deaths by a small
amount in the early rollout period, there is little evidence that the
booster programme had any significant effect on COVID-related deaths.

On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 18:14:48 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:

>https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1g7m74h/vaccinating_care_home_residents_reduced_deaths/
>
>Vaccinating care home residents reduced deaths, but the effect was small
>– new study
>Published: October 18, 2024 8:42am EDT
>Authors
>David Paton
>Chair of Industrial Economics, Nottingham University Business School,
>University of Nottingham
>
>Sourafel Girma
>Professor of Industrial Economics, Faculty of Social Sciences,
>University of Nottingham
>
>Disclosure statement
>David Paton is a member of HART (Health Advisory and Recovery Team).
>
>Sourafel Girma does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive
>funding from any company or organization that would benefit from this
>article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their
>academic appointment.
>
>Partners
>University of Nottingham
>
>University of Nottingham provides funding as a founding partner of The
>Conversation UK.
>
>View all partners
>
>CC BY ND
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>Republish our articles for free, online or in print, under a Creative
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> Email
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> Print
>Vaccinating older people probably did avert some deaths in 2021, but the
>effects were small. And even those small effects on mortality seem to
>have dissipated during the booster programme. That’s the conclusion of
>our new study, published in the European Economic Review.
>
>COVID-related deaths decreased significantly in most of Europe and the
>US from the middle of 2021. Although this reduction coincided with the
>rollout of COVID vaccines, it has proved surprisingly difficult to
>identify the extent to which vaccination contributed to the drop in deaths.
>
>Randomised controlled trials (the gold standard for testing new
>treatments) suggest COVID vaccination can provide significant protection
>against serious illness and death relative to unvaccinated people who
>have not previously been infected with COVID. But there are reasons the
>effect of vaccination on mortality may be lower when viewed outside of
>trials.
>
>Early in the programme, there were hopes that vaccination would also
>prove highly effective in preventing the spread of COVID but it has
>since become clear that vaccination provides only limited and short-term
>protection against infection and transmission.
>
>Don’t let yourself be misled. Understand issues with help from experts
>It is also well established that a previous infection provides
>protection both against reinfection and against serious illness and
>death in the event of reinfection that is at least as effective as
>vaccination. Having a previous infection significantly reduces the
>likelihood of being vaccinated meaning the vaccinated population will
>include a relatively high proportion of people without protection from
>prior infection. So even if vaccination provides protection at an
>individual level, we may still observe population-level mortality rates
>that are similar for vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.
>
>The effectiveness of vaccination programmes may also be limited by
>people’s behaviour. For example, there is evidence that vaccinated
>people who get infected are more likely to have mild symptoms and this
>may cause them to take fewer precautions than others against spreading
>infection. As a result, vaccination may sometimes be associated with
>more rather than less transmission.
>
>Taken together, even if vaccination reduces the risk on an individual
>basis, it does not necessarily follow that it will reduce deaths at a
>population level. Existing research reflects this ambiguity with some
>research finding very significant effects of vaccination on death while
>other findings conclude there was little or no effect at all.
>
>Our new study attempts to improve our knowledge about the effect of
>COVID vaccination programmes by estimating the effect of vaccination
>take up on deaths in care homes. This is a particularly important group
>to examine. Given that the vast majority of COVID-related deaths occur
>in the elderly, any effect on deaths is highly likely to be seen in care
>homes.
>
>An ampoule of AstraZeneca vaccine with a syringe.
>COVID vaccines reduced serious illness and deaths, but they did little
>to stop infection and transmission. Marc Bruxelle /Alamy Stock Photo
>Machine learning used to analyse the data
>We examined deaths from COVID in care homes across nearly 150 local
>authorities in England from the start of the vaccine rollout in December
>2020 until after the second booster dose in summer 2022. We tested
>whether higher rates of vaccination of staff and elderly residents led
>to fewer deaths both in total and from COVID.
>
>One feature of our research is the use of machine learning (a type of
>artificial intelligence) to isolate the effect of vaccination from other
>factors that may also have affected mortality including levels of prior
>infection as well as demographic, economic and health differences among
>local authorities.
>
>Machine learning is particularly adept at separating out the effects of
>a high number of potential explanatory variables, providing much better
>evidence of when associations represent true causal relationships. In
>contrast to some other research, we also use a measure of vaccination
>that takes account of the fact that effectiveness wanes over time.
>
>We found that higher vaccination rates of residents (but not of staff)
>did indeed lead to fewer deaths, but the effect was relatively small.
>For example, an increase in the resident vaccination take-up rate of 10%
>in a local authority caused, on average, a reduction of 1% in the total
>care home mortality rate. That is equivalent to about 22 fewer deaths
>per week nationwide.
>
>Of course, any reduction in deaths is welcome. But vaccination does not
>appear to be the key factor in reducing care home deaths from COVID. We
>also found that the reduction in deaths was restricted to the initial
>vaccination rollout.
>
> From September 2021, when the booster vaccination programme started in
>England, higher vaccination rates of elderly residents do not seem to
>have led to any reduction in deaths. Based on these results, vaccination
>is unlikely to have been responsible for the sustained fall in
>COVID-related deaths.
>
>Why then did Europe and the US experience large reductions in COVID
>deaths since 2021, even during times when infection rates have soared?
>
>There are two explanations. The first is the growth of variants such as
>omicron that, although highly infectious, are less deadly than variants
>responsible for the early waves.
>
>Second, is the rise in the cumulative number of people who gained
>protection from having had previous infections.
>
>These explanations are consistent with the experience of places such as
>Hong Kong, New Zealand and Taiwan. All saw relatively low COVID
>infections and deaths in 2020, meaning only limited levels of natural
>immunity had been built up. All then experienced high mortality rates
>during 2022, well after most people in those places had been vaccinated.
>
>For example, the seven-day average mortality rate in Hong Kong reached
>40 deaths per million in March 2022, a rate far above the highest peak
>seen in the US during the whole pandemic despite cumulative vaccination
>rates at that time being similar.
>
>Even though vaccination probably reduced care home deaths by a small
>amount in the early rollout period, there is little evidence that the
>booster programme had any significant effect on COVID-related deaths.

In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
"convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
longer effective.

(UK) 10/20/24 Again, not a LoosePeeledQuackIdiot bigot ...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/Ai33hw5PINI/m/wytVpY68MwAJ

Instead be "woke" to the sin of racial prejudice:

https://tinyurl.com/JesusIsWoke (i.e. not a Nazi bigot) *and* risen!!!

HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 18:14:48 -0700, Michael Ejercito
> <MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:
>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1g7m74h/vaccinating_care_home_residents_reduced_deaths/
>>
>> Vaccinating care home residents reduced deaths, but the effect was small
>> – new study
>> Published: October 18, 2024 8:42am EDT
>> Authors
>> David Paton
>> Chair of Industrial Economics, Nottingham University Business School,
>> University of Nottingham
>>
>> Sourafel Girma
>> Professor of Industrial Economics, Faculty of Social Sciences,
>> University of Nottingham
>>
>> Disclosure statement
>> David Paton is a member of HART (Health Advisory and Recovery Team).
>>
>> Sourafel Girma does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive
>> funding from any company or organization that would benefit from this
>> article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their
>> academic appointment.
>>
>> Partners
>> University of Nottingham
>>
>> University of Nottingham provides funding as a founding partner of The
>> Conversation UK.
>>
>> View all partners
>>
>> CC BY ND
>> We believe in the free flow of information
>> Republish our articles for free, online or in print, under a Creative
>> Commons license.
>> Email
>> X (Twitter)
>> Facebook15
>> LinkedIn
>> Print
>> Vaccinating older people probably did avert some deaths in 2021, but the
>> effects were small. And even those small effects on mortality seem to
>> have dissipated during the booster programme. That’s the conclusion of
>> our new study, published in the European Economic Review.
>>
>> COVID-related deaths decreased significantly in most of Europe and the
>> US from the middle of 2021. Although this reduction coincided with the
>> rollout of COVID vaccines, it has proved surprisingly difficult to
>> identify the extent to which vaccination contributed to the drop in deaths.
>>
>> Randomised controlled trials (the gold standard for testing new
>> treatments) suggest COVID vaccination can provide significant protection
>> against serious illness and death relative to unvaccinated people who
>> have not previously been infected with COVID. But there are reasons the
>> effect of vaccination on mortality may be lower when viewed outside of
>> trials.
>>
>> Early in the programme, there were hopes that vaccination would also
>> prove highly effective in preventing the spread of COVID but it has
>> since become clear that vaccination provides only limited and short-term
>> protection against infection and transmission.
>>
>> Don’t let yourself be misled. Understand issues with help from experts
>> It is also well established that a previous infection provides
>> protection both against reinfection and against serious illness and
>> death in the event of reinfection that is at least as effective as
>> vaccination. Having a previous infection significantly reduces the
>> likelihood of being vaccinated meaning the vaccinated population will
>> include a relatively high proportion of people without protection from
>> prior infection. So even if vaccination provides protection at an
>> individual level, we may still observe population-level mortality rates
>> that are similar for vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.
>>
>> The effectiveness of vaccination programmes may also be limited by
>> people’s behaviour. For example, there is evidence that vaccinated
>> people who get infected are more likely to have mild symptoms and this
>> may cause them to take fewer precautions than others against spreading
>> infection. As a result, vaccination may sometimes be associated with
>> more rather than less transmission.
>>
>> Taken together, even if vaccination reduces the risk on an individual
>> basis, it does not necessarily follow that it will reduce deaths at a
>> population level. Existing research reflects this ambiguity with some
>> research finding very significant effects of vaccination on death while
>> other findings conclude there was little or no effect at all.
>>
>> Our new study attempts to improve our knowledge about the effect of
>> COVID vaccination programmes by estimating the effect of vaccination
>> take up on deaths in care homes. This is a particularly important group
>> to examine. Given that the vast majority of COVID-related deaths occur
>> in the elderly, any effect on deaths is highly likely to be seen in care
>> homes.
>>
>> An ampoule of AstraZeneca vaccine with a syringe.
>> COVID vaccines reduced serious illness and deaths, but they did little
>> to stop infection and transmission. Marc Bruxelle /Alamy Stock Photo
>> Machine learning used to analyse the data
>> We examined deaths from COVID in care homes across nearly 150 local
>> authorities in England from the start of the vaccine rollout in December
>> 2020 until after the second booster dose in summer 2022. We tested
>> whether higher rates of vaccination of staff and elderly residents led
>> to fewer deaths both in total and from COVID.
>>
>> One feature of our research is the use of machine learning (a type of
>> artificial intelligence) to isolate the effect of vaccination from other
>> factors that may also have affected mortality including levels of prior
>> infection as well as demographic, economic and health differences among
>> local authorities.
>>
>> Machine learning is particularly adept at separating out the effects of
>> a high number of potential explanatory variables, providing much better
>> evidence of when associations represent true causal relationships. In
>> contrast to some other research, we also use a measure of vaccination
>> that takes account of the fact that effectiveness wanes over time.
>>
>> We found that higher vaccination rates of residents (but not of staff)
>> did indeed lead to fewer deaths, but the effect was relatively small.
>> For example, an increase in the resident vaccination take-up rate of 10%
>> in a local authority caused, on average, a reduction of 1% in the total
>> care home mortality rate. That is equivalent to about 22 fewer deaths
>> per week nationwide.
>>
>> Of course, any reduction in deaths is welcome. But vaccination does not
>> appear to be the key factor in reducing care home deaths from COVID. We
>> also found that the reduction in deaths was restricted to the initial
>> vaccination rollout.
>>
>> From September 2021, when the booster vaccination programme started in
>> England, higher vaccination rates of elderly residents do not seem to
>> have led to any reduction in deaths. Based on these results, vaccination
>> is unlikely to have been responsible for the sustained fall in
>> COVID-related deaths.
>>
>> Why then did Europe and the US experience large reductions in COVID
>> deaths since 2021, even during times when infection rates have soared?
>>
>> There are two explanations. The first is the growth of variants such as
>> omicron that, although highly infectious, are less deadly than variants
>> responsible for the early waves.
>>
>> Second, is the rise in the cumulative number of people who gained
>> protection from having had previous infections.
>>
>> These explanations are consistent with the experience of places such as
>> Hong Kong, New Zealand and Taiwan. All saw relatively low COVID
>> infections and deaths in 2020, meaning only limited levels of natural
>> immunity had been built up. All then experienced high mortality rates
>> during 2022, well after most people in those places had been vaccinated.
>>
>> For example, the seven-day average mortality rate in Hong Kong reached
>> 40 deaths per million in March 2022, a rate far above the highest peak
>> seen in the US during the whole pandemic despite cumulative vaccination
>> rates at that time being similar.
>>
>> Even though vaccination probably reduced care home deaths by a small
>> amount in the early rollout period, there is little evidence that the
>> booster programme had any significant effect on COVID-related deaths.
>
> In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
> GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
> secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
> us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
> pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
> 100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
> appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).
>
> Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
> COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
> rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
> moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
> contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
> "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
> self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
> Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
> scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
> Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
> combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
> that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
> longer effective.
>
> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
> So how are you ?
>
I am wonderfully hungry!

On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:38:32 -0400, HeartDoc Andrew
<disciple@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 18:14:48 -0700, Michael Ejercito
><MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:
>
> <GOOK DRIVEL DELETED>
>
>Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
>https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
>) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

Is this how you and Ejercito feed your 'healthy appetite?

https://postimg.cc/mhpmTPQz

>
>So how are you ?

He's like you, a slant-eyed parasite.

<UK> 10/21/24 Loose/KK again vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

"Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
ever more cursed by GOD."

Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
threads:

(1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

(2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

(3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

(4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
now;'"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

(5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

.... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are
http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

Laus DEO !

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

<begin trichotomy>

(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.

