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* Re: Error of % + digits?Commander Kinsey
`* Re: Error of % + digits?Pimpom
 +* Re: Error of % + digits?Jeroen Belleman
 |`* Re: Error of % + digits?Tom Gardner
 | `- Re: Error of % + digits?Commander Kinsey
 `* Re: Error of % + digits?Commander Kinsey
  `* Re: Error of % + digits?Pimpom
   `* Re: Error of % + digits?Commander Kinsey
    `- Re: Error of % + digits?Pimpom

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Subject: Re: Error of % + digits?
From: Commander Kinsey
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From: CFKinsey@military.org.jp (Commander Kinsey)
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Subject: Re: Error of % + digits?
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 05:53:29 +0100, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 7/13/2020 12:51 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>> On 12/07/20 19:01, Pimpom wrote:
>>> On 7/12/2020 11:15 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 05:23:31 +0100, Cydrome Leader <presence@mungepanix.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In sci.electronics.equipment Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> My mechanical slide caliper has a resolution of 0.001 inch. This
>>>>>> means that it can display measurements with a precision of 1 mil,
>>>>>
>>>>> What if your caliper had a resolution of 1 mil +/- 3 counts on the last
>>>>> digit?
>>> .....<snip>........
>>>>
>>>> In America, what is a "mill"? In the UK, it used to mean a thousandth of an
>>>> inch, but people use it to mean a millimetre nowadays.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's not a mill. It's mil - single l. It means, and has always meant, a
>>> thousandth of an inch. It's not an Americanism.
>>
>> In the UK "mill" means millilitre.
>>
>> If you want to refer to fractions of an inch, then
>> it is /always/ "thou", i.e. thousandths of an inch.
>>
>> In the UK "mil/mill" /never/ means 0.001".
>>
>
> My bad. This is the first time I heard that the mil is not used
> as the unit for .001" in the UK. (I'm *not* an American).

If you're not American why did you say "my bad"? Your bad what? Finish the sentence!

Subject: Re: Error of % + digits?
From: Pimpom
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Subject: Re: Error of % + digits?
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On 7/13/2020 6:06 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 05:53:29 +0100, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 7/13/2020 12:51 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>> On 12/07/20 19:01, Pimpom wrote:
>>>> On 7/12/2020 11:15 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 05:23:31 +0100, Cydrome Leader <presence@mungepanix.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In sci.electronics.equipment Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> My mechanical slide caliper has a resolution of 0.001 inch. This
>>>>>>> means that it can display measurements with a precision of 1 mil,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What if your caliper had a resolution of 1 mil +/- 3 counts on the last
>>>>>> digit?
>>>> .....<snip>........
>>>>>
>>>>> In America, what is a "mill"? In the UK, it used to mean a thousandth of an
>>>>> inch, but people use it to mean a millimetre nowadays.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's not a mill. It's mil - single l. It means, and has always meant, a
>>>> thousandth of an inch. It's not an Americanism.
>>>
>>> In the UK "mill" means millilitre.
>>>
>>> If you want to refer to fractions of an inch, then
>>> it is /always/ "thou", i.e. thousandths of an inch.
>>>
>>> In the UK "mil/mill" /never/ means 0.001".
>>>
>>
>> My bad. This is the first time I heard that the mil is not used
>> as the unit for .001" in the UK. (I'm *not* an American).
>
> If you're not American why did you say "my bad"? Your bad what? Finish the sentence!
>
So now you're a grammar Nazi? This after I (and others) spent
considerable time and effort patiently explaining to you a
concept that many/most readers here probably already knew, and
would quickly grasp if they didn't. Sheesh!

And is there a law against non-Americans using an American
expression? FYI I'm none of these: American, British, Australian
or Canadian - or a citizen of any other country where English is
natively spoken.

Subject: Re: Error of % + digits?
From: Jeroen Belleman
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From: jeroen@nospam.please (Jeroen Belleman)
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Subject: Re: Error of % + digits?
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On 2020-07-13 17:27, Pimpom wrote:
> On 7/13/2020 6:06 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[...]
>> If you're not American why did you say "my bad"?  Your bad what?
>> Finish the sentence!
>>
> So now you're a grammar Nazi? This after I (and others) spent
> considerable time and effort[...]

