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Subject: Re: A word about evidence
From: JTEM
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Subject: Re: A word about evidence
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JTEM wrote:
> I'm going to take a moment here to explain one of
> my issues with the bible crowd, and I will try my
> best to do it with a little maturity and not a lot of
> insults.
> Anyhow, this recent example typifies the issue with
> evidence, and how many (if not "most") of the people
> here don't even know what is or is not relevant to a
> question...
> First, Larry Swain aka "Weland" said:
> :It can be read as "ysra3r" because that is what it says.
> To which I responded by point out...
> : :Speaking of counting issues: There are seven (7) signs
> : :which make up the word, plus a literal mark and
> : :determinatives, not your six (6).
> Now here's the problem:
> :> So transliterate it for us young JStupid.
> Why? Because if I don't then one of the signs will vanish,
> leaving only your six?
> Why not challenge me to balance a glass a water on my
> head, or eat a banana in one bite? Either one would be
> just as relevant to the point under discussion, just as
> telling.
> > Show us what image you are transliterating from and
> > what exactly you are transliterating.
> Now this makes slightly more sense, so long as you're
> going to claim that there's more than one version of the
> hieroglyphs.
> Only, if there was more than one version of the text,
> wouldn't that be evidence for forgery?
> Oddly, there are two. One is so fragmentary that you
> could barely squeeze out a couple of door stops from
> the pieces (even more fragmentary then the "Mesha
> Stele"), and the other is some poor quality scratches
> on the back of an older stele.
> Is that what Larry means? He wants to know which of
> the two steles I'm referring to?
> Well, the "intact" one.
> But in case that's not what he means, take your pick:
> http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=%22victory%20stele%22%20merneptah&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
> I just randomly clicked on a number of them, and not
> one depicted less than 7 signs plus a literal mark and
> determinatives.
> Does Larry Swain aka Weland not have internet access?
> Is that it? He was not capable of performing a rudimentary
> Google search on his own?
> Even stranger: What if I was like Larry and couldn't
> perform rudimentary searches either? Would that be
> "Proof" that one of the signs vanished, leaving only his
> six?
> Sorry, but even what at it's face might be mistaken for
> a reasonable challenge is itself another irrelevant
> demand.

All the links are expired so:

ajsrjAr(w)

That's how "Israel" is transliterated. It's actually the very first
transliteration I recall seeing.

https://www.academia.edu/63556549/Israel_and_the_Merneptah_Stela

Nutters will love the cite as it appears to confirm their bias,
even as their transliteration shatters it.

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