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Subject: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far
From: darius
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Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 18:42 UTC

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From: manta103g@gmail.com (darius)
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Subject: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far
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Old Usenet Google Groups have been indexed by internet search engines

Posting usenet groups via novaBBS, messages don't get indexed,
making them not searchable via internet search engines

What makes internet search engines to block and lock novaBBS ?

Subject: Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far
From: Retro Guy
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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
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Subject: Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far
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darius wrote:

> Old Usenet Google Groups have been indexed by internet search engines

Ok.

> Posting usenet groups via novaBBS, messages don't get indexed,
> making them not searchable via internet search engines

Nice!

> What makes internet search engines to block and lock novaBBS ?

Luck?

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Retro Guy

Subject: Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far
From: Marco Moock
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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
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On 19.05.2024 um 18:42 Uhr darius wrote:

> Old Usenet Google Groups have been indexed by internet search engines
>
> Posting usenet groups via novaBBS, messages don't get indexed,
> making them not searchable via internet search engines
>
> What makes internet search engines to block and lock novaBBS ?

They index articles.
https://4get.psily.garden/web?s=site%3Anovabbs.org+marco&scraper=ddg&nsfw=yes

https://www.google.de/search?q=%3Fsite%3Adorfdsl.de+linux&sca_esv=56c1cc000332f016&ei=oFJKZsv2Hrudi-gP3deIqAM&ved=0ahUKEwjLxqaauZqGAxW7zgIHHd0rAjUQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=%3Fsite%3Adorfdsl.de+linux&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiFj9zaXRlOmRvcmZkc2wuZGUgbGludXhI3hJQxAhYpA9wAXgAkAEAmAE0oAGWAqoBATa4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgCgAgCYAwCIBgGSBwCgB44C&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#ip=1

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Marco

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Subject: Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far
From: darius
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This thread:

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1149&group=rocksolid.nodes.help#1149

has not been indexed by Google

https://www.google.de/search?q=%22Thank+you+Retro+Guy+for+your+excellent+job+done+so+far%22

No results found for "Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so
far".

So IT programming discussions on usenet don't build searcheable
knowledge databases
as opposite to
stackoverflow.com

Time of Usenet Google Groups, indexed by Google, is over

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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
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Subject: Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far
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darius wrote:

> This thread:

> https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1149&group=rocksolid.nodes.help#1149
> has not been indexed by Google

> https://www.google.de/search?q=%22Thank+you+Retro+Guy+for+your+excellent+job+done+so+far%22

> No results found for "Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done
> so
> far".

> So IT programming discussions on usenet don't build searcheable
> knowledge databases
> as opposite to
> stackoverflow.com

> Time of Usenet Google Groups, indexed by Google, is over

I don't think Google has ever indexed www.novabbs.com.

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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
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On 20.05.2024 um 18:06 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:

> I don't think Google has ever indexed www.novabbs.com.

I see results from it in the search.

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awww.novabbs.com&sca_esv=75ce3f1a0c12c434&ei=i6BLZr7PDceX9u8PwPmW4A0&ved=0ahUKEwj-wNHT95yGAxXHi_0HHcC8BdwQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=site%3Awww.novabbs.com&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiFHNpdGU6d3d3Lm5vdmFiYnMuY29tSPIMUMgIWNoLcAF4AJABAJgBRqAB4AGqAQE0uAEDyAEA-AEBmAIAoAIAmAMAiAYBkgcAoAe0AQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
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Marco Moock wrote:

> On 20.05.2024 um 18:06 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:

>> I don't think Google has ever indexed www.novabbs.com.

> I see results from it in the search.

Oh, I stand corrected :)

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Subject: Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far
From: UFO
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 21:52 UTC
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Ditto, excellent work.

Couple of questions - this feed seems to have died
a while ago, no more action?

https://www.novabbs.com/tech/thread.php?group=sci.electronics.repair

Also what of possible integration to a groups.io group?
In this case I made one to reflect that feed years ago
but since it was spammy I never thought it was worth the effort.

https://groups.io/g/Sci-Electronics-Repair

With Google dropping them now, its a new opportunity
to maybe offer the feed to post messages to the group,
then maybe a reply option but I think groups.io would have
to have some kind of NNTP integration on their side?

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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
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Subject: Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far
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UFO wrote:

> Ditto, excellent work.

> Couple of questions - this feed seems to have died
> a while ago, no more action?

> https://www.novabbs.com/tech/thread.php?group=sci.electronics.repair

It looks lime maybe May 5 is the latest articles there.

> Also what of possible integration to a groups.io group?
> In this case I made one to reflect that feed years ago
> but since it was spammy I never thought it was worth the effort.

> https://groups.io/g/Sci-Electronics-Repair

> With Google dropping them now, its a new opportunity
> to maybe offer the feed to post messages to the group,
> then maybe a reply option but I think groups.io would have
> to have some kind of NNTP integration on their side?

