The Bjornsdottirs - Lightning wrote:
> Europe to burn and freeze at the same time eh kid?
>
> As of Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:02:50 -0600, in message
> v4ahia$18huk$2@dont-email.me, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> It's on, we're now in the early stages of a Heinrich Event leading up to
>> full glaciation shortly:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-1q5cW_V3M
>>
>> TRIPLE CATASTROPHE - 6000-Year Cycle Happening Now
>>
>> https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adh8369 Heinrich event ice
>> discharge and the fate of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning
>> Circulation
>>
>> YUXIN ZHOU HTTPS://ORCID.ORG/0000-0002-3523-8524 AND JERRY F. MCMANUS
>> HTTPS://ORCID.ORG/0000-0002-7365-1600Authors Info & Affiliations SCIENCE
>> 30 May 2024 Vol 384, Issue 6699 pp. 983-986 DOI: 10.1126/science.adh8369
>>
>> Editor’s summary Will ice mass loss from the Greenland Ice Sheet caused
>> by climate warming disrupt large-scale ocean circulation? Zhou et al.
>> reconstructed iceberg production rates during the massive calving
>> episodes of the last glacial period, called Heinrich events, when
>> icebergs did affect ocean circulation. The authors found that
>> present-day Greenland Ice Sheet calving rates are as high as during some
>> of those events.
>>
>> https://cosmosmagazine.com/science/could-the-day-after-tomorrow-come-
> true/
>>
>> A German scientist has echoed the warnings of the film The Day After
>> Tomorrow, finding that a major oceanic circulation system is becoming
>> more unstable – with concerning implications for the climate.
>>
>> A study published in Nature Climate Change observes that the Atlantic
>> Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) – a massive ocean current
>> system that circulates through the Atlantic – may have been losing
>> stability over the past century, due to the influx of melted freshwater
>> into the ocean.
>>
>> This is concerning because the AMOC is responsible for the Gulf Stream,
>> a swift current that brings warm water masses from tropical regions to
>> the northern hemisphere. Because it redistributes heat, this circulation
>> system is not only responsible for creating mild temperatures across
>> Europe but also influencing weather systems across the world.
>>
>> “The Atlantic Meridional Overturning really is one of our planet’s key
>> circulation systems,” says Niklas Boers, the study’s author from the
>> Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, Free University Berlin
>> and Exeter University.
>>
>> If it collapses, it could have impacts such as significantly cooling
>> Europe and affecting tropical monsoon systems.
>>
>> “We already know from some computer simulations and from data from
>> Earth’s past, so-called paleoclimate proxy records, that the AMOC can
>> exhibit – in addition to the currently attained strong mode – an
>> alternative, substantially weaker mode of operation,” Boers says.
>>
>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.14877
>>
>> Machine-learning prediction of tipping and collapse of the Atlantic
>> Meridional Overturning Circulation Shirin Panahi, Ling-Wei Kong,
>> Mohammadamin Moradi, Zheng-Meng Zhai,
>> Bryan Glaz, Mulugeta Haile, Ying-Cheng Lai Recent research on the
>> Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) raised concern about
>> its potential collapse through a tipping point due to the climate-change
>> caused increase in the freshwater input into the North Atlantic. The
>> predicted time window of collapse is centered about the middle of the
>> century and the earliest possible start is approximately two years from
>> now. More generally, anticipating a tipping point at which the system
>> transitions from one stable steady state to another is relevant to a
>> broad range of fields. We develop a machine-learning approach to
>> predicting tipping in noisy dynamical systems with a time-varying
>> parameter and test it on a number of systems including the AMOC,
>> ecological networks, an electrical power system, and a climate model.
>> For the AMOC, our prediction based on simulated fingerprint data and
>> real data of the sea surface temperature places the time window of a
>> potential collapse between the years 2040 and 2065.
>>
>> https://www.wgbh.org/news/commentary/2021-03-24/weve-known-for-years-
> global-warming-could-lead-to-a-new-ice-age-why-is-no-one-doing-anything
>>
>> Call it a cascade of calamitous events.
>>
>> According to scientists, a “cold blob” of water has formed south of
>> Greenland. The blob’s origins can be traced to rapidly melting glaciers,
>> which in turn is the consequence of global warming. The blob could
>> impede the flow of the Gulf Stream, which carries warm water north. And
>> if that happens, the temperature in Europe may drop steeply, hurricanes
>> may become more intense, and sea levels on the East Coast of the United
>> States may rise even more rapidly than they are already.
>>
>> “We’re all wishing it’s not true,” Peter de Menocal, a scientist at the
>> Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, told The New York Timesearlier
>> this month. “Because if that happens, it’s just a monstrous change.”
>>
>> A monstrous change indeed — and one that we’ve known about for decades.
>> The possibility that climate change could flip and, in just a matter of
>> years, plunge part of the world into a new ice age is something that has
>> occasionally made its way into the media. Yet the world has done very
>> little about it.
>>
>> http://www.longrangeweather.com/climate_change.htm
>>
>> Recently, John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel, stated that,
>> "manmade global warming is the GREATEST SCAM IN HISTORY!"
>>
>> He went on to add, "I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by this
>> theory of global warming based on fraudulent science."
>>
>> He said this, folks, not me. (But, I certainly agree with Dr. Coleman.)
>>
>> Coleman’s climatological opinion has been recently supported by a top
>> observatory that has been measuring a rather dramatic decrease in
>> sunspot activity. These scientists are predicting that global
>> temperatures will drop by at least two degrees in the next 20 years.
>>
>> Our friend, Robert Felix, author of "Not By Fire, But By Ice," believes
>> that this significant cool down could possibly be the start of at least
>> another "Little Ice Age," possibly a new GREAT ICE AGE, which is overdue
>> following 11,500 years of generally warmer than normal global
>> temperatures.
>>
>> This latest period of naturally-occurring warming peaked a decade ago in
>> 1998. It was the strongest such cycle of warming since the days of Leif
>> Ericcson around 1,000 A.D. At the time, the mighty Vikings were actually
>> farming parts of Greenland growing wheat, vegetables and raising cattle.
>> They actually grew tomatoes and grapes!
>>
>> Robert Felix gives this warning: "Living in the northern U.S. could
>> eventually be hazardous to your health!"
>>
>> He goes on to say, "the next major ice age could begin any day...next
>> week, next month or next year." (Get that snowblower tuned-up.)
>>
>> Felix believes that someday soon we’ll be "buried beneath nine stories
>> of ice and snow as the bitter climate of Greenland descends upon Canada,
>> Britain, Norway, Sweden, the U.S. and other northern regions ---
>> practically overnight."
>>
>> It’s all part of a dependable, predictable, natural cycle of climate
>> that returns "like clockwork" every 11,500 years.
>

