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Subject: Re: News item : Stanley Meyer
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The information below is derived from the work of genius twin brothers Stanley and Stephen Meyer.Many years of study,reading 42 patents and endless hours of Meyer lectures, documentaries and radio shows gives me the chance to show the heart of their research.
If you want to run your car on water then this is a viable and realistic set of stages to go through to achieve such a goal..
First you must ask yourself why has it not been done in this day and age..A car combustion system that can access the large amount of energy available in electrolysis gas from water.
It is commonly known as Faraday electrolysis. It has high mass conversion losses. Mainly heat.This process alone is a poor option as an engine will not produce enough electricity output to power an electrolysis unit to supply enough gas from the water to realistically cover the car engine's energy requirements..
Many have tried electrolysis gas production methods with very limited success.
So what are the steps to rethink this problem?..
Step 1
Striving for a highly efficient electrolysis cell is the first step.
Your electrolysis cell will not make enough gas to keep the engine running from the car's electrical output.But this is the first step.And the more efficient you make your cell. Be it through the physical construction or efficient driving circuit,or both
Step number 2.
As in step number one you can make gas from your electrolysis cell. This gas fuel starts as water and is converted to gas. The gas is fed into the combustion zone where the second conversion takes place..In the second conversion the gas is converted back to water,with a given amount of energy release.This is the water to gas and gas to water conversions or energy states.
Step three.
We know by now that the first conversion.Water to gas is energy intensive and has a large amount of losses.This is where many hundreds of hours have been spent by people trying endless ways to improve the efficiency of electrolysis. Without taking into account they are dealing with not one mass convention in making the gas. But two mass conventions. Water to gas and gas back to water.
This second energy conversion has been mainly overlooked by the majority of people studying in this area.
So we must take a closer look at this second conversion to see if there are any ways of improving the reaction efficiency at the point of combustion..
Step 3
Conversion factors for gas to water.
It is not well known that the conversion factors for gas to water with an amount of energy released through combustion.This only releases one millionth of the available energy that is in the gases. That is having their mass converted back to water. This is a chain reaction and is quickly shut down and reaches a stable state. The chemicals involved hydrogen and oxygen reach a stable state achieving mass conversion gas to water H2O. At this point the available mass to energy window is closed.
By converting the gas back to water..This water should be then looked on as a waste product of the combustion event..
Step 4
What could be done to reduce this waste byproduct (water).
In theory if you had a 100 percent conversion gas to explosive energy during the second conversion. You would not have any waste. All the gases would be burnt and there would be no byproduct water post combustion..
Step 5
How can this be done? How can we access this chain reaction event and improve its efficiency. If we could improve this mass conversion, just a fraction of a percent. This would vastly reduce the gas input needed. To attain the amount of energy required to run the engine..Less gas is what you will require as opposed to, insufficient gas is the problem.
Note!
Yes, correct Faraday electrolysis makes a gas that you can only access one millionth of its energy through combustion.…
Step 6
How do we look at this inefficient combustion process and make improvements?..
(Chemical reactions!)
Improving combustion to burn more of the available gases.
This step is key!
What is going on during the combustion moment?
Ignition occurs.This sets off a chain reaction that will convert the gas mass back to a liquid mass.(Water). In turn with an amount of explosive energy. As we already know the explosive energy only accounts for one millionth of the possible available energy in the gas fuel. So how do we come up with a system to access more energy from the given amount of fuel?
Step 7...Controlling the combustion event to access larger amounts of energy that are available..
This is done by controlling the combustion moment and extending the chemical reaction in a way to prolong energy release from the gas as it turns to water.
One must note.
Is a combustion engine not a pump. It creates a vacuum at the input manifold and creates a positive pressure at the exhaust manifold.
Hydrogen and oxygen from water is the perfect fuel.Two parts Hydrogen to one part Oxygen.This is the perfect fuel to oxidiser ratio needing no other elements for combustion just fuel with oxidizer. To achieve control of the combustion event you have to control and minimise contamination from other elements. As said above hydrogen and oxygen is the perfect fuel to oxidiser mix.
Something that is mostly unknown about is.The combustion engine can be fueled with hydrogen and oxygen and have the intake manifold completely sealed off. This creates a permanent vacuum in the intake manifold. With the hydrogen and oxygen being delivered into the engine manifold vacuum. An engine like this can be seen in demonstrations online videos..
So now we have hydrogen and oxygen and no other gases at the combustion event.This makes control of the event less complex.
Step 8
How do we make a tool to act upon this simple chain reaction?
Now we get into atoms and molecules.
Is it not true an oxygen atom is 16 times the size of a hydrogen atom. In turn having 16 times the attraction force over an electron than the hydrogen atom. This my friends is your tool to affect the combustion event.
Question is ?
Can we prepare and add oxygen atoms in such a way to the combustion event to improve energy release by way of extending the chain reaction.
Yes this can be done. First you have to have a way to remove electrons from the Oxygen Atom.
Oxygen can be held in a stable state with up to 4 missing electrons by adding the correct light wavelength energy. Removing the electrons can be achieved with the use of a low pressure plasma reactor.
A low pressure plasma reactor will act upon ambient air gases,oxygen,nitrogen,etc. In such a way to bring the constituents of air to what is called chemical resonance.Chemical resonance is a highly charged state whereby elements stop holding on to their electrons and electron sharing occurs. If you can take ambient air gases to chemical resonance. You are halfway to removing electrons from the oxygen atom.
Step 9.Removing electrons from oxygen during chemical resonance.
A plasma reactor consists of two stainless steel electrodes and quartz glass tube. The anode is positioned on the outside of the quartz. And the cathode is inside with a 1mm gap from the quartz. This gap is where the gases are worked upon. In the low pressure plasma zone.
When in use this reactor has an amount of capacitance this is including the charged gases being held at chemical resonance.The gases become part of the reactor circuit capacitance.This capacitance could be considered to be like a single cell of a battery. It takes on capacitance and in turn can be discharged when the power input has stopped. When discharging the reactor's capacitance it is possible to reduce the mass of the plasma excited gases by way of discharging the reactor to a resistive load..
When reactor discharge is engaged the mass of the gases are reduced through a loss of electrons. Oxygen with up to four missing electrons is produced. These gases can be held in a stable state by way of red 660nM light. The low pressure is maintained in the reactor by the engine intake manifold vacuum. It is connected directly to the sealed off intake manifold.
Step 10
How does mass reduced Oxygen atoms extend the opening of the chain reaction window during combustion.
Well remember that the big oxygen atom has 16 times the attraction force compared to the Hydrogen Atom. This is where the Oxygen does work for you. When these processed Oxygen Atoms are added to electrolysis gases Hydrogen and Oxygen during the combustion window. They have such a large attraction force they will overcome the Hydrogens ability to hold on to its electron. And in so forces the Hydrogen to give up its mass to energy. This interaction during the combustion chain reaction causes more mass to be converted and opens the chain reaction window giving access to more than one millionth of the available gas energy. This in turn reduces the amount of byproduct,water in the exhaust..
By adjusting the mixture of fuel and processed gases. Mass reduced Oxygen.
You can now vary not just the gas fuel input. But you can vary the amount of explosive energy per unit of gas fuel.

Stanley Meyer used this method and perfected this fuel gas mix. He reduced the amount of electrolysis gas needed to very small amounts.The water fuel injector was the pinnacle of his achievement regarding using water as fuel

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