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Subject: Retro Guy, could you redirect traffic from usenet group to Google Group via emai
From: darius
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: novaBBS
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 11:53 UTC
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: manta103g@gmail.com (darius)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Retro Guy, could you redirect traffic from usenet group to Google Group via
emai
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 11:53:03 +0000
Organization: novaBBS
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Just have a look

https://www.novabbs.com/interests/thread.php?group=soc.culture.polish

hosted by novabbs

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish

hosted by Google Groups in the past

the same group, created as ne Google Group, generating low traffic

https://groups.google.com/g/socculturepolish1

Could you redirect traffic from

https://www.novabbs.com/interests/thread.php?group=soc.culture.polish

to

https://groups.google.com/g/socculturepolish1

to make some older guys happy ?

new Google Grops (non-usenet groups)
still come with email contact

for writing and reading the posts

I don't operate usenet server to set up such gateway:

Usenet < > Google Group

Let me know your opinion

Subject: Re: Retro Guy, could you redirect traffic from usenet group to Google Group via emai
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 12:20 UTC
References: 1
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: Retro Guy, could you redirect traffic from usenet group to Google Group
via emai
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 12:20:29 +0000
Organization: Rocksolid Light
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 11:53:03 +0000, darius wrote:

> Just have a look
> https://www.novabbs.com/interests/thread.php?group=soc.culture.polish
> hosted by novabbs
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish
> hosted by Google Groups in the past
>
> the same group, created as ne Google Group, generating low traffic
> https://groups.google.com/g/socculturepolish1
>
> Could you redirect traffic from
> https://www.novabbs.com/interests/thread.php?group=soc.culture.polish
> to
> https://groups.google.com/g/socculturepolish1
> to make some older guys happy ?

I never used google groups, and have no interest in interoperating with
them. They have not contributed to Usenet in a positive way, then
allowed over 100,000 spam posts per day originating from them into
Usenet, then blamed "spam" for one of the reasons to disconnect from
Usenet, making it appear that the problem came IN from Usenet, not OUT
via Google. I have no interest in Google Groups, and I do not use Google
for anything else for years now.

> I don't operate usenet server to set up such gateway:
> Usenet < > Google Group
> Let me know your opinion

Google Groups is dead. "is no more", "has ceased to be", "bereft of
life, it rests in peace", and "is an ex-forum" (See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Parrot_sketch for further info)

--
Retro Guy

Subject: Re: Retro Guy, could you redirect traffic from usenet group to Google Group via emai
From: darius
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: novaBBS
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 12:36 UTC
References: 1 2
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: manta103g@gmail.com (darius)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: Retro Guy, could you redirect traffic from usenet group to Google Group
via emai
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 12:36:12 +0000
Organization: novaBBS
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Ok, Usenet Google Groups are dead as closed by Google

but Google Groups are still operational
and can be created, read, posted

https://groups.google.com/g/socculturepolish1

Since usenet groups can be read, posted via email interface

all I need is to keep

https://groups.google.com/g/socculturepolish1

cc:

with traffic from

usenet soc.culture.polish group

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish

was live usenet group, hosted via Google Groups

and spam was not generated

Subject: Re: Retro Guy, could you redirect traffic from usenet group to Google Group via emai
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 13:32 UTC
References: 1 2 3
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: Retro Guy, could you redirect traffic from usenet group to Google Group via emai
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 06:32:11 -0700
Organization: Rocksolid Light
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 12:36:12 +0000, darius wrote:

> Ok, Usenet Google Groups are dead as closed by Google
>
> but Google Groups are still operational
> and can be created, read, posted
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/socculturepolish1
>
>
>
> Since usenet groups can be read, posted via email interface
>
> all I need is to keep
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/socculturepolish1
>
> cc:
>
> with traffic from
>
> usenet soc.culture.polish group
>
>
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish
>
> was live usenet group, hosted via Google Groups
>
> and spam was not generated

The ability exists for users of that group to use the Usenet group, either
by newsreader, or website. This exists now. If they can't be bothered to do
that, it is their issue.

Google has already indicated that they do not want to be linked to Usenet,
so who am I to link them to Usenet. It's like asking Facebook to forward
their posts to Twitter, why would they do that? Maybe someone external has
a script to do that, but Facebook isn't going to do it afaik.

Google Groups is now simply a forum site at Google. They have intentionally
disconnected from the rest of the world.

Subject: Re: Retro Guy, could you redirect traffic from usenet group to Google Group via emai
From: darius
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: novaBBS
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 18:01 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: manta103g@gmail.com (darius)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: Retro Guy, could you redirect traffic from usenet group to Google Group
via emai
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 18:01:34 +0000
Organization: novaBBS
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I can't speak in the name of Google,

but if you host thousands of usenet groups

and fire the last moderator

you kill good name of DejaNews, acquired by Google in the past

Subject: Re: Retro Guy, could you redirect traffic from usenet group to Google Group via emai
From: SugarBug
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: To protect and to server
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 01:26 UTC
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From: 3883@sugar.bug (SugarBug)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: Retro Guy, could you redirect traffic from usenet group to
Google Group via emai
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 01:26:44 -0000
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 12:20:29 +0000
Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Google Groups is dead. "is no more", "has ceased to be", "bereft of
> life, it rests in peace", and "is an ex-forum" (See:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Parrot_sketch for further info)

Sir, the cryptonymous Knights of NIH* salute your sage saying.

I should urge them to plant a shrubbery in your honor.

See here:
https://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2024-May/038350.html

And here:
https://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2024-May/038346.html

The characters of Cleese can requite every shrewish importunity.

* NIH = 'Not Invented Here'

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Subject: Re: Retro Guy, could you redirect traffic from usenet group to Google Group via emai
From: Schlomo Goldberg
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: AmigaXess
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 20:26 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5
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From: schlomo.goldberg@mailinator.com (Schlomo Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: Retro Guy, could you redirect traffic from usenet group to Google Group via emai
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manta103g@gmail.com (darius) writes:

> I can't speak in the name of Google,
>
> but if you host thousands of usenet groups
>
> and fire the last moderator
>
> you kill good name of DejaNews, acquired by Google in the past

That was done long, long time ago.

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