First the Solar flare burn, that would be the precursor event, then the
rapid glaciation, leading to things like this:

https://loyalkng.com/2009/04/30/frozen-woolly-mammoth-baby-40000-yrs-holy-iceage-batarang-batman/

With the UAH and CRUT yet to report their May numbers it's time for
the call of the board among the data series we monitor on A.G-W.
Of the 96 series from the US, UK and Europe we follow 70 have
recorded record warm for the past 12m Jun23-May24.
The only data-series to fall out of the top 10 are the UAH
data for the lower stratosphere that has been cooling since
records began in the 1970s but for the past 12m has been
above the trend.
With so many data ranking "warmest on record" going back up to
175y the stand-outs are those series showing an average for the
past 12m approaching 3C above normal -- notably the NOAA's Arc and
Arcland series.
Other NASA, NOAA, Hadley, Berkeley and UAH series (22 of them)
show warming more than 1C above baselines that mostly refer to 30y
periods centered on the 1980s.

The summary table is as follows:

Dataseries Rank Value #m firstm lastm
seaice.extent 1 10.2750 22 202306 202404
aravgArcland 1 2.7423 12 202306 202405
aravgArc 1 2.5888 12 202306 202405
aravgNHland 1 2.0049 12 202306 202405
nhtsdsst 1 1.681 12 202306 202405
hadcrut5nh 1 1.6106 11 202306 202404
aravgNTemp 1 1.5372 12 202306 202405
aravgNH 1 1.4616 12 202306 202405
berkglobair 1 1.3555 10 202306 202403
glbtsdsst 1 1.303 12 202306 202405
hadcrut5 1 1.2299 11 202306 202404
berkglobwater 1 1.2147 10 202306 202403
hadsst4_nh 1 1.2012 10 202306 202403
uah_globe6TrpcsLand 1 1.1591 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6NHLand 1 1.1045 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6NoExtLand 1 1.1018 11 202306 202404
hadsst4_trop 1 1.0725 10 202306 202403
aravgNHocean 1 1.0509 12 202306 202405
uah_globe6Trpcs 1 1.0418 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6GlobeLand 1 1.0273 11 202306 202404
uah_mtTrpcsLand 1 1.0164 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6NoPolLand 1 1.0082 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6TrpcsOcean 1 1.0073 11 202306 202404
aravg 1 1.0033 12 202306 202405
hadsst4 1 0.9963 10 202306 202403
aravgSHland 1 0.9473 12 202306 202405
uah_mtTrpcs 1 0.9427 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6NH 1 0.9391 11 202306 202404
shtsdsst 1 .928 12 202306 202405
uah_mtTrpcsOcean 1 0.9227 11 202306 202404
uah_mtNHLand 1 0.9155 11 202306 202404
uah_mtNoPolLand 1 0.9118 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6NoExt 1 0.9000 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6AUST 1 0.8964 11 202306 202404
uah_mtNoExtLand 1 0.8964 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6NoPol 1 0.8855 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6SHLand 1 0.8600 11 202306 202404
uah_mtNoPol 1 0.8509 11 202306 202404
hadcrut5sh 1 0.8492 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6NHOcean 1 0.8336 11 202306 202404
uah_mtGlobeLand 1 0.8336 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6 1 0.8333 12 202306 202405
uah_mtNH 1 0.8327 11 202306 202404
hadsst4_sh 1 0.7960 10 202306 202403
uah_mtNoExt 1 0.7836 11 202306 202404
uah_mtNoPolOcean 1 0.7827 11 202306 202404
