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Subject: For privacy, what is a suitable alternative to the Google FitBit app on Android?
From: Andrew
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If anyone has a Google Account set up on Android, then they have forfeited
their right to privacy - but luckily Android works fine without adding a
Google Account integral to the operating system in Settings > Accounts.
<https://i.postimg.cc/x1NZwj5G/account02.jpg>

In a recent thread, it was observed that the Google FitBit app
automatically infested Android with a parasitic Google Account.
*What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS?*
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=56585&group=comp.mobile.android#56585>

To test that privacy observation, I just moments ago downloaded the latest
FitBit app from the Google Play Store repository <com.fitbit.FitbitMobile>.

It asked me to choose "Sign in with Google" or "Sign in with Fitbit".

Clicking "Sign in with Fitbit" doesn't seem to allow me to *create* a
FitBit account, and "Sign in with Google" says, very clearly this:

*The [Google] account will be added to this device*
<https://i.postimg.cc/7ZRtbdHN/fitbit01.jpg>

Obviously, that's a dangerous app in terms of privacy since you forfeit
your right to privacy when you add an account integral to Android settings.

That means we need to find a suitable *alternative* to the FitBit app.
What is it?

Subject: Re: For privacy, what is a suitable alternative to the Google FitBit app on Android?
From: D
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On Thu, 2 Jan 2025, Andrew wrote:

> If anyone has a Google Account set up on Android, then they have forfeited
> their right to privacy - but luckily Android works fine without adding a
> Google Account integral to the operating system in Settings > Accounts.
> <https://i.postimg.cc/x1NZwj5G/account02.jpg>
>
> In a recent thread, it was observed that the Google FitBit app
> automatically infested Android with a parasitic Google Account.
> *What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS?*
> <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=56585&group=comp.mobile.android#56585>
>
> To test that privacy observation, I just moments ago downloaded the latest
> FitBit app from the Google Play Store repository <com.fitbit.FitbitMobile>.
>
> It asked me to choose "Sign in with Google" or "Sign in with Fitbit".
>
> Clicking "Sign in with Fitbit" doesn't seem to allow me to *create* a
> FitBit account, and "Sign in with Google" says, very clearly this:
>
> *The [Google] account will be added to this device*
> <https://i.postimg.cc/7ZRtbdHN/fitbit01.jpg>
>
> Obviously, that's a dangerous app in terms of privacy since you forfeit
> your right to privacy when you add an account integral to Android settings.
>
> That means we need to find a suitable *alternative* to the FitBit app.
> What is it?
>

I suggest a NoBit. Seriously, people have exercised without tracking and
smart watches since time immemorial, and I see no reason for why we should
stop now.

If you absolutely need tracking, then set a time limit. Go jogging for 20
minutes or 30, and that's it. Your body will take care of the rest.

If you're really into data, a bathroom scale will allow you to follow your
progress nicely.

Subject: Re: For privacy, what is a suitable alternative to the Google FitBit app on Android?
From: Andrew
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D wrote on Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:36:18 +0100 :

>> That means we need to find a suitable *alternative* to the FitBit app.
>> What is it?
>>
>
> I suggest a NoBit. Seriously, people have exercised without tracking and
> smart watches since time immemorial, and I see no reason for why we should
> stop now.
>
> If you absolutely need tracking, then set a time limit. Go jogging for 20
> minutes or 30, and that's it. Your body will take care of the rest.
>
> If you're really into data, a bathroom scale will allow you to follow your
> progress nicely.

Thanks for that valuable insight as I think the data below solves the
privacy problem by replacing FitBit functionality with privacy-aware apps.

I've never used FitBit but I'm trying to be helpful to everyone since
privacy is a goal that everyone should care about - especially when GPS
satellites and navigation are involved with an Android device.

Thank you for understanding that the goal here is to provide people with
whatever it is that FitBit provides to them... but WITHOUT Google adding an
account integral to the Android operating system (which murders privacy).

Your sarcasm is well taken that nobody *needs* the FitBit functionality to
survive, and even if they did - they can get that functionality w/o Google.

I asked AI what replacements for FitBit functionality exist, and this came
back as the answer to the question of what replaces FitBit functionality.

Q: What is a fitbit app replacement on Android that doesn't use google
Here are a few Fitbit app replacements for Android that don't
use Google:

Samsung Health: This app is pre-installed on many Samsung
devices and offers a wide range of features, including step
tracking, heart rate monitoring, sleep tracking, and workout
tracking. It also has a social component that allows you to
connect with friends and family.

Garmin Connect: This app is designed for use with Garmin devices,
but it can also be used as a standalone fitness tracker.
It offers many of the same features as Samsung Health,
as well as some additional features such as GPS tracking
and advanced workout analysis.

Polar Flow: This app is designed for use with Polar devices,
but it can also be used as a standalone fitness tracker.
It offers a wide range of features, including heart rate
monitoring, GPS tracking, and sleep tracking. It also has
a social component that allows you to connect with friends
and family.

These are just a few of the many Fitbit app replacements
available for Android.

Since I never used FitBit myself, I asked what the heck it does.

Q: What exactly does the FitBit Android app do for people anyway?
The Fitbit app on Android does a lot!
Here are some key things it enables:

Track Your Activity:
Steps: Counts your daily steps, distance walked, and calories burned.

Exercise: Records workouts like running, swimming, cycling, and more.
You can track them manually or use built-in GPS.

Heart Rate: Monitors your resting heart rate and tracks your heart
rate during workouts.

Monitor Your Sleep:
Tracks your sleep duration, sleep stages (light, deep, REM),
and restlessness. Provides insights and tips to improve your
sleep quality.

Manage Your Health:
Log Food: Track your calorie intake and monitor your nutrition.

Manage Weight: Set weight loss goals and track your progress.
Hydration: Track your daily water intake.

Connect and Share:
Connect with friends and family to share your progress
and stay motivated. Join challenges and compete with others.

Control Your Fitbit Device:
Customize your device settings.
Receive notifications (calls, texts, calendar alerts) on your
Fitbit device. Access and control music playback.

Essentially, the Fitbit app acts as a central hub for all your
health and fitness data. It helps you understand your activity
levels, sleep patterns, and overall health trends, and provides
tools to help you reach your fitness goals.

Interestingly, as far as I'm aware, we *already* have all of that
with privacy-aware apps that do the same thing as the FitBit app.

So, essentially, you're correct. FitBit doesn't do anything we don't
already have with privacy-aware apps that don't involve Google being
set up as an integral component of the Android operating system settings.

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