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* Re: How do I find the part number for this refrigerator?Jeff Liebermann
`* Re: How do I find the part number for this refrigerator?Jan K.
 `* Re: How do I find the part number for this refrigerator?Jeff Liebermann
  `* Re: How do I find the part number for this refrigerator?Jan K.
   `- Re: How do I find the part number for this refrigerator?Enrico Papaloma

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Subject: Re: How do I find the part number for this refrigerator?
From: Jeff Liebermann
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From: jeffl@cruzio.com (Jeff Liebermann)
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Subject: Re: How do I find the part number for this refrigerator?
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On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 04:32:58 -0000 (UTC), Frankie <frankie@nospam.usa>
wrote:

>I have a Whirlpool WRS325FDAM04 refrigerator whose 3 LEDs lights are all
>flickering (for years) and I want to surprise fix it for my wife's birthday
>coming up.
>
>I think I need to replace the main 120VAC LED control module at the top of
>the refrigerator in the front of the roof which I think also is wired in
>series to two other LED lights, one of which is in the back behind the
>refrigerator crisper and the other of which is in the back of the freezer
>down low.
>
>I just want to make sure I get the right part numbers, specifically for the
>control module but also for the LED lights as I don't know which is busted.
>
>Where can I look up the right part numbers for the three modules to be
>sure?

I started with a Google search:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=Whirlpool+WRS325FDAM04+power+supply>
I picked the first parts supplier (Coast Parts):

Parts suppliers usually have online exploded views of their equipment.
<https://www.coastparts.com/lookup/257008/1693014>

I tried to find the LED control panel, but failed. It's probably on
here somewhere:
<https://www.coastparts.com/lookup/257008/1693014>
The best I could do is:
<https://www.coastparts.com/lookup/257008/1693023#diagram>
I found one board with electronics (item #6), which is an "adaptive
defrost control":
<https://www.coastparts.com/parts/WP-WPW10366605>

If the LED's are "flickering", it means that they will probably light
correctly when power is applied continuously. Therefore, the LED's
are probably not defective and the flashing problem is elsewhere. The
the LED's were totally off, then I would worry about defective LED's.

Good luck.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Subject: Re: How do I find the part number for this refrigerator?
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W Sat, 23 Nov 2024 21:06:01 -0800, Jeff Liebermann napisal:

>>I have a Whirlpool WRS325FDAM04 refrigerator whose 3 LEDs lights are all
>>flickering (for years) and I want to surprise fix it for my wife's birthday
>>coming up.
>>
>>I think I need to replace the main 120VAC LED control module at the top of
>>the refrigerator in the front of the roof which I think also is wired in
>>series to two other LED lights, one of which is in the back behind the
>>refrigerator crisper and the other of which is in the back of the freezer
>>down low.
>>
>>I just want to make sure I get the right part numbers, specifically for the
>>control module but also for the LED lights as I don't know which is busted.
>>
>>Where can I look up the right part numbers for the three modules to be
>>sure?
>
> I started with a Google search:
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=Whirlpool+WRS325FDAM04+power+supply>
> I picked the first parts supplier (Coast Parts):
>
> Parts suppliers usually have online exploded views of their equipment.
> <https://www.coastparts.com/lookup/257008/1693014>
>
> I tried to find the LED control panel, but failed. It's probably on
> here somewhere:
> <https://www.coastparts.com/lookup/257008/1693014>
> The best I could do is:
> <https://www.coastparts.com/lookup/257008/1693023#diagram>
> I found one board with electronics (item #6), which is an "adaptive
> defrost control":
> <https://www.coastparts.com/parts/WP-WPW10366605>
>
> If the LED's are "flickering", it means that they will probably light
> correctly when power is applied continuously. Therefore, the LED's
> are probably not defective and the flashing problem is elsewhere. The
> the LED's were totally off, then I would worry about defective LED's.

I think this is what the OP needs as I had the same issue.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D9JCN4XL

They're wired in series so if one is bad, it will destroy the other.
Most people say R15 or C4 (electrolytic) go bad but you never know.

There's no way to test it so you don't repair it. You replace it.

Subject: Re: How do I find the part number for this refrigerator?
From: Jeff Liebermann
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Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 18:01 UTC
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From: jeffl@cruzio.com (Jeff Liebermann)
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Subject: Re: How do I find the part number for this refrigerator?
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 17:04:08 +0100, "Jan K."
<janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> wrote:

>W Sat, 23 Nov 2024 21:06:01 -0800, Jeff Liebermann napisal:
>
>>>I have a Whirlpool WRS325FDAM04 refrigerator whose 3 LEDs lights are all
>>>flickering (for years) and I want to surprise fix it for my wife's birthday
>>>coming up.
>>>
>>>I think I need to replace the main 120VAC LED control module at the top of
>>>the refrigerator in the front of the roof which I think also is wired in
>>>series to two other LED lights, one of which is in the back behind the
>>>refrigerator crisper and the other of which is in the back of the freezer
>>>down low.
>>>
>>>I just want to make sure I get the right part numbers, specifically for the
>>>control module but also for the LED lights as I don't know which is busted.
>>>
>>>Where can I look up the right part numbers for the three modules to be
>>>sure?
>>
>> I started with a Google search:
>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=Whirlpool+WRS325FDAM04+power+supply>
>> I picked the first parts supplier (Coast Parts):
>>
>> Parts suppliers usually have online exploded views of their equipment.
>> <https://www.coastparts.com/lookup/257008/1693014>
>>
>> I tried to find the LED control panel, but failed. It's probably on
>> here somewhere:
>> <https://www.coastparts.com/lookup/257008/1693014>
>> The best I could do is:
>> <https://www.coastparts.com/lookup/257008/1693023#diagram>
>> I found one board with electronics (item #6), which is an "adaptive
>> defrost control":
>> <https://www.coastparts.com/parts/WP-WPW10366605>
>>
>> If the LED's are "flickering", it means that they will probably light
>> correctly when power is applied continuously. Therefore, the LED's
>> are probably not defective and the flashing problem is elsewhere. The
>> the LED's were totally off, then I would worry about defective LED's.