uah_mtNHOcean 1 0.7809 11 202306 202404
uah_mtAUST 1 0.7600 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6GlobeOcean 1 0.7464 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6NoPolOcean 1 0.7418 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6NoExtOcean 1 0.7191 11 202306 202404
uah_mt 1 0.7136 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6SH 1 0.7109 11 202306 202404
uah_mtNoExtOcean 1 0.6836 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6SHOcean 1 0.6827 11 202306 202404
jma 1 0.6736 11 202306 202404
uah_mtGlobeOcean 1 0.6655 11 202306 202404
uah_mtSHLand 1 0.6464 11 202306 202404
uah_mtUSA49 1 0.6245 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6SoExtLand 1 0.5982 11 202306 202404
uah_mtSH 1 0.5927 11 202306 202404
uah_mtUSA48 1 0.5891 11 202306 202404
uah_mtSHOcean 1 0.5800 11 202306 202404
aravgSH 1 0.5451 12 202306 202405
uah_globe6SoExt 1 0.5291 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6SoExtOcean 1 0.5155 11 202306 202404
aravgSHocean 1 0.4512 12 202306 202405
uah_mtSoExtOcean 1 0.4091 11 202306 202404
uah_mtSoExt 1 0.3982 11 202306 202404
uah_lsSHLand 1 -0.7691 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6USA49 2 0.6400 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6USA48 2 0.6355 11 202306 202404
aravgSTemp 2 0.3463 12 202306 202405
uah_lsTrpcsLand 2 -0.5700 11 202306 202404
uah_lsTrpcs 2 -0.6245 11 202306 202404
uah_lsTrpcsOcean 2 -0.6409 11 202306 202404
aravgArcocean 3 1.2253 12 202306 202405
uah_globe6SoPolOcean 3 0.4382 11 202306 202404
uah_lsSH 3 -0.4018 11 202306 202404
snowcover.area 4 23.9603 12 202306 202405
uah_lsSoExtLand 4 -0.8564 11 202306 202404
uah_mtSoExtLand 5 0.3445 11 202306 202404
uah_lsSHOcean 5 -0.3273 11 202306 202404
uah_globe6SoPol 6 0.2364 11 202306 202404
uah_lsGlobeOcean 6 -0.2273 11 202306 202404
uah_lsAUST 6 -0.2800 11 202306 202404
uah_lsSoPolLand 7 -1.7027 11 202306 202404
piomas.vol 8 14.0315 12 202306 202405
uah_ls 8 -0.2245 11 202306 202404
uah_mtSoPolOcean 9 0.1545 11 202306 202404
uah_lsSoPol 9 -1.1836 11 202306 202404
uah_lsGlobeLand 10 -0.2109 11 202306 202404
uah_lsSoExt 12 -0.2627 11 202306 202404
uah_lsSoPolOcean 12 -0.9364 11 202306 202404
uah_lsSoExtOcean 14 -0.1555 11 202306 202404
uah_lsNHOcean 16 -0.0973 11 202306 202404
uah_lsNH 17 -0.0455 11 202306 202404

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R Kym Horsell wrote:
> With the UAH and CRUT yet to report their May numbers it's time for
> the call of the board among the data series we monitor on A.G-W.

https://notrickszone.com/2017/05/04/there-has-been-no-man-made-global-warming-in-the-southern-hemisphere-equatorial-regions/

Half The Planet Has Not Cooperated
With The ‘Global’ Warming Narrative
According to overseers of the long-term instrumental temperature data,
the Southern Hemisphere record is “mostly made up”. This is due to an
extremely limited number of available measurements both historically and
even presently from the south pole to the equatorial regions.

Below is an actual e-mail conversation between the Climate Research
Unit’s Phil Jones and climate scientist Tom Wigley. Phil Jones is the
one who is largely responsible for making up the 1850-present
temperature data for the Met Office in the UK (HadCRUT).