(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.

<end trichotomy>

Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

>Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

LIE.

The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
color of my face red for those who can see me.

>He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:
>
>'14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
would've been no reference to "now."

Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
Scripture.

Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
hunger.

It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
eat food "now."

No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
instead of spiritual.

All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
more than ever.

Laus DEO !

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

>Psalms
>81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
>open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

Laus DEO !

>Proverbs
>13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
>the wicked is in need.

Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).

>Joel
>2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
>the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
>people shall never be ashamed.

Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

Laus DEO ! !

>Psalms
>107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.

>Acts
>14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
>giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
>your hearts with food and gladness."

In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

+++

> someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

>> Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

>> John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing
>> status. He includes himself in that status.

John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

>> 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
>> not in us.
>>
>> 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
>> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is
>> not in us.

John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
cognitive deficits, is really worse.

Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.

Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:

http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

Again, this is done ...

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
(Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

Michael Ejercito wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Michael Ejercito wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1g7m74h/vaccinating_care_home_residents_reduced_deaths/
>>>
>>> Vaccinating care home residents reduced deaths, but the effect was small
>>> – new study
>>> Published: October 18, 2024 8:42am EDT
>>> Authors
>>> David Paton
>>> Chair of Industrial Economics, Nottingham University Business School,
>>> University of Nottingham
>>>
>>> Sourafel Girma
>>> Professor of Industrial Economics, Faculty of Social Sciences,
>>> University of Nottingham
>>>
>>> Disclosure statement
>>> David Paton is a member of HART (Health Advisory and Recovery Team).
>>>
>>> Sourafel Girma does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive
>>> funding from any company or organization that would benefit from this
>>> article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their
>>> academic appointment.
>>>
>>> Partners
>>> University of Nottingham
>>>
>>> University of Nottingham provides funding as a founding partner of The
>>> Conversation UK.
>>>
>>> View all partners
>>>
>>> CC BY ND
>>> We believe in the free flow of information
>>> Republish our articles for free, online or in print, under a Creative
>>> Commons license.
>>> Email
>>> X (Twitter)
>>> Facebook15
>>> LinkedIn
>>> Print
>>> Vaccinating older people probably did avert some deaths in 2021, but the
>>> effects were small. And even those small effects on mortality seem to
>>> have dissipated during the booster programme. That’s the conclusion of
>>> our new study, published in the European Economic Review.
>>>
>>> COVID-related deaths decreased significantly in most of Europe and the
>>> US from the middle of 2021. Although this reduction coincided with the
>>> rollout of COVID vaccines, it has proved surprisingly difficult to
>>> identify the extent to which vaccination contributed to the drop in deaths.
>>>
>>> Randomised controlled trials (the gold standard for testing new
>>> treatments) suggest COVID vaccination can provide significant protection
>>> against serious illness and death relative to unvaccinated people who
>>> have not previously been infected with COVID. But there are reasons the
>>> effect of vaccination on mortality may be lower when viewed outside of
>>> trials.
>>>
>>> Early in the programme, there were hopes that vaccination would also
>>> prove highly effective in preventing the spread of COVID but it has
>>> since become clear that vaccination provides only limited and short-term
>>> protection against infection and transmission.
>>>
>>> Don’t let yourself be misled. Understand issues with help from experts
>>> It is also well established that a previous infection provides
>>> protection both against reinfection and against serious illness and
>>> death in the event of reinfection that is at least as effective as
>>> vaccination. Having a previous infection significantly reduces the
>>> likelihood of being vaccinated meaning the vaccinated population will
>>> include a relatively high proportion of people without protection from
>>> prior infection. So even if vaccination provides protection at an
>>> individual level, we may still observe population-level mortality rates
>>> that are similar for vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.
>>>
>>> The effectiveness of vaccination programmes may also be limited by
>>> people’s behaviour. For example, there is evidence that vaccinated
>>> people who get infected are more likely to have mild symptoms and this
>>> may cause them to take fewer precautions than others against spreading
>>> infection. As a result, vaccination may sometimes be associated with
>>> more rather than less transmission.
>>>
>>> Taken together, even if vaccination reduces the risk on an individual
>>> basis, it does not necessarily follow that it will reduce deaths at a
>>> population level. Existing research reflects this ambiguity with some
>>> research finding very significant effects of vaccination on death while
>>> other findings conclude there was little or no effect at all.
>>>
>>> Our new study attempts to improve our knowledge about the effect of
>>> COVID vaccination programmes by estimating the effect of vaccination
>>> take up on deaths in care homes. This is a particularly important group
>>> to examine. Given that the vast majority of COVID-related deaths occur
>>> in the elderly, any effect on deaths is highly likely to be seen in care
>>> homes.
>>>
>>> An ampoule of AstraZeneca vaccine with a syringe.
>>> COVID vaccines reduced serious illness and deaths, but they did little
>>> to stop infection and transmission. Marc Bruxelle /Alamy Stock Photo
>>> Machine learning used to analyse the data
>>> We examined deaths from COVID in care homes across nearly 150 local
>>> authorities in England from the start of the vaccine rollout in December
>>> 2020 until after the second booster dose in summer 2022. We tested
>>> whether higher rates of vaccination of staff and elderly residents led
>>> to fewer deaths both in total and from COVID.
>>>
>>> One feature of our research is the use of machine learning (a type of
>>> artificial intelligence) to isolate the effect of vaccination from other
>>> factors that may also have affected mortality including levels of prior
>>> infection as well as demographic, economic and health differences among
>>> local authorities.
>>>
>>> Machine learning is particularly adept at separating out the effects of
>>> a high number of potential explanatory variables, providing much better
>>> evidence of when associations represent true causal relationships. In
>>> contrast to some other research, we also use a measure of vaccination
>>> that takes account of the fact that effectiveness wanes over time.
>>>
>>> We found that higher vaccination rates of residents (but not of staff)
>>> did indeed lead to fewer deaths, but the effect was relatively small.
>>> For example, an increase in the resident vaccination take-up rate of 10%
>>> in a local authority caused, on average, a reduction of 1% in the total
>>> care home mortality rate. That is equivalent to about 22 fewer deaths
>>> per week nationwide.
>>>
>>> Of course, any reduction in deaths is welcome. But vaccination does not
>>> appear to be the key factor in reducing care home deaths from COVID. We
>>> also found that the reduction in deaths was restricted to the initial
>>> vaccination rollout.
>>>
>>> From September 2021, when the booster vaccination programme started in
>>> England, higher vaccination rates of elderly residents do not seem to
>>> have led to any reduction in deaths. Based on these results, vaccination
>>> is unlikely to have been responsible for the sustained fall in
>>> COVID-related deaths.
>>>
>>> Why then did Europe and the US experience large reductions in COVID
>>> deaths since 2021, even during times when infection rates have soared?
>>>
>>> There are two explanations. The first is the growth of variants such as
>>> omicron that, although highly infectious, are less deadly than variants
>>> responsible for the early waves.
>>>
>>> Second, is the rise in the cumulative number of people who gained
>>> protection from having had previous infections.
>>>
>>> These explanations are consistent with the experience of places such as
>>> Hong Kong, New Zealand and Taiwan. All saw relatively low COVID
>>> infections and deaths in 2020, meaning only limited levels of natural
>>> immunity had been built up. All then experienced high mortality rates
>>> during 2022, well after most people in those places had been vaccinated.
>>>
>>> For example, the seven-day average mortality rate in Hong Kong reached
>>> 40 deaths per million in March 2022, a rate far above the highest peak
>>> seen in the US during the whole pandemic despite cumulative vaccination
>>> rates at that time being similar.
>>>
>>> Even though vaccination probably reduced care home deaths by a small
>>> amount in the early rollout period, there is little evidence that the
>>> booster programme had any significant effect on COVID-related deaths.
>>
>> In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
>> GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
>> secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
>> us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
>> pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
>> 100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
>> appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).
