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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (2)
From: Anonymous
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Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 05:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (2)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 05:10:09 +0000
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page 2. Not sure the pages are really in order.

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Subject: The Antifa Handbook (1)
From: Anonymous
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Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 05:09 UTC
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Subject: The Antifa Handbook (1)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 05:09:14 +0000
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Dropping these here in case anyone wants to read them.

I'll post one per message (total 7) or I don't think they'll post.

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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (4)
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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (4)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 05:11:51 +0000
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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (7)
From: Anonymous
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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (7)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 05:14:22 +0000
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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (6)
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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (6)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2022 05:13:27 +0000
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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (3)
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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (3)
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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (5)
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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (5)
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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (1)
From: Marco
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Am 25.12.2022 um 05:09:14 Uhr schrieb Anonymous:

> Dropping these here in case anyone wants to read them.
>
> I'll post one per message (total 7) or I don't think they'll post.

I've read some pages of it, but I don't understand why I should read
further. There isn't any useful content in it. :-)

Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (1)
From: Anonymous
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that shit has nothing to do with the anitfa movement that I know. Reads like something coming out of Donalds ass.

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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (1)
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Am 28.12.2022 um 13:37:19 Uhr schrieb Anonymous:

> that shit has nothing to do with the anitfa movement that I know.
> Reads like something coming out of Donalds ass.

What is the content of the antifa movement in your opinion?

Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (1)
From: Anonymous
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 15:35 UTC
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>What is the content of the antifa movement in your opinion?

Why, in the broadest sense to fight against the raise of fascism in all its forms and shapes.
This can mean very different things, of course, depending on time, place, the actors involved and so on.

One thing it certainly doesn't mean is to support some kind of world government, like it says on page 7 of this thing.

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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (1)
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truly i miss that antifa

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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (1)
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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (1)
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Anonymous wrote:

> truly i miss that antifa

In what ways has antifa changed?

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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (1)
From: Anonymous
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From: Anonymous@news.novabbs.org (Anonymous)
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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (1)
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read the thread mate

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/infiltration-co-opting-of-radical-movements-tickets-236172156277

today its "white supremacists" yesterday it was "antifa"

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/09/21/antifa-wants-to-overthrow-our-government-terrorism-expert-says

and they seam to be coming back around again to hit their own socket puppets against each other

story old as civilisation

im curious which antifas are just organic antifacist and which were initially started as controlled opposition not coopted later on

i know ones that spur out of necessity like neoauf are just antifacist and making progress of removing fascism from a society but they quickly get coopted back into the government then fade into irrelevance until they need to be used again either as a socket puppet for control or out of necessity to remove fascism

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Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (1)
From: Borax Man
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On 2023-01-03, Anonymous <Anonymous@news.novabbs.org> wrote:
> read the thread mate
>
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/infiltration-co-opting-of-radical-movements-tickets-236172156277
>
> today its "white supremacists" yesterday it was "antifa"
>
> https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/09/21/antifa-wants-to-overthrow-our-government-terrorism-expert-says
>
> and they seam to be coming back around again to hit their own socket puppets against each other
>
> story old as civilisation
>
> im curious which antifas are just organic antifacist and which were initially started as controlled opposition not coopted later on
>
> i know ones that spur out of necessity like neoauf are just antifacist and making progress of removing fascism from a society but they quickly get coopted back into the government then fade into irrelevance until they need to be used again either as a socket puppet for control or out of necessity to remove fascism
>

Antifa are tools of oppression, and their only defense is "dur, were
against fascism, its in our name!", which is a dumb argument. North
Korea must be democratic then, because thats in their name too.

They don't actually fight fascism, they just are street thugs who have
taken the name of an old, and perhaps back then, very different
orgasation. They are, by their actions, pretty much just a domestic
terrorist group.

If they WERE antifascist, they'd be going against the system of mass
surveillance, of global capital, going against the governments
increasing power, but they don't do that, they just pick fights with
working class people who don't adopt woke values.

Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (1)
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Absolutely.

Subject: Re: The Antifa Handbook (1)
From: Retro Guy
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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
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On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 2:22:43 +0000, Borax Man wrote:

> On 2023-01-03, Anonymous <Anonymous@news.novabbs.org> wrote:
>> read the thread mate
>>
>> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/infiltration-co-opting-of-radical-movements-tickets-236172156277
>>
>> today its "white supremacists" yesterday it was "antifa"
>>
>> https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/09/21/antifa-wants-to-overthrow-our-government-terrorism-expert-says
>>
>> and they seam to be coming back around again to hit their own socket
>> puppets against each other
>>
>> story old as civilisation
>>
>> im curious which antifas are just organic antifacist and which were
>> initially started as controlled opposition not coopted later on
>>
>> i know ones that spur out of necessity like neoauf are just antifacist
>> and making progress of removing fascism from a society but they quickly
>> get coopted back into the government then fade into irrelevance until
>> they need to be used again either as a socket puppet for control or out
>> of necessity to remove fascism
>>
>
>
> Antifa are tools of oppression, and their only defense is "dur, were
> against fascism, its in our name!", which is a dumb argument. North
> Korea must be democratic then, because thats in their name too.
>
> They don't actually fight fascism, they just are street thugs who have
> taken the name of an old, and perhaps back then, very different
> orgasation. They are, by their actions, pretty much just a domestic
> terrorist group.
>
> If they WERE antifascist, they'd be going against the system of mass
> surveillance, of global capital, going against the governments
> increasing power, but they don't do that, they just pick fights with
> working class people who don't adopt woke values.

Can't argue with a single word of that.

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