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Subject: Re: ArcaOS JFS traps - Resolved!
From: Doug Bissett
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 06:15 UTC
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From: dougb007!SPAM@telus.net (Doug Bissett)
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Subject: Re: ArcaOS JFS traps - Resolved!
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 05:45:33 UTC, "baden.kudrenecky@gmail.com"
<baden.kudrenecky@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Doug:
>
> Thank-you very much for your prompt and informative response. I appreciate that someone with strong connections and unfaltering support for ArcaOS still monitors the usenet. Evidently, your technical knowledge, diplomacy, and business acumen might only be surpassed by Lewis Rosenthal in your endless quest for excellence.

You are welcome. BTW, I am only a happy customer, and I contribute
time to test what Arca Naoe is building, and yes, "excellence" is the
target.

I do NOT speak for Arca Noae.

> On Saturday, 27 March 2021 at 11:17:23 UTC-6, Doug Bissett wrote:
> > On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 05:30:34 UTC, "baden.ku...@gmail.com"
> > <baden.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Okay, I *finally* found what caused the traps. I was just reading on os2world how OS2AHCI.ADD is a replacement for the *506* drivers, which I never knew.
>
> > Not exactly. OS2AHCI.ADD is support for the AHCI feature of SATA. The
> > Dani drivers are really for IDE drives, but SATA has a feature to
> > operate in IDE mode. You really do need to READ the documentation.
>
> If this is the case, how do both drivers function independently and identically? Would not there be a huge performance difference?

You need to READ the OS2AHCI docs, and the Dani docs. Performance
depends, a lot, on what the hardware can do.

> > I looked in my CONFIG.SYS, which had:
> > >
> > > BASEDEV=OS2AHCI.ADD
> > > BASEDEV=DANIS506.ADD /!BIOS
> > > BASEDEV=DANIATAP.FLT
> > >
> > > I subsequently removed the AHCI driver, and all worked well. I then reinstated it, and removed the DANI drivers, and all worked well. So, with a large (JFS) partition, and both drivers active, the system can trap.
> > >
> > > Can someone let Arca know about this?
>
> > Why? You are obviously using some ancient version of OS2AHCI, or you
> > have an invalid configuration. The first driver to load, runs the
> > device. Any other driver that loads, cannot operate the device, and
> > doesn't even try (unless you also have some ancient version of the
> > Dani driver).
>
> I wish I knew about this more than I do, but the best obvious information I can provide is:
>
> BldLevel: @#Arca Noae LLC:2.04#@##1## 12 Dec 2017 17:09:14 DAZAR1 ::::::@@AHCI Driver (c) 2017 Arca Noae LLC
> CmdLine: OS2AHCI.ADD /N
> port #0 interrupt error status: 0x40000001; restarting port
> port #0 interrupt error status: 0x40000001; restarting port
> Adapter 0: PCI=0:31:2 ID=8086:27c5 Intel ICH7M irq=16 addr=0xee444400 version=10100
> Port 0:
> Drive 0: 62260 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors per track (488382MB) (LVM)
> Model: Samsung SSD 860 PRO 512GB

This doesn't tell us the version of OS2AHCI.ADD. The latest is version
2.08, from March 14 2021.

Try taking the /N parameter off of the OS2AHCI line in CONFIG.SYS. It
is known that some systems do not implement ncq support properly.
> R1.08.15 /!BIOS
> Daniela's Bus Master IDE Driver for OS/2 Version 1.08.15

At least this is the latet Dani driver.

> Controller:0 Port:01F0 IRQ:0E Status:OK BusMaster Scatter/Gather
> Intel ICH7 PATA host (8086:27DF rev:02) on PCI 0:31.1#0
> Unit:0 Status:OK ATAPI BusMaster UltraDMA2/PIO4
> Model:DVD/CDRW UJDA775 CB03
> Controller:1 Port:18D0 IRQ:10 Status:OK BusMaster Scatter/Gather
> Intel ICH7 SATA host (8086:27C5 rev:02) on PCI 0:31.2#0
> Unit:0 Status:OK LBA BusMaster 1.5GBit/s BPB
> Model:Samsung SSD 860 PRO 512GB RVM01B6Q
> OS2:log phys BPB/BIOS IDE:log phys Total Sectors
> C 62260 65535 65535 16383 Avail 1000215216
> H 255 16 255 16 16 OS2 1000206900
> S 63 63 63 63 63 % Used 99.99