>>
>> Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
>> COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
>> rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
>> moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
>> contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
>> "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
>> self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
>> Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
>> scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
>> Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
>> combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
>> that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
>> longer effective.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
>> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
> Michael Ejercito wrote:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Michael Ejercito wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1g7m74h/vaccinating_care_home_residents_reduced_deaths/
>>>>
>>>> Vaccinating care home residents reduced deaths, but the effect was small
>>>> – new study
>>>> Published: October 18, 2024 8:42am EDT
>>>> Authors
>>>> David Paton
>>>> Chair of Industrial Economics, Nottingham University Business School,
>>>> University of Nottingham
>>>>
>>>> Sourafel Girma
>>>> Professor of Industrial Economics, Faculty of Social Sciences,
>>>> University of Nottingham
>>>>
>>>> Disclosure statement
>>>> David Paton is a member of HART (Health Advisory and Recovery Team).
>>>>
>>>> Sourafel Girma does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive
>>>> funding from any company or organization that would benefit from this
>>>> article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their
>>>> academic appointment.
>>>>
>>>> Partners
>>>> University of Nottingham
>>>>
>>>> University of Nottingham provides funding as a founding partner of The
>>>> Conversation UK.
>>>>
>>>> View all partners
>>>>
>>>> CC BY ND
>>>> We believe in the free flow of information
>>>> Republish our articles for free, online or in print, under a Creative
>>>> Commons license.
>>>> Email
>>>> X (Twitter)
>>>> Facebook15
>>>> LinkedIn
>>>> Print
>>>> Vaccinating older people probably did avert some deaths in 2021, but the
>>>> effects were small. And even those small effects on mortality seem to
>>>> have dissipated during the booster programme. That’s the conclusion of
>>>> our new study, published in the European Economic Review.
>>>>
>>>> COVID-related deaths decreased significantly in most of Europe and the
>>>> US from the middle of 2021. Although this reduction coincided with the
>>>> rollout of COVID vaccines, it has proved surprisingly difficult to
>>>> identify the extent to which vaccination contributed to the drop in deaths.
>>>>
>>>> Randomised controlled trials (the gold standard for testing new
>>>> treatments) suggest COVID vaccination can provide significant protection
>>>> against serious illness and death relative to unvaccinated people who
>>>> have not previously been infected with COVID. But there are reasons the
>>>> effect of vaccination on mortality may be lower when viewed outside of
>>>> trials.
>>>>
>>>> Early in the programme, there were hopes that vaccination would also
>>>> prove highly effective in preventing the spread of COVID but it has
>>>> since become clear that vaccination provides only limited and short-term
>>>> protection against infection and transmission.
>>>>
>>>> Don’t let yourself be misled. Understand issues with help from experts
>>>> It is also well established that a previous infection provides
>>>> protection both against reinfection and against serious illness and
>>>> death in the event of reinfection that is at least as effective as
>>>> vaccination. Having a previous infection significantly reduces the
>>>> likelihood of being vaccinated meaning the vaccinated population will
>>>> include a relatively high proportion of people without protection from
>>>> prior infection. So even if vaccination provides protection at an
>>>> individual level, we may still observe population-level mortality rates
>>>> that are similar for vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.
>>>>
>>>> The effectiveness of vaccination programmes may also be limited by
>>>> people’s behaviour. For example, there is evidence that vaccinated
>>>> people who get infected are more likely to have mild symptoms and this
>>>> may cause them to take fewer precautions than others against spreading
>>>> infection. As a result, vaccination may sometimes be associated with
>>>> more rather than less transmission.
>>>>
>>>> Taken together, even if vaccination reduces the risk on an individual
>>>> basis, it does not necessarily follow that it will reduce deaths at a
>>>> population level. Existing research reflects this ambiguity with some
>>>> research finding very significant effects of vaccination on death while
>>>> other findings conclude there was little or no effect at all.
>>>>
>>>> Our new study attempts to improve our knowledge about the effect of
>>>> COVID vaccination programmes by estimating the effect of vaccination
>>>> take up on deaths in care homes. This is a particularly important group
>>>> to examine. Given that the vast majority of COVID-related deaths occur
>>>> in the elderly, any effect on deaths is highly likely to be seen in care
>>>> homes.
>>>>
>>>> An ampoule of AstraZeneca vaccine with a syringe.
>>>> COVID vaccines reduced serious illness and deaths, but they did little
>>>> to stop infection and transmission. Marc Bruxelle /Alamy Stock Photo
>>>> Machine learning used to analyse the data
>>>> We examined deaths from COVID in care homes across nearly 150 local
>>>> authorities in England from the start of the vaccine rollout in December
>>>> 2020 until after the second booster dose in summer 2022. We tested
>>>> whether higher rates of vaccination of staff and elderly residents led
>>>> to fewer deaths both in total and from COVID.
>>>>
>>>> One feature of our research is the use of machine learning (a type of
>>>> artificial intelligence) to isolate the effect of vaccination from other
>>>> factors that may also have affected mortality including levels of prior
>>>> infection as well as demographic, economic and health differences among
>>>> local authorities.
>>>>
>>>> Machine learning is particularly adept at separating out the effects of
>>>> a high number of potential explanatory variables, providing much better
>>>> evidence of when associations represent true causal relationships. In
>>>> contrast to some other research, we also use a measure of vaccination
>>>> that takes account of the fact that effectiveness wanes over time.
>>>>
>>>> We found that higher vaccination rates of residents (but not of staff)
>>>> did indeed lead to fewer deaths, but the effect was relatively small.
>>>> For example, an increase in the resident vaccination take-up rate of 10%
>>>> in a local authority caused, on average, a reduction of 1% in the total
>>>> care home mortality rate. That is equivalent to about 22 fewer deaths
>>>> per week nationwide.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, any reduction in deaths is welcome. But vaccination does not
>>>> appear to be the key factor in reducing care home deaths from COVID. We
>>>> also found that the reduction in deaths was restricted to the initial
>>>> vaccination rollout.
>>>>
>>>> From September 2021, when the booster vaccination programme started in
>>>> England, higher vaccination rates of elderly residents do not seem to
>>>> have led to any reduction in deaths. Based on these results, vaccination
>>>> is unlikely to have been responsible for the sustained fall in
>>>> COVID-related deaths.
>>>>
>>>> Why then did Europe and the US experience large reductions in COVID
>>>> deaths since 2021, even during times when infection rates have soared?
>>>>
>>>> There are two explanations. The first is the growth of variants such as
>>>> omicron that, although highly infectious, are less deadly than variants
>>>> responsible for the early waves.
>>>>
>>>> Second, is the rise in the cumulative number of people who gained
>>>> protection from having had previous infections.
>>>>
>>>> These explanations are consistent with the experience of places such as
>>>> Hong Kong, New Zealand and Taiwan. All saw relatively low COVID
>>>> infections and deaths in 2020, meaning only limited levels of natural
>>>> immunity had been built up. All then experienced high mortality rates
>>>> during 2022, well after most people in those places had been vaccinated.
>>>>
>>>> For example, the seven-day average mortality rate in Hong Kong reached
>>>> 40 deaths per million in March 2022, a rate far above the highest peak
>>>> seen in the US during the whole pandemic despite cumulative vaccination
>>>> rates at that time being similar.
>>>>
>>>> Even though vaccination probably reduced care home deaths by a small
>>>> amount in the early rollout period, there is little evidence that the
>>>> booster programme had any significant effect on COVID-related deaths.
>>>
>>> In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
>>> GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
>>> secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
>>> us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
>>> pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
>>> 100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
>>> appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
>>> COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
>>> rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
>>> moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
>>> contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
>>> "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
>>> self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
>>> Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
>>> scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
>>> Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
>>> combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
>>> that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
>>> longer effective.
>>>
>>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
>>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>>
>>> So how are you ?
>>
>> I am wonderfully hungry!
>
> While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
> 8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
> 17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
> COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
> Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
> Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
> always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
> including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
> all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
> the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
>
> Laus DEO !
>
Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.

