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Subject: Sighting of the moon
From: David Dalton
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From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton)
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Subject: Sighting of the moon
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My latest global new age onset mystic activation attempt
is as mentioned on the thread “Raven and the First Men, revisited”
on alt.religion.druid , in which I relate Raven to the dark moon
that just passed and the Clamshell to the following full moon.

My attempt beginning exactly at dark moon failed, but I am
trying again beginning at earliest waxing crescent, which is
auspicious for new beginnings in paganism and some
other religions. However I cannot sight the moon here
this evening since it is still only at 0.5% and since it
is cloudy here. So I might have to try again on September 5,
which is the three-sunspot-cycle anniversary of my sun stare.
But I always cite the moon. :-)

Anyway, has anyone on here sighted the early waxing crescent
of early September, 2024 yet? If not, post a followup when
you do.

Also I wonder how past primary ootws (Openers of the Way,
who I previously called avatar types) would have been
able to sight the earliest waxing crescent, since like me
they would have been extremely nearsighted but without
glasses (which I discarded before my sun stare, so the
focus formed off my retina, plus it was brief). Maybe
they relied on other(s) to do the sighting?

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her
head to find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (S. McL.)

Subject: Re: Sighting of the moon
From: David Dalton
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From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton)
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Subject: Re: Sighting of the moon
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On Sep 3, 2024, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2C87B060001FEF2870000FB1338F@news.eternal-september.org>):

> My latest global new age onset mystic activation attempt
> is as mentioned on the thread “Raven and the First Men, revisited”
> on alt.religion.druid , in which I relate Raven to the dark moon
> that just passed and the Clamshell to the following full moon.
>
> My attempt beginning exactly at dark moon failed, but I am
> trying again beginning at earliest waxing crescent, which is
> auspicious for new beginnings in paganism and some
> other religions. However I cannot sight the moon here
> this evening since it is still only at 0.5% and since it
> is cloudy here. So I might have to try again on September 5,
> which is the three-sunspot-cycle anniversary of my sun stare.
> But I always cite the moon. :-)
>
> Anyway, has anyone on here sighted the early waxing crescent
> of early September, 2024 yet? If not, post a followup when
> you do.
>
> Also I wonder how past primary ootws (Openers of the Way,
> who I previously called avatar types) would have been
> able to sight the earliest waxing crescent, since like me
> they would have been extremely nearsighted but without
> glasses (which I discarded before my sun stare, so the
> focus formed off my retina, plus it was brief). Maybe
> they relied on other(s) to do the sighting?

It is now 27 hours after dark moon and the moon is 1.2%
waxing crescent. However I doubt it will be sighted before
the evening of September 4.

The Silver Bough thumb

Once in 1997 I thumbed at random a book on Scottish folklore
called The Silver Bough Vol. 1 by F. Marian McNeill. It came
out to a page with this poem on it:

Ri faicinn domh na gealaich uir,
Is duth domh mo shuil a thogail.
Is duth domh ma ghlun a leagail,
Is duth domh mo cheann a bhogadh,

Toir cliu dhuit fein, a re nan iul,
Gum faca mi thu a rithist,
Gum faca mi a ghealach ur,
Ailleagan iuil na slighe.

Is iomadh neach a chaidh a null
Eadar uine an da ghealaich,
Ged tha mise a' mealtainn fuinn,
A re nan re 's nam beannachd!

which translates as:

When I see the new moon,
It becomes me to lift mine eye,
It becomes me to bend my knee,
It becomes me to bow my head.

Giving thee praise, thou moon of guidance,
That I have seen thee again,
That I have seen the new moon,
The lovely leader of the way.

Many a one has passed beyond
In the time between the two moons,
Though I am still enjoying earth,
Thou moon of moons and of blessings!

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her
head to find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (S. McL.)

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On 9/3/24 14:00, David Dalton wrote:
> My latest global new age onset mystic activation attempt
> is as mentioned on the thread “Raven and the First Men, revisited”
> on alt.religion.druid , in which I relate Raven to the dark moon
> that just passed and the Clamshell to the following full moon.
>
> My attempt beginning exactly at dark moon failed, but I am
> trying again beginning at earliest waxing crescent, which is
> auspicious for new beginnings in paganism and some
> other religions. However I cannot sight the moon here
> this evening since it is still only at 0.5% and since it
> is cloudy here. So I might have to try again on September 5,
> which is the three-sunspot-cycle anniversary of my sun stare.
> But I always cite the moon. :-)
>
> Anyway, has anyone on here sighted the early waxing crescent
> of early September, 2024 yet?

No, I have not.
My view is good to the East, and fine overhead.
Poor nearing Western horizon.
With the moon very close in angles to sun,
I will not see it for quite a while.
Good luck with your goals.