This output indicates that you have both drivers loaded, and trying to
operate a "Model: Samsung SSD 860 PRO 512GB". Perhaps you have two
drives, or the drivers are not cooperating to select which driver gets
to run the drive. READ the docs, and add parameters to select which
driver gets to run the devices. This should never happen, but older
drivers didn't know about that.

> > IF you can make the latest OS2AHCI driver fail, then YOU need to
> > report it, along with all of the required support documentation. Look
> > in the Wiki for instructions on how to properly report a problem.
> > Nobody else can do it, because we don't have your machine to be able
> > to produce the supporting documentation.
>
> I am amazed that a purported OS vendor does not have test machines, especially a T60 or equivalent, which is one of the few laptops that might operate ArcaOS.

There is more than one tester who has similar hardware (and there are
MANY modern laptops that work well with ArcaOS). I have an IBM
ThinkPad T43, which works well. I also test on an Asus A88XM-A (A6
processor), Asus M3A78-EM (quad processor), Lenovo ThinkPad T510,
Lenovo ThinkPad L530, IBM ThinkPad A22e, Dell GX270, Dell 4300, and an
Asus P4VP. My screens include a 1920x1080, 1280x1024, 1024x768. and an
old 1366x768 TV set, with VGA adapter. They all work well, but I
cannot run a 1280x1024 screen on the oldest Dell. The video adapter
just doesn't have what it takes. It is okay with 1024x768 (even when
using a 1280x1024 screen).

The A88XM-A, and the L530 are UEFI capable, and testing with UEFI is
under way. It might be made available, along with more language
support, in Arca OS 5.1. The T510, and the L530, are using 500 GB
Seagate Baracuda SSD drives. I use /N /F on the OS2AHCI line, in
CONFIG.SYS, on systems capable of using AHCI. I don't know what
support a T60 has for AHCI.

> > If you don't have a current subscription, you don't have support.
> > Bitching about that here isn't going to do anybody any good.
>
> Arca should be enthusiastically receptive to receiving critical bug reports. We (customers) are doing them (vendor) a huge favour. How many customers just dropped the platform altogether after going through a fraction of the grief, time, and expense I did? Having closed subscription based fora (ostrich emulation mode) just exacerbates their hardware compatibility problems.

Are you a customer, or a freeloader? If you are a customer, update,
and then report problems, if they still exist. If you are a
freeloader, quit bitching. That is your choice. Arca Noae doesn't have
the time to deal with freeloaders, and they can't be dealing with
ancient problems, that are probably already fixed.

> As soon as ArcaOS has a viable browser and supports my external 1920 monitor, I will be the first to throw some more money their way.

1920x1080 (even larger) monitors work well, as long as the video
adapter is capable, and you have a reasonably recent version of
Panorama. NVIDIA video adapters are usually not capable, and most
older adapters just don't have the capability to run a 1920x1080
screen.

The browser is up to Bitwiseworks. Arca Noae simply supports what they
do. That is taking a lot longer than anybody expected, but all of the
indications are, that it will be available for public testing soon
(soon could be a couple of months, or even longer, if they run into
more problems).