Loose Cannon wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:38:32 -0400, HeartDoc Andrew
> <disciple@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 18:14:48 -0700, Michael Ejercito
>> <MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <GOOK DRIVEL DELETED>
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
>> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>
> Is this how you and Ejercito feed your 'healthy appetite?
>
> https://postimg.cc/mhpmTPQz
Does that picture arouse you?

>
>
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
>
> He's like you, a slant-eyed parasite.
>

There is nothing parasitic about us!

Nor is there anything wrong with slant eyes!

Michael

(UK) 10/21/24 Again praying w/ Michael here ...

https://narkive.com/6axWoF8v.7

<UK> 10/21/24 Loose/KK againX2 vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

"Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
ever more cursed by GOD."

Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
threads:

(1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

(2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

(3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

(4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
now;'"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

(5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

.... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are
http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

Laus DEO !

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

<begin trichotomy>

(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.

(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.

<end trichotomy>

Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

>Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

LIE.

The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
color of my face red for those who can see me.

>He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:
>
>'14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
would've been no reference to "now."

Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
Scripture.

Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
hunger.

It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
eat food "now."

No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
instead of spiritual.

All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
more than ever.

Laus DEO !

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

>Psalms
>81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
>open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

Laus DEO !

>Proverbs
>13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
>the wicked is in need.

Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).

>Joel
>2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
>the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
>people shall never be ashamed.

Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

Laus DEO ! !

>Psalms
>107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.

>Acts
>14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
>giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
>your hearts with food and gladness."

In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

+++

> someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

>> Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

>> John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing
>> status. He includes himself in that status.

John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

>> 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
>> not in us.
>>
>> 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
>> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is
>> not in us.

John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
cognitive deficits, is really worse.

Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.

Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:

http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

Again, this is done ...

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
(Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