Just drop it. There are better things to do than to argue
with a cantankerous teenager. If a conversation turns into
a source of irritation, the best way is to simply drop out.

Jeroen Belleman

Subject: Re: Error of % + digits?
From: Tom Gardner
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On 13/07/20 16:39, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
> On 2020-07-13 17:27, Pimpom wrote:
>> On 7/13/2020 6:06 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> [...]
>>> If you're not American why did you say "my bad"?  Your bad what? Finish the
>>> sentence!
>>>
>> So now you're a grammar Nazi? This after I (and others) spent considerable
>> time and effort[...]
>
> Just drop it. There are better things to do than to argue
> with a cantankerous teenager. If a conversation turns into
> a source of irritation, the best way is to simply drop out.

Precisely.

That was my decision too. An easy decision given the moniker
"Commander Kinsey" is either someone that has too high a
regard for themselves, or is indicating that they intend to
troll.

Subject: Re: Error of % + digits?
From: Commander Kinsey
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From: CFKinsey@military.org.jp (Commander Kinsey)
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 21:04:07 +0100, Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> On 13/07/20 16:39, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
>> On 2020-07-13 17:27, Pimpom wrote:
>>> On 7/13/2020 6:06 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> If you're not American why did you say "my bad"? Your bad what? Finish the
>>>> sentence!
>>>>
>>> So now you're a grammar Nazi? This after I (and others) spent considerable
>>> time and effort[...]
>>
>> Just drop it. There are better things to do than to argue
>> with a cantankerous teenager. If a conversation turns into
>> a source of irritation, the best way is to simply drop out.
>
> Precisely.
>
> That was my decision too. An easy decision given the moniker
> "Commander Kinsey" is either someone that has too high a
> regard for themselves, or is indicating that they intend to
> troll.

No such thing as a troll, just someone you disagree with.

Subject: Re: Error of % + digits?
From: Commander Kinsey
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From: CFKinsey@military.org.jp (Commander Kinsey)
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:27:26 +0100, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 7/13/2020 6:06 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 05:53:29 +0100, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/13/2020 12:51 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>>> On 12/07/20 19:01, Pimpom wrote:
>>>>> On 7/12/2020 11:15 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 05:23:31 +0100, Cydrome Leader <presence@mungepanix.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In sci.electronics.equipment Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My mechanical slide caliper has a resolution of 0.001 inch. This
>>>>>>>> means that it can display measurements with a precision of 1 mil,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What if your caliper had a resolution of 1 mil +/- 3 counts on the last
>>>>>>> digit?
>>>>> .....<snip>........
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In America, what is a "mill"? In the UK, it used to mean a thousandth of an
>>>>>> inch, but people use it to mean a millimetre nowadays.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not a mill. It's mil - single l. It means, and has always meant, a
>>>>> thousandth of an inch. It's not an Americanism.
>>>>
>>>> In the UK "mill" means millilitre.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to refer to fractions of an inch, then
>>>> it is /always/ "thou", i.e. thousandths of an inch.
>>>>
>>>> In the UK "mil/mill" /never/ means 0.001".
>>>>
>>>
>>> My bad. This is the first time I heard that the mil is not used
>>> as the unit for .001" in the UK. (I'm *not* an American).
>>
>> If you're not American why did you say "my bad"? Your bad what? Finish the sentence!
>>
> So now you're a grammar Nazi? This after I (and others) spent
> considerable time and effort patiently explaining to you a
> concept that many/most readers here probably already knew, and
> would quickly grasp if they didn't. Sheesh!
>
> And is there a law against non-Americans using an American
> expression? FYI I'm none of these: American, British, Australian
> or Canadian - or a citizen of any other country where English is
> natively spoken.

It's not grammar, it's missing off an entuire word, the one with the meaning in it!

It's like saying "Today I went out and did some".

