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Subject: Old Usent articles (80s)
From: Retro Guy
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From: retro.guy@rocksolidbbs.com (Retro Guy)
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I've been working on getting some old Usenet posts online, and finally have some complete.

I have the net.* hierarchy from the 1980s up and available and plan to continue with other hierarchies as I have the time.

This takes a while as the headers of articles this old need to be modified to be accepted by inn2, but with some work, and some suggestions from Julien ÉLIE it's working.

You can view these articles with a newsreader at news.novalink.us:119

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Subject: Re: Old Usent articles (80s)
From: Miner
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2023 14:13 UTC
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Retro Guy wrote:

> I've been working on getting some old Usenet posts online, and
> finally have some complete.

Who is there supply you with old posts?

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Subject: Re: Old Usent articles (80s)
From: Retro Guy
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Miner wrote:

> Retro Guy wrote:

>> I've been working on getting some old Usenet posts online, and
>> finally have some complete.

> Who is there supply you with old posts?

I grabbed them from archive.org a while ago before they were forced
to take it down (zip file). https://archive.org/details/utzoo-wiseman-usenet-archive

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Subject: Re: Old Usent articles (80s)
From: Anonymous
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>This takes a while as the headers of articles this old need to be modified to be accepted by inn2

Was some specification changed back then or is this just specific to how inn2 wants the headers?

>I grabbed them from archive.org a while ago before they were forced to take it down

Any idea which messages they wanted to redact and why? Now I want a copy too.

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Subject: Re: Old Usent articles (80s)
From: Retro Guy
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2023 17:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: Old Usent articles (80s)
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Anonymous wrote:

>>This takes a while as the headers of articles this old need to be modified to be accepted by inn2

> Was some specification changed back then or is this just specific to how inn2 wants the headers?

I haven't read the RFCs but Usenet header have changed over time.

Part of my discussion in news.software.nntp I've removed 'Relay-Version', 'Posting-Version', 'Xref' and 'Date-Received' headers. Also, needed to address lines starting with a single '.', as inn2 sees that as end of message.

I also have some earlier messages, but the headers need ALOT of work before I can put them online.

>>I grabbed them from archive.org a while ago before they were forced to take it down

> Any idea which messages they wanted to redact and why? Now I want a copy too.

If I can get this done over this summer, you should be able to read them from my server 'news.novalink.us:119'.

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Subject: Re: Old Usent articles (80s)
From: Retro Guy
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Retro Guy wrote:

> Anonymous wrote:

>>>This takes a while as the headers of articles this old need to be modified to be accepted by inn2

>> Was some specification changed back then or is this just specific to how inn2 wants the headers?

> I haven't read the RFCs but Usenet header have changed over time.

> Part of my discussion in news.software.nntp I've removed 'Relay-Version', 'Posting-Version', 'Xref' and 'Date-Received' headers. Also, needed to address lines starting with a single '.', as inn2 sees that as end of message.

> I also have some earlier messages, but the headers need ALOT of work before I can put them online.

>>>I grabbed them from archive.org a while ago before they were forced to take it down

>> Any idea which messages they wanted to redact and why? Now I want a copy too.

> If I can get this done over this summer, you should be able to read them from my server 'news.novalink.us:119'.

I've uploaded about 95% of what I have. The rest need major header modification, so will take some time.

I've added a web interface to read about 70% of what's on the server here: http://usenet.novalink.us

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Subject	Author
Old Usent articles (80s)	Retro Guy
Re: Old Usent articles (80s)	Miner
Re: Old Usent articles (80s)	Retro Guy
Re: Old Usent articles (80s)	Anonymous
Re: Old Usent articles (80s)	Retro Guy
Re: Old Usent articles (80s)	Retro Guy