Michael Ejercito wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Michael Ejercito wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Michael Ejercito wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1g7m74h/vaccinating_care_home_residents_reduced_deaths/
>>>>>
>>>>> Vaccinating care home residents reduced deaths, but the effect was small
>>>>> – new study
>>>>> Published: October 18, 2024 8:42am EDT
>>>>> Authors
>>>>> David Paton
>>>>> Chair of Industrial Economics, Nottingham University Business School,
>>>>> University of Nottingham
>>>>>
>>>>> Sourafel Girma
>>>>> Professor of Industrial Economics, Faculty of Social Sciences,
>>>>> University of Nottingham
>>>>>
>>>>> Disclosure statement
>>>>> David Paton is a member of HART (Health Advisory and Recovery Team).
>>>>>
>>>>> Sourafel Girma does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive
>>>>> funding from any company or organization that would benefit from this
>>>>> article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their
>>>>> academic appointment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Partners
>>>>> University of Nottingham
>>>>>
>>>>> University of Nottingham provides funding as a founding partner of The
>>>>> Conversation UK.
>>>>>
>>>>> View all partners
>>>>>
>>>>> CC BY ND
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>>>>> Republish our articles for free, online or in print, under a Creative
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>>>>> Print
>>>>> Vaccinating older people probably did avert some deaths in 2021, but the
>>>>> effects were small. And even those small effects on mortality seem to
>>>>> have dissipated during the booster programme. That’s the conclusion of
>>>>> our new study, published in the European Economic Review.
>>>>>
>>>>> COVID-related deaths decreased significantly in most of Europe and the
>>>>> US from the middle of 2021. Although this reduction coincided with the
>>>>> rollout of COVID vaccines, it has proved surprisingly difficult to
>>>>> identify the extent to which vaccination contributed to the drop in deaths.
>>>>>
>>>>> Randomised controlled trials (the gold standard for testing new
>>>>> treatments) suggest COVID vaccination can provide significant protection
>>>>> against serious illness and death relative to unvaccinated people who
>>>>> have not previously been infected with COVID. But there are reasons the
>>>>> effect of vaccination on mortality may be lower when viewed outside of
>>>>> trials.
>>>>>
>>>>> Early in the programme, there were hopes that vaccination would also
>>>>> prove highly effective in preventing the spread of COVID but it has
>>>>> since become clear that vaccination provides only limited and short-term
>>>>> protection against infection and transmission.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don’t let yourself be misled. Understand issues with help from experts
>>>>> It is also well established that a previous infection provides
>>>>> protection both against reinfection and against serious illness and
>>>>> death in the event of reinfection that is at least as effective as
>>>>> vaccination. Having a previous infection significantly reduces the
>>>>> likelihood of being vaccinated meaning the vaccinated population will
>>>>> include a relatively high proportion of people without protection from
>>>>> prior infection. So even if vaccination provides protection at an
>>>>> individual level, we may still observe population-level mortality rates
>>>>> that are similar for vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.
>>>>>
>>>>> The effectiveness of vaccination programmes may also be limited by
>>>>> people’s behaviour. For example, there is evidence that vaccinated
>>>>> people who get infected are more likely to have mild symptoms and this
>>>>> may cause them to take fewer precautions than others against spreading
>>>>> infection. As a result, vaccination may sometimes be associated with
>>>>> more rather than less transmission.
>>>>>
>>>>> Taken together, even if vaccination reduces the risk on an individual
>>>>> basis, it does not necessarily follow that it will reduce deaths at a
>>>>> population level. Existing research reflects this ambiguity with some
>>>>> research finding very significant effects of vaccination on death while
>>>>> other findings conclude there was little or no effect at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our new study attempts to improve our knowledge about the effect of
>>>>> COVID vaccination programmes by estimating the effect of vaccination
>>>>> take up on deaths in care homes. This is a particularly important group
>>>>> to examine. Given that the vast majority of COVID-related deaths occur
>>>>> in the elderly, any effect on deaths is highly likely to be seen in care
>>>>> homes.
>>>>>
>>>>> An ampoule of AstraZeneca vaccine with a syringe.
>>>>> COVID vaccines reduced serious illness and deaths, but they did little
>>>>> to stop infection and transmission. Marc Bruxelle /Alamy Stock Photo
>>>>> Machine learning used to analyse the data
>>>>> We examined deaths from COVID in care homes across nearly 150 local
>>>>> authorities in England from the start of the vaccine rollout in December
>>>>> 2020 until after the second booster dose in summer 2022. We tested
>>>>> whether higher rates of vaccination of staff and elderly residents led
>>>>> to fewer deaths both in total and from COVID.
>>>>>
>>>>> One feature of our research is the use of machine learning (a type of
>>>>> artificial intelligence) to isolate the effect of vaccination from other
>>>>> factors that may also have affected mortality including levels of prior
>>>>> infection as well as demographic, economic and health differences among
>>>>> local authorities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Machine learning is particularly adept at separating out the effects of
>>>>> a high number of potential explanatory variables, providing much better
>>>>> evidence of when associations represent true causal relationships. In
>>>>> contrast to some other research, we also use a measure of vaccination
>>>>> that takes account of the fact that effectiveness wanes over time.
>>>>>
>>>>> We found that higher vaccination rates of residents (but not of staff)
>>>>> did indeed lead to fewer deaths, but the effect was relatively small.
>>>>> For example, an increase in the resident vaccination take-up rate of 10%
>>>>> in a local authority caused, on average, a reduction of 1% in the total
>>>>> care home mortality rate. That is equivalent to about 22 fewer deaths
>>>>> per week nationwide.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, any reduction in deaths is welcome. But vaccination does not
>>>>> appear to be the key factor in reducing care home deaths from COVID. We
>>>>> also found that the reduction in deaths was restricted to the initial
>>>>> vaccination rollout.
>>>>>
>>>>> From September 2021, when the booster vaccination programme started in
>>>>> England, higher vaccination rates of elderly residents do not seem to
>>>>> have led to any reduction in deaths. Based on these results, vaccination
>>>>> is unlikely to have been responsible for the sustained fall in
>>>>> COVID-related deaths.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why then did Europe and the US experience large reductions in COVID
>>>>> deaths since 2021, even during times when infection rates have soared?
>>>>>
>>>>> There are two explanations. The first is the growth of variants such as
>>>>> omicron that, although highly infectious, are less deadly than variants
>>>>> responsible for the early waves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second, is the rise in the cumulative number of people who gained
>>>>> protection from having had previous infections.
>>>>>
>>>>> These explanations are consistent with the experience of places such as
>>>>> Hong Kong, New Zealand and Taiwan. All saw relatively low COVID
>>>>> infections and deaths in 2020, meaning only limited levels of natural
>>>>> immunity had been built up. All then experienced high mortality rates
>>>>> during 2022, well after most people in those places had been vaccinated.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, the seven-day average mortality rate in Hong Kong reached
>>>>> 40 deaths per million in March 2022, a rate far above the highest peak
>>>>> seen in the US during the whole pandemic despite cumulative vaccination
>>>>> rates at that time being similar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even though vaccination probably reduced care home deaths by a small
>>>>> amount in the early rollout period, there is little evidence that the
>>>>> booster programme had any significant effect on COVID-related deaths.
>>>>
>>>> In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
>>>> GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
>>>> secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
>>>> us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
>>>> pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
>>>> 100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
>>>> appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
>>>> COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
>>>> rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
>>>> moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
>>>> contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
>>>> "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
>>>> self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
>>>> Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
>>>> scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
>>>> Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
>>>> combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
>>>> that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
>>>> longer effective.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
>>>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>>>
>>>> So how are you ?
>>>
>>> I am wonderfully hungry!
>>
>> While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
>> 8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
>> 17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
>> COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
>> Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
>> Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
>> always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
>> including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
>> all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
>> the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
>>
>> Laus DEO !
>
> Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.

On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:12:22 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:

>HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
>>
>> <FLUSH GOOK GIBBERISH>
>>
>> So how are you ?
>>
> I am wonderfully hungry!
>

You slant-eyed perverts certainly are

https://postimg.cc/mhpmTPQz

>
> Michael

<UK> 10/27/24 Loose/KK again vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

"Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
ever more cursed by GOD."

Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
threads:

(1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

(2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

(3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

(4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
now;'"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

(5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

.... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are
http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

Laus DEO !

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

<begin trichotomy>

(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.

(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.

<end trichotomy>

Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

>Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

LIE.

The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
color of my face red for those who can see me.

>He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:
>
>'14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
would've been no reference to "now."

Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
Scripture.

Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
hunger.

It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
eat food "now."

No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
instead of spiritual.

All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
more than ever.

Laus DEO !

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

>Psalms
>81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
>open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

Laus DEO !

>Proverbs
>13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
>the wicked is in need.

Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).

>Joel
>2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
>the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
>people shall never be ashamed.

Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

Laus DEO ! !

>Psalms
>107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.

>Acts
>14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
>giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
>your hearts with food and gladness."

In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

+++

> someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

>> Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

>> John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing
>> status. He includes himself in that status.

John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

>> 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
>> not in us.
>>
>> 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
>> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is
>> not in us.

John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
cognitive deficits, is really worse.

Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.

Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:

http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

Again, this is done ...