>I think this is what the OP needs as I had the same issue.
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D9JCN4XL
>
>They're wired in series so if one is bad, it will destroy the other.
>Most people say R15 or C4 (electrolytic) go bad but you never know.

That seems likely except the photos of the part shows four LED's
instead of three.

The video on the Amazon pages shows the flickering lights.

>There's no way to test it so you don't repair it. You replace it.

Note that the photo of the PCB on the Amazon page shows that the board
has 34 test points.
<https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71W3jVVWihL._AC_SL1500_.jpg>
That might lead me to suspect that there might be a way to test it.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Subject: Re: How do I find the part number for this refrigerator?
From: Jan K.
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On 2/12/2024, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

>>
>>>>I have a Whirlpool WRS325FDAM04 refrigerator whose 3 LEDs lights are all
>>>>flickering (for years) and I want to surprise fix it for my wife's birthday
>>>>coming up.
>>>>
>>>>I think I need to replace the main 120VAC LED control module at the top of
>>>>the refrigerator in the front of the roof which I think also is wired in
>>>>series to two other LED lights, one of which is in the back behind the
>>>>refrigerator crisper and the other of which is in the back of the freezer
>>>>down low.
>>>>
>>>>I just want to make sure I get the right part numbers, specifically for the
>>>>control module but also for the LED lights as I don't know which is busted.
>>>>
>>>>Where can I look up the right part numbers for the three modules to be
>>>>sure?
>>>
>>> I started with a Google search:
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=Whirlpool+WRS325FDAM04+power+supply>
>>> I picked the first parts supplier (Coast Parts):
>>>
>>> Parts suppliers usually have online exploded views of their equipment.
>>> <https://www.coastparts.com/lookup/257008/1693014>
>>>
>>> I tried to find the LED control panel, but failed. It's probably on
>>> here somewhere:
>>> <https://www.coastparts.com/lookup/257008/1693014>
>>> The best I could do is:
>>> <https://www.coastparts.com/lookup/257008/1693023#diagram>
>>> I found one board with electronics (item #6), which is an "adaptive
>>> defrost control":
>>> <https://www.coastparts.com/parts/WP-WPW10366605>
>>>
>>> If the LED's are "flickering", it means that they will probably light
>>> correctly when power is applied continuously. Therefore, the LED's
>>> are probably not defective and the flashing problem is elsewhere. The
>>> the LED's were totally off, then I would worry about defective LED's.
>
>>I think this is what the OP needs as I had the same issue.
>>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D9JCN4XL
>>
>>They're wired in series so if one is bad, it will destroy the other.
>>Most people say R15 or C4 (electrolytic) go bad but you never know.
>
> That seems likely except the photos of the part shows four LED's
> instead of three.
>
> The video on the Amazon pages shows the flickering lights.
>
>>There's no way to test it so you don't repair it. You replace it.
>
> Note that the photo of the PCB on the Amazon page shows that the board
> has 34 test points.
> <https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71W3jVVWihL._AC_SL1500_.jpg>
> That might lead me to suspect that there might be a way to test it.

Part numbers seem to be the main control board WPW10515058 for the front of
the refrigerator (right at the top) and two light boards WPW10515057 one
each for behind the refrigerator crisper & in the lower half of the freezer
for a total of three parts.

The Amazon Vine reviews are crazy though, as one Vine customer said
"These lights are very bright perfect for my yard" which is crazy.

With those part numbers, I was able to find a thread on fixing the boards.
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-appliances-and-other-household-electronic-stuff/68748-whirlpool-refrigerator-led-lights-flickering

It's six pages long though, so best to read that thread backwards I think.
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-appliances-and-other-household-electronic-stuff/68748-whirlpool-refrigerator-led-lights-flickering/page6

What's weird is that everyone "fixes" the flickering for a while.
But then it comes back. Every time. Even after replacing R15 & the three
capacitors, a 3.3uf 400v (C6) and 2x 100uf 50v (C7 + C8).

The flickering always seems to come back, even for those electronics buffs.
If anyone figures out how to tell the true bad part, millions of people
would benefit as Whirlpool/Kenmore/Maytag must be making a fortune on
parts.

Subject: Re: How do I find the part number for this refrigerator?
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On 12/2/2024 9:12 PM, Jan K. wrote:
> It's six pages long though, so best to read that thread backwards I think.
> https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-appliances-and-other-household-electronic-stuff/68748-whirlpool-refrigerator-led-lights-flickering/page6
>
> What's weird is that everyone "fixes" the flickering for a while.
> But then it comes back. Every time. Even after replacing R15 & the three
> capacitors, a 3.3uf 400v (C6) and 2x 100uf 50v (C7 + C8).
>
> The flickering always seems to come back, even for those electronics buffs.

It happens to all the early LED refrigerators, millions of them.
https://forum.partsdr.com/showthread.php?6796-Whirlpool-with-flickering-LED-s

I think there's an aftermarket re-design for the flickering which is a much
simpler board (surprisingly) but I don't know much more than this about it.
https://www.ebay.com/p/5036194412?iid=353929074629

Nobody knows why they fail but none have lasted past the warranty period.
https://forum.partsdr.com/showthread.php?6796-Whirlpool-with-flickering-LED-s

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