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* The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM neededChax Plore
`* Re: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM neededDavid Malone
 +* Re: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM neededWilliam Unruh
 |`- Re: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM neededChax Plore
 +- Re: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM neededChax Plore
 `- Re: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM neededChax Plore

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Subject: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM needed
From: Chax Plore
Newsgroups: sci.crypt.random-numbers
Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2024 20:18 UTC
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From: ftilojim@tznvy.pbz (Chax Plore)
Newsgroups: sci.crypt.random-numbers
Subject: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM needed
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2024 21:18:18 +0100
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Good day, everyone,

I am searching for untouched version of George Marsaglia's Diehard
CD-ROM. By "untouched" I mean bit-identical ISO copy of original CD-ROM
disc.

Of course I found many copies of CD-ROM contents in Internet, but I also
found that some of them are different between each instance - starting
from details like different EOL format in source code files, and up to
errors like some files totally omitted or being binary different from
each other. This is too much for my OCD. I don't trust Internet copies
I found anymore.

I think sci.crypt is a good place to ask for potential owners of this
disc. If it will be found, I plan to upload it to archive.org to
preserve for eternity this undisputably important piece of computer history.

I planned to post my request on sci.crypt.random-numbers, but it has no
activity.

More info, including photo of original disc is available at
https://github.com/jeffThompson/DiehardCDROM

With kindest regards,

Chax Plore

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Subject: Re: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM needed
From: David Malone
Newsgroups: sci.crypt.random-numbers
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 19:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM needed
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Chax Plore <ftilojim@tznvy.pbz> writes:

>I am searching for untouched version of George Marsaglia's Diehard
>CD-ROM. By "untouched" I mean bit-identical ISO copy of original CD-ROM
>disc.

Have you checked to see if you can get a copy from an academic
library? According to worldcat, the Institute of Technology in
Haifa has a copy, but a nearer library might also have one.

David.

Subject: Re: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM needed
From: William Unruh
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On 2024-03-14, David Malone <dwmalone@walton.maths.tcd.ie> wrote:
> Chax Plore <ftilojim@tznvy.pbz> writes:
>
>>I am searching for untouched version of George Marsaglia's Diehard
>>CD-ROM. By "untouched" I mean bit-identical ISO copy of original CD-ROM
>>disc.

Why do you want it. You realise that none of its random numbers ae
random. They are all well known. You just describe them in about 200
bytes.
So, why do you want them?
>
> Have you checked to see if you can get a copy from an academic
> library? According to worldcat, the Institute of Technology in
> Haifa has a copy, but a nearer library might also have one.
>
> David.

Subject: Re: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM needed
From: Chax Plore
Newsgroups: sci.crypt.random-numbers
Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 18:16 UTC
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From: ftilojim@tznvy.pbz (Chax Plore)
Newsgroups: sci.crypt.random-numbers
Subject: Re: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM needed
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 19:16:07 +0100
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On 2024-03-14 20:42, David Malone wrote:
> Chax Plore <ftilojim@tznvy.pbz> writes:
>
>> I am searching for untouched version of George Marsaglia's Diehard
>> CD-ROM. By "untouched" I mean bit-identical ISO copy of original CD-ROM
>> disc.
>
> Have you checked to see if you can get a copy from an academic
> library? According to worldcat, the Institute of Technology in
> Haifa has a copy, but a nearer library might also have one.
>
> David.
>

I don''t suppose that any non-academic outsider can request digital data
from academic libraries.

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Subject: Re: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM needed
From: Chax Plore
Newsgroups: sci.crypt.random-numbers
Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 18:19 UTC
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From: ftilojim@tznvy.pbz (Chax Plore)
Newsgroups: sci.crypt.random-numbers
Subject: Re: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM needed
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 19:19:01 +0100
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On 2024-03-14 20:42, David Malone wrote:
> Chax Plore <ftilojim@tznvy.pbz> writes:
>
>> I am searching for untouched version of George Marsaglia's Diehard
>> CD-ROM. By "untouched" I mean bit-identical ISO copy of original CD-ROM
>> disc.
>
> Have you checked to see if you can get a copy from an academic
> library? According to worldcat, the Institute of Technology in
> Haifa has a copy, but a nearer library might also have one.
>
> David.
>

I don''t suppose that any non-academic outsider can request digital data
from academic libraries.

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Subject: Re: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM needed
From: Chax Plore
Newsgroups: sci.crypt.random-numbers
Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 18:23 UTC
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From: ftilojim@tznvy.pbz (Chax Plore)
Newsgroups: sci.crypt.random-numbers
Subject: Re: The Marsaglia Random Number CD-ROM needed
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 19:23:22 +0100
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On 2024-03-15 06:40, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2024-03-14, David Malone <dwmalone@walton.maths.tcd.ie> wrote:
>> Chax Plore <ftilojim@tznvy.pbz> writes:
>>
>>> I am searching for untouched version of George Marsaglia's Diehard
>>> CD-ROM. By "untouched" I mean bit-identical ISO copy of original CD-ROM
>>> disc.
>
> Why do you want it. You realise that none of its random numbers ae
> random. They are all well known. You just describe them in about 200
> bytes.
> So, why do you want them?

Because published disc contents cannot be trusted and I want to put
unmodified disc ISO image on archive.org

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