I find this site helpful,
https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/usa/seattle

and, among other things, there I read

The sun rose at 6:32am, at 79 degrees

Today's Moon in Seattle
Rise
8:08 am
89°E
Set
8:21 pm
267°W
Percent Illuminated: 2.4%
Time: 10:14 am
Altitude: 19°
Direction: 113°ESE ↑
Position: Moon over horizon
The Moon's path in Seattle today. The horizontal line signifies the
horizon, the vertical lines show times and headings of moonrise and
moonset. The graph defaults to current time. Hover over it to select a
different time. How to use this

Year 2024 Moon Phases

Moon in Seattle - Next 7 days
2024 Moonrise/Moonset Meridian Passing
Sep Moonrise Moonset Moonrise Time Distance (mi) Illumination
Sep 4 8:08 am 8:21 pm - 2:21 pm (41.1°) 252,278 2.9%
Sep 5 9:14 am 8:34 pm - 3:00 pm (35.2°) 252,386 7.1%
Sep 6 10:20 am 8:48 pm - 3:39 pm (29.6°) 251,940 12.9%
Sep 7 11:27 am 9:05 pm - 4:21 pm (24.5°) 250,869 20.1%
Sep 8 12:37 pm 9:26 pm - 5:06 pm (19.9°) 249,119 28.6%
Sep 9 1:48 pm 9:54 pm - 5:54 pm (16.3°) 246,675 38.1%
First Quarter at 11:05 pmSep 10 2:58 pm 10:32 pm - 6:47 pm (13.8°)
243,575 48.3%
* All times are local time for Seattle. Time is adjusted for DST when
applicable. They take into account refraction. Dates are based on the
Gregorian calendar. Illumination is calculated at lunar noon.
See full month's Moon

Moon Articles
What's a Blue Moon?
What's a Super Full Moon?
Is the Moon Upside-Down in the Other Hemisphere?
How Do Moon Phases Work?
What Is Lunar Perigee and Apogee?
Moon Rise/Set Photography Tips
Full Moon Names
Planets Visible in the Sky in Seattle This Coming Night
Planetrise/Planetset, Wed, Sep 4, 2024
Planet Rise Set Meridian Comment
Mercury Wed 4:56 am Wed 7:03 pm Wed 11:59 am Slightly difficult to see
Venus Wed 8:47 am Wed 8:34 pm Wed 2:41 pm Slightly difficult to see
Mars Wed 12:14 am Wed 4:09 pm Wed 8:11 am Average visibility
Jupiter Tue 11:36 pm Wed 3:16 pm Wed 7:26 am Fairly good visibility
Saturn Wed 7:52 pm Thu 6:51 am Thu 1:22 am Perfect visibility
Uranus Tue 10:20 pm Wed 1:25 pm Wed 5:52 am Average visibility
Neptune Wed 8:12 pm Thu 8:02 am Thu 2:07 am Slightly difficult to see
* All times are local time for Seattle.
More about the planets visible in the night sky in Seattle

Need some help?

Subject: Re: Sighting of the moon
From: David Dalton
Newsgroups: sci.astro, alt.astronomy, sci.astro.amateur, uk.sci.astronomy, alt.astrology
Organization: Eternal September
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 21:08 UTC
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From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton)
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Subject: Re: Sighting of the moon
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On Sep 4, 2024, a425couple wrote
(in article <DH0CO.79687$r%Qc.26157@fx10.iad>):