Subject: Re: Error of % + digits?
From: Pimpom
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On 7/21/2020 2:06 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:27:26 +0100, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 7/13/2020 6:06 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 05:53:29 +0100, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> My bad. This is the first time I heard that the mil is not used
>>>> as the unit for .001" in the UK. (I'm *not* an American).
>>>
>>> If you're not American why did you say "my bad"? Your bad what? Finish the sentence!
>>>
>> So now you're a grammar Nazi? This after I (and others) spent
>> considerable time and effort patiently explaining to you a
>> concept that many/most readers here probably already knew, and
>> would quickly grasp if they didn't. Sheesh!
>>
>> And is there a law against non-Americans using an American
>> expression? FYI I'm none of these: American, British, Australian
>> or Canadian - or a citizen of any other country where English is
>> natively spoken.
>
> It's not grammar, it's missing off an entuire word, the one with the meaning in it!
>
It took you more than a week to think up that comeback? Anyway,
good luck with your self-appointed job of reforming the usage of
American slang which, by the way, has pervaded much of the world
outside the US.

And what does "entuire" mean? Blimey! Skitt's Law, you know, old boy.

> It's like saying "Today I went out and did some".
>
That would be quite acceptable if the context were known.

Subject: Re: Error of % + digits?
From: Commander Kinsey
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From: CFKinsey@military.org.jp (Commander Kinsey)
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Subject: Re: Error of % + digits?
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 07:35:18 +0100, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 7/21/2020 2:06 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:27:26 +0100, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/13/2020 6:06 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 05:53:29 +0100, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My bad. This is the first time I heard that the mil is not used
>>>>> as the unit for .001" in the UK. (I'm *not* an American).
>>>>
>>>> If you're not American why did you say "my bad"? Your bad what? Finish the sentence!
>>>>
>>> So now you're a grammar Nazi? This after I (and others) spent
>>> considerable time and effort patiently explaining to you a
>>> concept that many/most readers here probably already knew, and
>>> would quickly grasp if they didn't. Sheesh!
>>>
>>> And is there a law against non-Americans using an American
>>> expression? FYI I'm none of these: American, British, Australian
>>> or Canadian - or a citizen of any other country where English is
>>> natively spoken.
>>
>> It's not grammar, it's missing off an entuire word, the one with the meaning in it!
>>
> It took you more than a week to think up that comeback?

You think all I do is reply in here?

> Anyway, good luck with your self-appointed job of reforming the usage of
> American slang which, by the way, has pervaded much of the world
> outside the US.

It's not said in the UK. We can speak our own language correctly.

> And what does "entuire" mean? Blimey! Skitt's Law, you know, old boy.

Learn the difference between a typo and stupidity.

>> It's like saying "Today I went out and did some".
>>
> That would be quite acceptable if the context were known.

Why make your conversations like jpeg encoding?

Subject: Re: Error of % + digits?
From: Pimpom
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On 8/1/2020 4:23 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 07:35:18 +0100, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 7/21/2020 2:06 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:27:26 +0100, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/13/2020 6:06 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 05:53:29 +0100, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My bad. This is the first time I heard that the mil is not used
>>>>>> as the unit for .001" in the UK. (I'm *not* an American).
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're not American why did you say "my bad"? Your bad what? Finish the sentence!
>>>>>
>>>> So now you're a grammar Nazi? This after I (and others) spent
>>>> considerable time and effort patiently explaining to you a
>>>> concept that many/most readers here probably already knew, and
>>>> would quickly grasp if they didn't. Sheesh!
>>>>
>>>> And is there a law against non-Americans using an American
>>>> expression? FYI I'm none of these: American, British, Australian
>>>> or Canadian - or a citizen of any other country where English is
>>>> natively spoken.
>>>
>>> It's not grammar, it's missing off an entuire word, the one with the meaning in it!
>>>
>> It took you more than a week to think up that comeback?
>
> You think all I do is reply in here?
>
>> Anyway, good luck with your self-appointed job of reforming the usage of
>> American slang which, by the way, has pervaded much of the world
>> outside the US.
>
> It's not said in the UK. We can speak our own language correctly.
>

You speak for all of the UK? My my, what delusions of grandeur.
And who are you to try to enforce the exclusive use of British
English in a newsgroup?

>> And what does "entuire" mean? Blimey! Skitt's Law, you know, old boy.
>
> Learn the difference between a typo and stupidity.
>
>>> It's like saying "Today I went out and did some".
>>>
>> That would be quite acceptable if the context were known.
>
> Why make your conversations like jpeg encoding?
>

Do you realise that that sentence itself is a condensed form?
Still Skitt's Law.

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