> thanks,
> Baden
>
>
> > > On Saturday, 1 June 2019 at 20:11:12 UTC-5, ba...@baden.nu wrote:
> > > > It appears that the ArcaOS JFS driver is trapping on
> > > > my system.
> > > >
> > > > Background:
> > > > =============
> > > >
> > > > I have a T60, which had a 512 GB Crucial SSD (2014),
> > > > that bricked in December after some partitioning
> > > > efforts. I replaced that with a 512 GB spinning
> > > > Toshiba and (almost) identical partition setup. I
> > > > recently received a new Crucial 512 GB SSD, and when I
> > > > was transferring files, I had some write problems, and
> > > > then it continually trapped ('e' & '8' mostly in
> > > > OS2KRNL) while I was attempting to restore a 450 GB
> > > > partition. After some more errors, I determined the
> > > > SSD had write errors, and I returned and replaced it
> > > > with a Samsung 860 Pro. I partitioned that the same,
> > > > but surprisingly, it also trapped while restoring files
> > > > on the large partition.
> > > >
> > > > The 454 GB partition kept trapping at 89 GB written.
> > > > I changed the partition size to different values, and
> > > > smaller partitions would allow more writing. Finally,
> > > > at a 300 GB size, I could fill the partition without
> > > > trapping. I thought it was a SSD unique problem, until
> > > > afterwards I checked the Toshiba, which I had earlier
> > > > only filled with about 50 GB onto the large partition.
> > > > That drive also trapped at about 100 GB filled.
> > > >
> > > > My system is partitioned with a HPFS C: franken
> > > > OS/2 installation, which has much eCS. It ran for ten
> > > > years without issues, originally on 512 GB spinning
> > > > rust, and the last 4.5 years on a 512 GB SSD. D: Drive
> > > > is a minimal HPFS maintenance partition, and E: Drive
> > > > is JFS ArcaOS 5.0 (was eCS).
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >  Logical Volume Type Status File System Size (MB)
> > > > 
> > > > OS2 C: Compatibility Startable HPFS 502 
> > > > Maint D: Compatibility HPFS 15 
> > > > ArcaOS E: Compatibility JFS 1027 
> > > > Data F: LVM JFS 32002 
> > > > Fotos G: LVM JFS 454830 
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > Determination:
> > > > =============
> > > >
> > > > This trap problem only started in May after I tried
> > > > restoring a large partition using ArcaOS 5.0 on SSDs.
> > > > Both the old OS (eCS) and ArcaOS trapped, and the old
> > > > OS2 mostly predates ArcaOS. I first contemplated and
> > > > checked whether heat, 'lvm' or 'format were
> > > > responsible. I further investigated, and found that
> > > > both OS use the newer JFS files, as I had installed the
> > > > "JFS - Journaled File System for OS/2 v1.09.07"
> > > > package.
> > > >
> > > > 44251 0 0 2016-10-24 09:48 OS2/CACHEJFS.EXE
> > > > 280192 0 0 2017-01-06 17:47 OS2/DLL/UJFS.DLL
> > > > 193319 0 0 2016-10-24 09:48 OS2/JFS.IFS
> > > > 6495 0 0 2016-10-24 09:48 OS2/JFSCHK32.EXE
> > > > 44949 0 0 2016-10-24 09:48 OS2/jfsstats.exe
> > > >
> > > > I then checked an older backup, and found that the
> > > > JFS files were different:
> > > >
> > > > 44268 0 0 2010-04-27 12:57 OS2/CACHEJFS.EXE
> > > > 99061 0 0 2010-04-27 12:57 OS2/CHKLGJFS.EXE
> > > > 281594 0 0 2010-04-27 12:58 OS2/DLL/UJFS.DLL
> > > > 193291 0 0 2010-04-27 12:55 OS2/JFS.IFS
> > > > 6495 0 0 2010-04-27 12:57 OS2/JFSCHK32.EXE
> > > >
> > > > I restored over all the old files, and the system
> > > > ran and filled the 450 GB partitions faultlessly on
> > > > both the Toshiba and SSD.
> > > >
> > > > Resolution:
> > > > =============
> > > >
> > > > It appears that the new ArcaOS JFS faults writing to
> > > > large partitions. It may be from a timing issue, as
> > > > this problem originally occurred when restoring SSD
> > > > drives. It also occurred on the spinning drive, but
> > > > the Toshiba did successfully fill 400+ GB one time out
> > > > of many traps.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > Baden
> > --
> > From Doug Bissett's ArcaOS
> > dougb007 at telus dot net
> > (Please make the obvious changes, to e-mail me)

--
From Doug Bissett's ArcaOS
dougb007 at telus dot net
(Please make the obvious changes, to e-mail me)

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o Re: ArcaOS JFS traps - Resolved!

By: baden.kudrenecky@gma on Thu, 25 Mar 2021

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