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
(Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 18:14:48 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:

>https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1g7m74h/vaccinating_care_home_residents_reduced_deaths/
>
>Vaccinating care home residents reduced deaths, but the effect was small
>– new study
>Published: October 18, 2024 8:42am EDT
>Authors
>David Paton
>Chair of Industrial Economics, Nottingham University Business School,
>University of Nottingham
>
>Sourafel Girma
>Professor of Industrial Economics, Faculty of Social Sciences,
>University of Nottingham
>
>Disclosure statement
>David Paton is a member of HART (Health Advisory and Recovery Team).
>
>Sourafel Girma does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive
>funding from any company or organization that would benefit from this
>article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their
>academic appointment.
>
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>Vaccinating older people probably did avert some deaths in 2021, but the
>effects were small. And even those small effects on mortality seem to
>have dissipated during the booster programme. That’s the conclusion of
>our new study, published in the European Economic Review.
>
>COVID-related deaths decreased significantly in most of Europe and the
>US from the middle of 2021. Although this reduction coincided with the
>rollout of COVID vaccines, it has proved surprisingly difficult to
>identify the extent to which vaccination contributed to the drop in deaths.
>
>Randomised controlled trials (the gold standard for testing new
>treatments) suggest COVID vaccination can provide significant protection
>against serious illness and death relative to unvaccinated people who
>have not previously been infected with COVID. But there are reasons the
>effect of vaccination on mortality may be lower when viewed outside of
>trials.
>
>Early in the programme, there were hopes that vaccination would also
>prove highly effective in preventing the spread of COVID but it has
>since become clear that vaccination provides only limited and short-term
>protection against infection and transmission.
>
>Don’t let yourself be misled. Understand issues with help from experts
>It is also well established that a previous infection provides
>protection both against reinfection and against serious illness and
>death in the event of reinfection that is at least as effective as
>vaccination. Having a previous infection significantly reduces the
>likelihood of being vaccinated meaning the vaccinated population will
>include a relatively high proportion of people without protection from
>prior infection. So even if vaccination provides protection at an
>individual level, we may still observe population-level mortality rates
>that are similar for vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.
>
>The effectiveness of vaccination programmes may also be limited by
>people’s behaviour. For example, there is evidence that vaccinated
>people who get infected are more likely to have mild symptoms and this
>may cause them to take fewer precautions than others against spreading
>infection. As a result, vaccination may sometimes be associated with
>more rather than less transmission.
>
>Taken together, even if vaccination reduces the risk on an individual
>basis, it does not necessarily follow that it will reduce deaths at a
>population level. Existing research reflects this ambiguity with some
>research finding very significant effects of vaccination on death while
>other findings conclude there was little or no effect at all.
>
>Our new study attempts to improve our knowledge about the effect of
>COVID vaccination programmes by estimating the effect of vaccination
>take up on deaths in care homes. This is a particularly important group
>to examine. Given that the vast majority of COVID-related deaths occur
>in the elderly, any effect on deaths is highly likely to be seen in care
>homes.
>
>An ampoule of AstraZeneca vaccine with a syringe.
>COVID vaccines reduced serious illness and deaths, but they did little
>to stop infection and transmission. Marc Bruxelle /Alamy Stock Photo
>Machine learning used to analyse the data
>We examined deaths from COVID in care homes across nearly 150 local
>authorities in England from the start of the vaccine rollout in December
>2020 until after the second booster dose in summer 2022. We tested
>whether higher rates of vaccination of staff and elderly residents led
>to fewer deaths both in total and from COVID.
>
>One feature of our research is the use of machine learning (a type of
>artificial intelligence) to isolate the effect of vaccination from other
>factors that may also have affected mortality including levels of prior
>infection as well as demographic, economic and health differences among
>local authorities.
>
>Machine learning is particularly adept at separating out the effects of
>a high number of potential explanatory variables, providing much better
>evidence of when associations represent true causal relationships. In
>contrast to some other research, we also use a measure of vaccination
>that takes account of the fact that effectiveness wanes over time.
>
>We found that higher vaccination rates of residents (but not of staff)
>did indeed lead to fewer deaths, but the effect was relatively small.
>For example, an increase in the resident vaccination take-up rate of 10%
>in a local authority caused, on average, a reduction of 1% in the total
>care home mortality rate. That is equivalent to about 22 fewer deaths
>per week nationwide.
>
>Of course, any reduction in deaths is welcome. But vaccination does not
>appear to be the key factor in reducing care home deaths from COVID. We
>also found that the reduction in deaths was restricted to the initial
>vaccination rollout.
>
> From September 2021, when the booster vaccination programme started in
>England, higher vaccination rates of elderly residents do not seem to
>have led to any reduction in deaths. Based on these results, vaccination
>is unlikely to have been responsible for the sustained fall in
>COVID-related deaths.
>
>Why then did Europe and the US experience large reductions in COVID
>deaths since 2021, even during times when infection rates have soared?
>
>There are two explanations. The first is the growth of variants such as
>omicron that, although highly infectious, are less deadly than variants
>responsible for the early waves.
>
>Second, is the rise in the cumulative number of people who gained
>protection from having had previous infections.
>
>These explanations are consistent with the experience of places such as
>Hong Kong, New Zealand and Taiwan. All saw relatively low COVID
>infections and deaths in 2020, meaning only limited levels of natural
>immunity had been built up. All then experienced high mortality rates
>during 2022, well after most people in those places had been vaccinated.
>
>For example, the seven-day average mortality rate in Hong Kong reached
>40 deaths per million in March 2022, a rate far above the highest peak
>seen in the US during the whole pandemic despite cumulative vaccination
>rates at that time being similar.
>
>Even though vaccination probably reduced care home deaths by a small
>amount in the early rollout period, there is little evidence that the
>booster programme had any significant effect on COVID-related deaths.

What is your point, gook?

<UK> 11/01/24 Loose/KK again vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

"Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
ever more cursed by GOD."

Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
threads:

(1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

(2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

(3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

(4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
now;'"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

(5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

.... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are
http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

Laus DEO !

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

<begin trichotomy>

(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.

(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.

<end trichotomy>

Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

>Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

LIE.

The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
color of my face red for those who can see me.

>He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:
>
>'14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
would've been no reference to "now."

Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
Scripture.

Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
hunger.

It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
eat food "now."

No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
instead of spiritual.

All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
more than ever.

Laus DEO !

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

>Psalms
>81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
>open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

Laus DEO !

>Proverbs
>13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
>the wicked is in need.

Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).

>Joel
>2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
>the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
>people shall never be ashamed.

Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

Laus DEO ! !

>Psalms
>107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.

>Acts
>14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
>giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
>your hearts with food and gladness."

In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

+++

> someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

>> Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

>> John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing
>> status. He includes himself in that status.

John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

>> 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
>> not in us.
>>
>> 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
>> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is
>> not in us.

John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
cognitive deficits, is really worse.

Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.

Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:

http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

Again, this is done ...

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
(Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

