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Subject: Black Widower effect examples
From: David Dalton
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From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton)
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Subject: Black Widower effect examples
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A while ago I posted about the black widow(er) effect,
in which a gay or lesbian in a deceptive relationship
with an incompatible partner of the opposite gender
causes negative mental and physical health effects
on that partner, sometimes shortening their lifespan.
That does not occur in platonic friendship/parenting
partnerships such as gay--lesbian, gay--straight-type-2-F,
and lesbian--straight-type-2-M, but does in gay--bif,
gay--straight-type-1-F, lesbian--bim, and lesbian--straight-type-1-M.

Memorial University posted today that Allyson Marie McGrane,
a student in the Faculty of Education, had died, and gave
a link to her obituary, which said that she was based in
Vancouver and had died at age 48 of cancer, and that her
lifelong partner was Shane Birley.

From his pictures on images.google.com and from my
matchmaking ability I divine that Shane Birley is gay,
and that the black widower effect caused Allyson’s
cancer. Another example of that is the early death
of (gay) Antonio Guterres’s first wife, though he is
optimally sexually compatible with his bimT current wife,
and is currently minor good as defined by Goddess,
so he has worked off any debt related to his first wife.

How would a lesbian or gay have sex with an incompatible
partner? A lesbian could just lie there/fake it, but either a
lesbian or a gay could think of someone of the same
gender as them who is not there, and I think that practice
has more negative magick effects than just lying there.

Of course not all cancers are due to this black widow(er)
effect, but I believe that a sizeable percentage of them are,
and that this should be researched further.

I also have divined that Allyson has just reincarnated
as an orca fetus.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her head to
find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (Sarah McLachlan)

Subject: Re: Black Widower effect examples
From: Ted
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Subject: Re: Black Widower effect examples
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David Dalton wrote:

> A while ago I posted about the black widow(er) effect,
> in which a gay or lesbian in a deceptive relationship
> with an incompatible partner of the opposite gender
> causes negative mental and physical health effects
> on that partner, sometimes shortening their lifespan.
> That does not occur in platonic friendship/parenting
> partnerships such as gay--lesbian, gay--straight-type-2-F,
> and lesbian--straight-type-2-M, but does in gay--bif,
> gay--straight-type-1-F, lesbian--bim, and lesbian--straight-type-1-M.
>
> Memorial University posted today that Allyson Marie McGrane,
> a student in the Faculty of Education, had died, and gave
> a link to her obituary, which said that she was based in
> Vancouver and had died at age 48 of cancer, and that her
> lifelong partner was Shane Birley.
>
> From his pictures on images.google.com and from my
> matchmaking ability I divine that Shane Birley is gay,
> and that the black widower effect caused Allyson’s
> cancer. Another example of that is the early death
> of (gay) Antonio Guterres’s first wife, though he is
> optimally sexually compatible with his bimT current wife,
> and is currently minor good as defined by Goddess,
> so he has worked off any debt related to his first wife.
>
> How would a lesbian or gay have sex with an incompatible
> partner? A lesbian could just lie there/fake it, but either a
> lesbian or a gay could think of someone of the same
> gender as them who is not there, and I think that practice
> has more negative magick effects than just lying there.
>
> Of course not all cancers are due to this black widow(er)
> effect, but I believe that a sizeable percentage of them are,
> and that this should be researched further.
>
> I also have divined that Allyson has just reincarnated
> as an orca fetus.

As an orca, what qualities will Allyson retain of the person she was,
i.e. how is she the same?

Subject: Re: Black Widower effect examples
From: David Dalton
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From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton)
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Subject: Re: Black Widower effect examples
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On Apr 17, 2024, Ted wrote
(in article <QLITN.5428$moa7.660@fx18.iad>):

