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Subject: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log
From: Marco Moock
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Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 08:02 UTC

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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
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Subject: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log
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Hello!

Another thing I noticed in the new version:

The nocems are being process and matching articles are found, but no
delete line anymore. Is that also a change?

Apr 11 07:51:35 rocksolid FOUND: de.rec.sport.misc IN: rocksolid
Apr 11 07:51:35 spoolnews TRYING: <4f6ac360-7@712-464a-b475-187fb

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Subject: Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log
From: Retro Guy
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 10:02:17 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:

> Hello!
>
> Another thing I noticed in the new version:
>
> The nocems are being process and matching articles are found, but no
> delete line anymore. Is that also a change?
>
> Apr 11 07:51:35 rocksolid FOUND: de.rec.sport.misc IN: rocksolid
> Apr 11 07:51:35 spoolnews TRYING: <4f6ac360-7@712-464a-b475-187fb

Are the articles actually deleted?

I may have removed that logging entry by error, I will check.

Subject: Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log
From: Retro Guy
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 15:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log
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Retro Guy wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 10:02:17 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:

>> Hello!
>>
>> Another thing I noticed in the new version:
>>
>> The nocems are being process and matching articles are found, but no
>> delete line anymore. Is that also a change?
>>
>> Apr 11 07:51:35 rocksolid FOUND: de.rec.sport.misc IN: rocksolid
>> Apr 11 07:51:35 spoolnews TRYING: <4f6ac360-7@712-464a-b475-187fb

> Are the articles actually deleted?

> I may have removed that logging entry by error, I will check.

It appears to be working here:
Apr 10 13:35:04 computers DELETING: <e80b49b84ba1c85effeae26ba2186f7c@www.rocksolidbbs.com> IN: alt.comp.freeware

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Subject: Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log
From: Marco Moock
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 18:12 UTC
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Subject: Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log
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On 11.04.2024 um 15:49 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:

> It appears to be working here:
> Apr 10 13:35:04 computers DELETING:
> <e80b49b84ba1c85effeae26ba2186f7c@www.rocksolidbbs.com> IN:
> alt.comp.freeware

Doesn't show up in my log. How can I further diagnose that?
Does it work for the MsgID I posted at your setup?

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Subject: Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:12:25 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:

> On 11.04.2024 um 15:49 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>
>> It appears to be working here:
>> Apr 10 13:35:04 computers DELETING:
>> <e80b49b84ba1c85effeae26ba2186f7c@www.rocksolidbbs.com> IN:
>> alt.comp.freeware
>
> Doesn't show up in my log. How can I further diagnose that?
> Does it work for the MsgID I posted at your setup?

I don't see that msgid anywhere:

Apr 11 07:51:35 rocksolid FOUND: de.rec.sport.misc IN: rocksolid
Apr 11 07:51:35 spoolnews TRYING: <4f6ac360-7@712-464a-b475-187fb

Is it a complete msgid? There's no closing bracket.

What can happen is if a partial msgid is attempted, it can be "FOUND"
because the string matches part of a msgid in the database, but when it
tries to delete it, it's not the entire msgid so delete fails.

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Subject: Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log
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Am 11.04.2024 schrieb Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com>:

> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:12:25 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:
>
> > On 11.04.2024 um 15:49 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
> >
> >> It appears to be working here:
> >> Apr 10 13:35:04 computers DELETING:
> >> <e80b49b84ba1c85effeae26ba2186f7c@www.rocksolidbbs.com> IN:
> >> alt.comp.freeware
> >
> > Doesn't show up in my log. How can I further diagnose that?
> > Does it work for the MsgID I posted at your setup?
>
> I don't see that msgid anywhere:
>
> Apr 11 07:51:35 rocksolid FOUND: de.rec.sport.misc IN: rocksolid
> Apr 11 07:51:35 spoolnews TRYING: <4f6ac360-7@712-464a-b475-187fb
>
> Is it a complete msgid? There's no closing bracket.
>
> What can happen is if a partial msgid is attempted, it can be "FOUND"
> because the string matches part of a msgid in the database, but when
> it tries to delete it, it's not the entire msgid so delete fails.

It seems this was just line wrapping in the terminal.

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Apr 11 07:42:55 rocksolid FOUND: de.rec.sport.misc IN: rocksolid

The strange thing is that it says found, but if I enter the ID in the
search box, it won't find it (others work).