Yes, they would need to communicate their messages. I doubt they want to
do that, as it looks more like a for profit business (no problem with
that, but why would they share?)

I was never a user of Google Groups, and have only learned what people
liked and disliked about it on Usenet. It has never been my intention to
replace GG, or become a clone of GG.

I would like to stick with a web based news client that tries to
maintain Usenet standards :)

--
Retro Guy

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>> https://www.novabbs.com/tech/thread.php?group=sci.electronics.repair
>
> It looks lime maybe May 5 is the latest articles there.

I tried to post a reply to one of the latest messages, it seems to have
disappeared
at that same time.

> Yes, they would need to communicate their messages. I doubt they want to
> do that, as it looks more like a for profit business (no problem with
> that, but why would they share?)

They are the replacement for Yahoo groups, doin a better job than they did
so far.
There is a pay/donate option, but you get a lot for free.

Since that NG feed seems dead, sorta solves the idea for now by default I
guess.

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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
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Subject: Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far
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UFO wrote:

>>> https://www.novabbs.com/tech/thread.php?group=sci.electronics.repair
>>
>> It looks lime maybe May 5 is the latest articles there.

> I tried to post a reply to one of the latest messages, it seems to have
>
> disappeared
> at that same time.

This is the last article I see from you there:
<v1b577$8jre$1@i2pn2.org>

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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
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Subject: Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far
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darius wrote:

> This thread:

> https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1149&group=rocksolid.nodes.help#1149

> has not been indexed by Google

WHy is the site suddenly being crawled by Googlebot? I can see in the
logs a sudden major start of crawling activity in the past 24 hours.

Did someone submit the site to Google to be crawled? I did not.

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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
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On 31.05.2024 um 23:19 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:

> WHy is the site suddenly being crawled by Googlebot? I can see in the
> logs a sudden major start of crawling activity in the past 24 hours.

I saw articles index weeks ago from your site on Google.
Maybe they are tracking me and presenting me other stuff than you. :-)

Indeed, stuff is missing and not every article seems to be indexed.

Use this term for the search engines:
site:novabbs.org moock

And then check for example:
https://news.novabbs.org/computers/thread.php?group=comp.mail.sendmail

Much more posts from me on the site, but not indexed by Google.

DDG has much more indexed.
Although, if I use 4get to do a proxy search to DDG, it is only shown
when NSFW is turned off.
https://4get.ca/web?s=site%3Anovabbs.org+moock&scraper=ddg&nsfw=no

Yandex has even less indexed.

Bing indexes much more:
https://www.bing.com/search?form=&q=site%3Anovabbs.org+moock%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A&form=QBLH

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Marco Moock wrote:

> On 31.05.2024 um 23:19 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:

>> WHy is the site suddenly being crawled by Googlebot? I can see in the
>> logs a sudden major start of crawling activity in the past 24 hours.

> I saw articles index weeks ago from your site on Google.
> Maybe they are tracking me and presenting me other stuff than you. :-)

> Indeed, stuff is missing and not every article seems to be indexed.

> Use this term for the search engines:
> site:novabbs.org moock

> And then check for example:
> https://news.novabbs.org/computers/thread.php?group=comp.mail.sendmail

> Much more posts from me on the site, but not indexed by Google.

> DDG has much more indexed.
> Although, if I use 4get to do a proxy search to DDG, it is only shown
> when NSFW is turned off.
> https://4get.ca/web?s=site%3Anovabbs.org+moock&scraper=ddg&nsfw=no

> Yandex has even less indexed.

> Bing indexes much more:
> https://www.bing.com/search?form=&q=site%3Anovabbs.org+moock%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A&form=QBLH

I have monitored crawlers for quite a while (and block most) and yes,
Bing is quite active in my logs. I also see a good amount of Yandex, but
always has been very little Google. But suddenly Google is by far the
most active crawler of the site.

It's the sudden and extreme change that caught my attention.

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On 01.06.2024 um 10:13 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:

> I have monitored crawlers for quite a while (and block most) and yes,

Does something change if you don't block them?

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On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 12:43:30 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:

> On 01.06.2024 um 10:13 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>
>> I have monitored crawlers for quite a while (and block most) and yes,
>
> Does something change if you don't block them?

The ones that I block are still logged, just not allowed to crawl the site.

Stuff like Semrushbot and similar.

I have not blocked Google, Bing or Yandex at all, but Google never showed
up much in the logs. Not it's suddenly very active the past couple of days.

BOFH excuse #309: firewall needs cooling

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Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	darius
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	Retro Guy
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	Marco Moock
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	darius
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	Retro Guy
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	Marco Moock
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	Retro Guy
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	UFO
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	Retro Guy
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	UFO
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	Retro Guy
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	Retro Guy
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	Marco Moock
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	Retro Guy
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	Marco Moock
Re: Thank you Retro Guy for your excellent job done so far	Retro Guy