> David Dalton wrote:
>
> > A while ago I posted about the black widow(er) effect,
> > in which a gay or lesbian in a deceptive relationship
> > with an incompatible partner of the opposite gender
> > causes negative mental and physical health effects
> > on that partner, sometimes shortening their lifespan.
> > That does not occur in platonic friendship/parenting
> > partnerships such as gay--lesbian, gay--straight-type-2-F,
> > and lesbian--straight-type-2-M, but does in gay--bif,
> > gay--straight-type-1-F, lesbian--bim, and lesbian--straight-type-1-M.
> >
> > Memorial University posted today that Allyson Marie McGrane,
> > a student in the Faculty of Education, had died, and gave
> > a link to her obituary, which said that she was based in
> > Vancouver and had died at age 48 of cancer, and that her
> > lifelong partner was Shane Birley.
> >
> > From his pictures on images.google.com and from my
> > matchmaking ability I divine that Shane Birley is gay,
> > and that the black widower effect caused Allyson’s
> > cancer. Another example of that is the early death
> > of (gay) Antonio Guterres’s first wife, though he is
> > optimally sexually compatible with his bimT current wife,
> > and is currently minor good as defined by Goddess,
> > so he has worked off any debt related to his first wife.
> >
> > How would a lesbian or gay have sex with an incompatible
> > partner? A lesbian could just lie there/fake it, but either a
> > lesbian or a gay could think of someone of the same
> > gender as them who is not there, and I think that practice
> > has more negative magick effects than just lying there.
> >
> > Of course not all cancers are due to this black widow(er)
> > effect, but I believe that a sizeable percentage of them are,
> > and that this should be researched further.
> >
> > I also have divined that Allyson has just reincarnated
> > as an orca fetus.
>
> As an orca, what qualities will Allyson retain of the person she was,
> i.e. how is she the same?

That can’t be answered unless we identify the orca in
question, learn to communicate with and interview it,
and perhaps enlist the services of someone with
past life regression ability, such as Tanita Tikaram.

Some who are well versed in religions with a reincarnation
tradition, such as Tibetan Buddhism and Hinduism,
might have more thoughts on the matter.

I find it odd that you focussed on that last aside of mine
rather than the main points of my post. If you disagree
with that last aside that shouldn’t negate the rest of
my post.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her head to
find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (Sarah McLachlan)

Subject: Re: Black Widower effect examples
From: Ted
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From: ted.street@gmail.com (Ted)
Subject: Re: Black Widower effect examples
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David Dalton wrote:

> On Apr 17, 2024, Ted wrote
> (in article <QLITN.5428$moa7.660@fx18.iad>):
>
> > David Dalton wrote:
> >
> > > A while ago I posted about the black widow(er) effect,
> > > in which a gay or lesbian in a deceptive relationship
> > > with an incompatible partner of the opposite gender
> > > causes negative mental and physical health effects
> > > on that partner, sometimes shortening their lifespan.
> > > That does not occur in platonic friendship/parenting
> > > partnerships such as gay--lesbian, gay--straight-type-2-F,
> > > and lesbian--straight-type-2-M, but does in gay--bif,
> > > gay--straight-type-1-F, lesbian--bim, and
> > > lesbian--straight-type-1-M.
> > >
> > > Memorial University posted today that Allyson Marie McGrane,
> > > a student in the Faculty of Education, had died, and gave
> > > a link to her obituary, which said that she was based in
> > > Vancouver and had died at age 48 of cancer, and that her
> > > lifelong partner was Shane Birley.
> > >
> > > From his pictures on images.google.com and from my
> > > matchmaking ability I divine that Shane Birley is gay,
> > > and that the black widower effect caused Allyson’s
> > > cancer. Another example of that is the early death
> > > of (gay) Antonio Guterres’s first wife, though he is
> > > optimally sexually compatible with his bimT current wife,
> > > and is currently minor good as defined by Goddess,
> > > so he has worked off any debt related to his first wife.
> > >
> > > How would a lesbian or gay have sex with an incompatible
> > > partner? A lesbian could just lie there/fake it, but either a
> > > lesbian or a gay could think of someone of the same
> > > gender as them who is not there, and I think that practice
> > > has more negative magick effects than just lying there.
> > >
> > > Of course not all cancers are due to this black widow(er)
> > > effect, but I believe that a sizeable percentage of them are,
> > > and that this should be researched further.
> > >
> > > I also have divined that Allyson has just reincarnated
> > > as an orca fetus.
> >
> > As an orca, what qualities will Allyson retain of the person she
> > was, i.e. how is she the same?
>
> That can’t be answered unless we identify the orca in
> question, learn to communicate with and interview it,
> and perhaps enlist the services of someone with
> past life regression ability, such as Tanita Tikaram.
>
> Some who are well versed in religions with a reincarnation
> tradition, such as Tibetan Buddhism and Hinduism,
> might have more thoughts on the matter.
>
> I find it odd that you focussed on that last aside of mine
> rather than the main points of my post. If you disagree
> with that last aside that shouldn’t negate the rest of
> my post.

I wasn't trying to find fault with the rest of your post. It seems
plausible.

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