Subject: Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 11:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log
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Marco Moock wrote:

> Am 11.04.2024 schrieb Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com>:

>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:12:25 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:
>>
>> > On 11.04.2024 um 15:49 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>> >
>> >> It appears to be working here:
>> >> Apr 10 13:35:04 computers DELETING:
>> >> <e80b49b84ba1c85effeae26ba2186f7c@www.rocksolidbbs.com> IN:
>> >> alt.comp.freeware
>> >
>> > Doesn't show up in my log. How can I further diagnose that?
>> > Does it work for the MsgID I posted at your setup?
>>
>> I don't see that msgid anywhere:
>>
>> Apr 11 07:51:35 rocksolid FOUND: de.rec.sport.misc IN: rocksolid
>> Apr 11 07:51:35 spoolnews TRYING: <4f6ac360-7@712-464a-b475-187fb
>>
>> Is it a complete msgid? There's no closing bracket.
>>
>> What can happen is if a partial msgid is attempted, it can be "FOUND"
>> because the string matches part of a msgid in the database, but when
>> it tries to delete it, it's not the entire msgid so delete fails.

> It seems this was just line wrapping in the terminal.

> Apr 11 07:42:55 spoolnews Good Issuer and Type for: mm+nocem@dorfdsl.de[2024.04.10.18.58.00]VCoWya
> Apr 11 07:42:55 spoolnews Good signature in: mm+nocem@dorfdsl.de[2024.04.10.18.58.00]VCoWya
> Apr 11 07:42:55 spoolnews TRYING: <ec6e070b-3@f57-465b-b201-2f0dddc5b755> IN: de.rec.sport.misc
> Apr 11 07:42:55 rocksolid FOUND: de.rec.sport.misc IN: rocksolid
> Apr 11 07:42:55 spoolnews TRYING: <59c2d3e2-5@11e-4806-a258-68d1fae55932> IN: de.rec.sport.misc
> Apr 11 07:42:55 rocksolid FOUND: de.rec.sport.misc IN: rocksolid

> The strange thing is that it says found, but if I enter the ID in the
> search box, it won't find it (others work).

Looking more closely at the code (yes, I know that I wrote it lol), all that FOUND means is that it FOUND the group.name in SECTION. Not that it FOUND the article.

I should probably just remove that log entry. I most likely put it there during testing.

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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
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Subject: Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log
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Retro Guy wrote:

> Marco Moock wrote:

>> Am 11.04.2024 schrieb Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com>:

>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:12:25 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 11.04.2024 um 15:49 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> It appears to be working here:
>>> >> Apr 10 13:35:04 computers DELETING:
>>> >> <e80b49b84ba1c85effeae26ba2186f7c@www.rocksolidbbs.com> IN:
>>> >> alt.comp.freeware
>>> >
>>> > Doesn't show up in my log. How can I further diagnose that?
>>> > Does it work for the MsgID I posted at your setup?
>>>
>>> I don't see that msgid anywhere:
>>>
>>> Apr 11 07:51:35 rocksolid FOUND: de.rec.sport.misc IN: rocksolid
>>> Apr 11 07:51:35 spoolnews TRYING: <4f6ac360-7@712-464a-b475-187fb
>>>
>>> Is it a complete msgid? There's no closing bracket.
>>>
>>> What can happen is if a partial msgid is attempted, it can be "FOUND"
>>> because the string matches part of a msgid in the database, but when
>>> it tries to delete it, it's not the entire msgid so delete fails.

>> It seems this was just line wrapping in the terminal.

>> Apr 11 07:42:55 spoolnews Good Issuer and Type for: mm+nocem@dorfdsl.de[2024.04.10.18.58.00]VCoWya
>> Apr 11 07:42:55 spoolnews Good signature in: mm+nocem@dorfdsl.de[2024.04.10.18.58.00]VCoWya
>> Apr 11 07:42:55 spoolnews TRYING: <ec6e070b-3@f57-465b-b201-2f0dddc5b755> IN: de.rec.sport.misc
>> Apr 11 07:42:55 rocksolid FOUND: de.rec.sport.misc IN: rocksolid
>> Apr 11 07:42:55 spoolnews TRYING: <59c2d3e2-5@11e-4806-a258-68d1fae55932> IN: de.rec.sport.misc
>> Apr 11 07:42:55 rocksolid FOUND: de.rec.sport.misc IN: rocksolid

>> The strange thing is that it says found, but if I enter the ID in the
>> search box, it won't find it (others work).

> Looking more closely at the code (yes, I know that I wrote it lol), all that FOUND means is that it FOUND the group.name in SECTION. Not that it FOUND the article.

> I should probably just remove that log entry. I most likely put it there during testing.

And to actually try to answer your question, since FOUND is just that it found the group, when you try to use the search box to find it and it's not found, it's most likely NOT on the site.

It may have been deleted, or more likely it never existed on the site. So, if you ignore FOUND, it might make more sense now.

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Subject	Author
nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log	Marco Moock
Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log	Retro Guy
Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log	Retro Guy
Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log	Marco Moock
Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log	Retro Guy
Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log	Marco Moock
Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log	Retro Guy
Re: nocem articles found, but no deleted line in log	Retro Guy