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* Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)Stefan Claas
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Subject: Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)
From: Stefan Claas
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Organization: ℭ𝔥𝔦𝔣𝔣𝔯𝔢𝔭𝔲𝔫𝔨𝔰
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 15:29 UTC
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From: pollux@tilde.club (Stefan Claas)
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Subject: Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)
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Subject: Re: Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)
From: Chris M. Thomasson
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 18:26 UTC
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From: chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com (Chris M. Thomasson)
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Subject: Re: Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)
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On 7/25/2024 8:29 AM, Stefan Claas wrote:
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Take the min and max of the symbol range and I can get your base?

Subject: Re: Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)
From: Stefan Claas
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Organization: ℭ𝔥𝔦𝔣𝔣𝔯𝔢𝔭𝔲𝔫𝔨𝔰
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 19:03 UTC
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From: pollux@tilde.club (Stefan Claas)
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Subject: Re: Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 19:03:39 -0000
Organization: ℭ𝔥𝔦𝔣𝔣𝔯𝔢𝔭𝔲𝔫𝔨𝔰
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Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 7/25/2024 8:29 AM, Stefan Claas wrote:
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> Take the min and max of the symbol range and I can get your base?

Have you ever used OpenPGP?

--
Regards
Stefan

Subject: Re: Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)
From: Chris M. Thomasson
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 19:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)
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On 7/25/2024 12:03 PM, Stefan Claas wrote:
> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 7/25/2024 8:29 AM, Stefan Claas wrote:
[...]
>>
>> Take the min and max of the symbol range and I can get your base?
>
> Have you ever used OpenPGP?
>

Kind of. I remember Rich busting one of my trig based asymmetric cypher
experiments wide open. It was great fun to me.

Subject: Re: Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)
From: Rich
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Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> wrote:

scos2 45 12
o kw8-:Zo2*/ GJe nr('{AK<JVht
+
/ S&[< >Qf f6" eq2 ""+'n
i Y{
) Qn0&- ?OR ej% 7: kwSnm&=>K Feg .G*',Zgu9 _*E|Xb2z}p % VVo64(Ah:
# l8 {#EHL Vk u)@\ SZ bwx+=. Cbd p2$>,J dh7_%;Aa; 2z$). KZlt 6&'.qA
> q"$\RUkhs qt^ IMmys!-F8 Ee3% 7@BQkiz4 @| MT lvt &/B BIpu9$.:n<
/ n89>ORhi0" '>HQj d24 -/|Qhm ""@FD Xb1%7[.U Wn m nq" ?Wdr6V eeowG
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\NZh u3({ ; RUp y2~|?LV<

Subject: Re: Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)
From: Stefan Claas
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Organization: ℭ𝔥𝔦𝔣𝔣𝔯𝔢𝔭𝔲𝔫𝔨𝔰
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From: pollux@tilde.club (Stefan Claas)
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Subject: Re: Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 21:01:34 -0000
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Rich wrote:
> o kw8-:Zo2*/ GJe nr('{AK<JVht
> +
> / S&[< >Qf f6" eq2 ""+'n
> i Y{
> ) Qn0&- ?OR ej% 7: kwSnm&=>K Feg .G*',Zgu9 _*E|Xb2z}p % VVo64(Ah:
> # l8 {#EHL Vk u)@\ SZ bwx+=. Cbd p2$>,J dh7_%;Aa; 2z$). KZlt 6&'.qA
> > q"$\RUkhs qt^ IMmys!-F8 Ee3% 7@BQkiz4 @| MT lvt &/B BIpu9$.:n<
> / n89>ORhi0" '>HQj d24 -/|Qhm ""@FD Xb1%7[.U Wn m nq" ?Wdr6V eeowG
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> o
> 0 w8-:Do9" .<S bf5("'\]<JVh
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> k/fm3-[b Kg tt2 $>KWVf8 -(BI_ ao%8' GGLq 22&, \U giy%+F .Fjh+; (<\WXkv {@
> \NZh u3({ ; RUp y2~|?LV<

;-)

--
Regards
Stefan

Subject: Re: Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)
From: Chris M. Thomasson
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 21:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)
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On 7/25/2024 1:17 PM, Rich wrote:
> o kw8-:Zo2*/ GJe nr('{AK<JVht
> +
> / S&[< >Qf f6" eq2 ""+'n
> i Y{
> ) Qn0&- ?OR ej% 7: kwSnm&=>K Feg .G*',Zgu9 _*E|Xb2z}p % VVo64(Ah:
> # l8 {#EHL Vk u)@\ SZ bwx+=. Cbd p2$>,J dh7_%;Aa; 2z$). KZlt 6&'.qA
>> q"$\RUkhs qt^ IMmys!-F8 Ee3% 7@BQkiz4 @| MT lvt &/B BIpu9$.:n<
> / n89>ORhi0" '>HQj d24 -/|Qhm ""@FD Xb1%7[.U Wn m nq" ?Wdr6V eeowG
> B :q
> l _DRX0y[S(
> $ Gtq3!.h:
> # ep_(Qa^ ct%4#>C Tky&]
> o
> 0 w8-:Do9" .<S bf5("'\]<JVh
>
> k/fm3-[b Kg tt2 $>KWVf8 -(BI_ ao%8' GGLq 22&, \U giy%+F .Fjh+; (<\WXkv {@
> \NZh u3({ ; RUp y2~|?LV<

Damn! my scos2 impl is on another computer right now. I see a:

Just for fun ... :-)

While gpg has an --enarmor

in there but that was with my decryption using scos1.

If I can only find where Richard posted his SCOS2 source code encrypted
with SCOS1 on google groups. Damn it! Iirc, its buried in some thread.

Subject: Re: Just an encoded (not encrypted) message ... :-)
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On 7/25/2024 1:17 PM, Rich wrote:
> Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> wrote:
>
> scos2 45 12
> o kw8-:Zo2*/ GJe nr('{AK<JVht
> +
> / S&[< >Qf f6" eq2 ""+'n
> i Y{
> ) Qn0&- ?OR ej% 7: kwSnm&=>K Feg .G*',Zgu9 _*E|Xb2z}p % VVo64(Ah:
> # l8 {#EHL Vk u)@\ SZ bwx+=. Cbd p2$>,J dh7_%;Aa; 2z$). KZlt 6&'.qA
>> q"$\RUkhs qt^ IMmys!-F8 Ee3% 7@BQkiz4 @| MT lvt &/B BIpu9$.:n<
> / n89>ORhi0" '>HQj d24 -/|Qhm ""@FD Xb1%7[.U Wn m nq" ?Wdr6V eeowG
> B :q
> l _DRX0y[S(
> $ Gtq3!.h:
> # ep_(Qa^ ct%4#>C Tky&]
> o
> 0 w8-:Do9" .<S bf5("'\]<JVh
>
> k/fm3-[b Kg tt2 $>KWVf8 -(BI_ ao%8' GGLq 22&, \U giy%+F .Fjh+; (<\WXkv {@
> \NZh u3({ ; RUp y2~|?LV<
>
>
If you can find the link where scos2 is I would love it. Btw, here is
the full plaintext I get using scos1 wrt your ciphertext and key:
The password is 45 12:
http://fractallife247.com/test/hmac_cipher/ver_0_0_0_1?ct_hmac_cipher=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