> On 9/3/24 14:00, David Dalton wrote:
> > My latest global new age onset mystic activation attempt
> > is as mentioned on the thread “Raven and the First Men, revisited”
> > on alt.religion.druid , in which I relate Raven to the dark moon
> > that just passed and the Clamshell to the following full moon.
> >
> > My attempt beginning exactly at dark moon failed, but I am
> > trying again beginning at earliest waxing crescent, which is
> > auspicious for new beginnings in paganism and some
> > other religions. However I cannot sight the moon here
> > this evening since it is still only at 0.5% and since it
> > is cloudy here. So I might have to try again on September 5,
> > which is the three-sunspot-cycle anniversary of my sun stare.
> > But I always cite the moon. :-)
> >
> > Anyway, has anyone on here sighted the early waxing crescent
> > of early September, 2024 yet?
>
> No, I have not.
> My view is good to the East, and fine overhead.
> Poor nearing Western horizon.
> With the moon very close in angles to sun,
> I will not see it for quite a while.
> Good luck with your goals.
>
> I find this site helpful,
> https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/usa/seattle
>
> and, among other things, there I read
>
> The sun rose at 6:32am, at 79 degrees
>
> Today's Moon in Seattle
> Rise
> 8:08 am
> 89°E
> Set
> 8:21 pm
> 267°W
> Percent Illuminated: 2.4%
> Time: 10:14 am
> Altitude: 19°
> Direction: 113°ESE ↑
> Position: Moon over horizon
> The Moon's path in Seattle today. The horizontal line signifies the
> horizon, the vertical lines show times and headings of moonrise and
> moonset. The graph defaults to current time. Hover over it to select a
> different time. How to use this
>
> Year 2024 Moon Phases
>
> Moon in Seattle - Next 7 days
> 2024 Moonrise/Moonset Meridian Passing
> Sep Moonrise Moonset Moonrise Time Distance (mi) Illumination
> Sep 4 8:08 am 8:21 pm - 2:21 pm (41.1°) 252,278 2.9%
> Sep 5 9:14 am 8:34 pm - 3:00 pm (35.2°) 252,386 7.1%
> Sep 6 10:20 am 8:48 pm - 3:39 pm (29.6°) 251,940 12.9%
> Sep 7 11:27 am 9:05 pm - 4:21 pm (24.5°) 250,869 20.1%
> Sep 8 12:37 pm 9:26 pm - 5:06 pm (19.9°) 249,119 28.6%
> Sep 9 1:48 pm 9:54 pm - 5:54 pm (16.3°) 246,675 38.1%
> First Quarter at 11:05 pmSep 10 2:58 pm 10:32 pm - 6:47 pm (13.8°)
> 243,575 48.3%
> * All times are local time for Seattle. Time is adjusted for DST when
> applicable. They take into account refraction. Dates are based on the
> Gregorian calendar. Illumination is calculated at lunar noon.
> See full month's Moon
>
> Moon Articles
> What's a Blue Moon?
> What's a Super Full Moon?
> Is the Moon Upside-Down in the Other Hemisphere?
> How Do Moon Phases Work?
> What Is Lunar Perigee and Apogee?
> Moon Rise/Set Photography Tips
> Full Moon Names
> Planets Visible in the Sky in Seattle This Coming Night
> Planetrise/Planetset, Wed, Sep 4, 2024
> Planet Rise Set Meridian Comment
> Mercury Wed 4:56 am Wed 7:03 pm Wed 11:59 am Slightly difficult to see
> Venus Wed 8:47 am Wed 8:34 pm Wed 2:41 pm Slightly difficult to see
> Mars Wed 12:14 am Wed 4:09 pm Wed 8:11 am Average visibility
> Jupiter Tue 11:36 pm Wed 3:16 pm Wed 7:26 am Fairly good visibility
> Saturn Wed 7:52 pm Thu 6:51 am Thu 1:22 am Perfect visibility
> Uranus Tue 10:20 pm Wed 1:25 pm Wed 5:52 am Average visibility
> Neptune Wed 8:12 pm Thu 8:02 am Thu 2:07 am Slightly difficult to see
> * All times are local time for Seattle.
> More about the planets visible in the night sky in Seattle
>
> Need some help?

According to a news.google.com search for
sighting of the moon
it was sighted in Hyderabad (or nearby) on September 4,
but was not sighted in Islamabad (or nearby) so they
anticipate a sighting of September 5 there.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her
head to find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (S. McL.)

Subject: Re: Sighting of the moon
From: David Dalton
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On Sep 3, 2024, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2C87B060001FEF2870000FB1338F@news.eternal-september.org>):

> My latest global new age onset mystic activation attempt
> is as mentioned on the thread “Raven and the First Men, revisited”
> on alt.religion.druid , in which I relate Raven to the dark moon
> that just passed and the Clamshell to the following full moon.
>
> My attempt beginning exactly at dark moon failed, but I am
> trying again beginning at earliest waxing crescent, which is
> auspicious for new beginnings in paganism and some
> other religions. However I cannot sight the moon here
> this evening since it is still only at 0.5% and since it
> is cloudy here. So I might have to try again on September 5,
> which is the three-sunspot-cycle anniversary of my sun stare.
> But I always cite the moon. :-)
>
> Anyway, has anyone on here sighted the early waxing crescent
> of early September, 2024 yet? If not, post a followup when
> you do.
>
> Also I wonder how past primary ootws (Openers of the Way,
> who I previously called avatar types) would have been
> able to sight the earliest waxing crescent, since like me
> they would have been extremely nearsighted but without
> glasses (which I discarded before my sun stare, so the
> focus formed off my retina, plus it was brief). Maybe
> they relied on other(s) to do the sighting?

It seems my workings could not begin at dark moon but
instead after my first local sighting of the waxing crescent.

I viewed the waxing crescent for the first time this lunar month at
exactly sunset, 7:30 p.m. NDT (2200 UTC/GMT) September 6, 2024,
almost four days after the exact time of new (dark) moon.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her
head to find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (S. McL.)

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