Loose Cannon wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 18:14:48 -0700, Michael Ejercito
> <MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:
>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1g7m74h/vaccinating_care_home_residents_reduced_deaths/
>>
>> Vaccinating care home residents reduced deaths, but the effect was small
>> – new study
>> Published: October 18, 2024 8:42am EDT
>> Authors
>> David Paton
>> Chair of Industrial Economics, Nottingham University Business School,
>> University of Nottingham
>>
>> Sourafel Girma
>> Professor of Industrial Economics, Faculty of Social Sciences,
>> University of Nottingham
>>
>> Disclosure statement
>> David Paton is a member of HART (Health Advisory and Recovery Team).
>>
>> Sourafel Girma does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive
>> funding from any company or organization that would benefit from this
>> article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their
>> academic appointment.
>>
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>> Vaccinating older people probably did avert some deaths in 2021, but the
>> effects were small. And even those small effects on mortality seem to
>> have dissipated during the booster programme. That’s the conclusion of
>> our new study, published in the European Economic Review.
>>
>> COVID-related deaths decreased significantly in most of Europe and the
>> US from the middle of 2021. Although this reduction coincided with the
>> rollout of COVID vaccines, it has proved surprisingly difficult to
>> identify the extent to which vaccination contributed to the drop in deaths.
>>
>> Randomised controlled trials (the gold standard for testing new
>> treatments) suggest COVID vaccination can provide significant protection
>> against serious illness and death relative to unvaccinated people who
>> have not previously been infected with COVID. But there are reasons the
>> effect of vaccination on mortality may be lower when viewed outside of
>> trials.
>>
>> Early in the programme, there were hopes that vaccination would also
>> prove highly effective in preventing the spread of COVID but it has
>> since become clear that vaccination provides only limited and short-term
>> protection against infection and transmission.
>>
>> Don’t let yourself be misled. Understand issues with help from experts
>> It is also well established that a previous infection provides
>> protection both against reinfection and against serious illness and
>> death in the event of reinfection that is at least as effective as
>> vaccination. Having a previous infection significantly reduces the
>> likelihood of being vaccinated meaning the vaccinated population will
>> include a relatively high proportion of people without protection from
>> prior infection. So even if vaccination provides protection at an
>> individual level, we may still observe population-level mortality rates
>> that are similar for vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.
>>
>> The effectiveness of vaccination programmes may also be limited by
>> people’s behaviour. For example, there is evidence that vaccinated
>> people who get infected are more likely to have mild symptoms and this
>> may cause them to take fewer precautions than others against spreading
>> infection. As a result, vaccination may sometimes be associated with
>> more rather than less transmission.
>>
>> Taken together, even if vaccination reduces the risk on an individual
>> basis, it does not necessarily follow that it will reduce deaths at a
>> population level. Existing research reflects this ambiguity with some
>> research finding very significant effects of vaccination on death while
>> other findings conclude there was little or no effect at all.
>>
>> Our new study attempts to improve our knowledge about the effect of
>> COVID vaccination programmes by estimating the effect of vaccination
>> take up on deaths in care homes. This is a particularly important group
>> to examine. Given that the vast majority of COVID-related deaths occur
>> in the elderly, any effect on deaths is highly likely to be seen in care
>> homes.
>>
>> An ampoule of AstraZeneca vaccine with a syringe.
>> COVID vaccines reduced serious illness and deaths, but they did little
>> to stop infection and transmission. Marc Bruxelle /Alamy Stock Photo
>> Machine learning used to analyse the data
>> We examined deaths from COVID in care homes across nearly 150 local
>> authorities in England from the start of the vaccine rollout in December
>> 2020 until after the second booster dose in summer 2022. We tested
>> whether higher rates of vaccination of staff and elderly residents led
>> to fewer deaths both in total and from COVID.
>>
>> One feature of our research is the use of machine learning (a type of
>> artificial intelligence) to isolate the effect of vaccination from other
>> factors that may also have affected mortality including levels of prior
>> infection as well as demographic, economic and health differences among
>> local authorities.
>>
>> Machine learning is particularly adept at separating out the effects of
>> a high number of potential explanatory variables, providing much better
>> evidence of when associations represent true causal relationships. In
>> contrast to some other research, we also use a measure of vaccination
>> that takes account of the fact that effectiveness wanes over time.
>>
>> We found that higher vaccination rates of residents (but not of staff)
>> did indeed lead to fewer deaths, but the effect was relatively small.
>> For example, an increase in the resident vaccination take-up rate of 10%
>> in a local authority caused, on average, a reduction of 1% in the total
>> care home mortality rate. That is equivalent to about 22 fewer deaths
>> per week nationwide.
>>
>> Of course, any reduction in deaths is welcome. But vaccination does not
>> appear to be the key factor in reducing care home deaths from COVID. We
>> also found that the reduction in deaths was restricted to the initial
>> vaccination rollout.
>>
>> From September 2021, when the booster vaccination programme started in
>> England, higher vaccination rates of elderly residents do not seem to
>> have led to any reduction in deaths. Based on these results, vaccination
>> is unlikely to have been responsible for the sustained fall in
>> COVID-related deaths.
>>
>> Why then did Europe and the US experience large reductions in COVID
>> deaths since 2021, even during times when infection rates have soared?
>>
>> There are two explanations. The first is the growth of variants such as
>> omicron that, although highly infectious, are less deadly than variants
>> responsible for the early waves.
>>
>> Second, is the rise in the cumulative number of people who gained
>> protection from having had previous infections.
>>
>> These explanations are consistent with the experience of places such as
>> Hong Kong, New Zealand and Taiwan. All saw relatively low COVID
>> infections and deaths in 2020, meaning only limited levels of natural
>> immunity had been built up. All then experienced high mortality rates
>> during 2022, well after most people in those places had been vaccinated.
>>
>> For example, the seven-day average mortality rate in Hong Kong reached
>> 40 deaths per million in March 2022, a rate far above the highest peak
>> seen in the US during the whole pandemic despite cumulative vaccination
>> rates at that time being similar.
>>
>> Even though vaccination probably reduced care home deaths by a small
>> amount in the early rollout period, there is little evidence that the
>> booster programme had any significant effect on COVID-related deaths.
>
>
> What is your point, gook?
>
Mangina, I shared an article of interest.

Michael

(UK) 11/05/24 Again praying w/ Michael here ...

https://narkive.com/6axWoF8v.7

<UK> 11/05/24 Loose/KK again vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

"Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
ever more cursed by GOD."

Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
threads:

(1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

(2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

(3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

(4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
now;'"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

(5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

.... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are
http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

Laus DEO !

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

<begin trichotomy>

(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.

(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.

<end trichotomy>

Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

>Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

LIE.

The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
color of my face red for those who can see me.

>He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:
>
>'14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
would've been no reference to "now."

Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
Scripture.

Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
hunger.

It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
eat food "now."

No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
instead of spiritual.

All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
more than ever.

Laus DEO !

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

>Psalms
>81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
>open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

Laus DEO !

>Proverbs
>13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
>the wicked is in need.

Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).

>Joel
>2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
>the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
>people shall never be ashamed.

Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

Laus DEO ! !

>Psalms
>107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.

>Acts
>14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
>giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
>your hearts with food and gladness."

In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

+++

> someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

>> Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

>> John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing
>> status. He includes himself in that status.

John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

>> 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
>> not in us.
>>
>> 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
>> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is
>> not in us.

John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
cognitive deficits, is really worse.

Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.

Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:

http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

Again, this is done ...

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
(Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
> (UK) 11/05/24 Again praying w/ Michael here ...
>
> https://narkive.com/6axWoF8v.7
>
Let us pray!

Michael

Michael Ejercito wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> (UK) 11/05/24 Again praying w/ Michael here ...
>>
>> https://narkive.com/6axWoF8v.7
>
> Let us pray!

.... and do likewise as our LORD Jesus & I have done for you, Michael,
and http://go.WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) to be
https://bit.ly/Wonderfully_Hungrier more blessed by GOD right now
(Luke 6:21a).