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Subject: Re: Dying HDD?
From: Vincent Coen
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Hello Ant!

Friday June 24 2022 20:44, Ant wrote to All:

Do not use the drive until you have a NEW drive of at least 2Tb.

Avoid the low cost drives like Purple and try and get say a Black with a 5
year warranty. Do not know what Purple is but it is low grade than Red and
that is only 3 years.

Then and only then try and make a back up of it on to the new drive (having
run partition and format etc).

IN the mean while not use that drive and disconnect it from the system -
both cables.

It will fail very shortly, if not, at some point the next time it is used.

If you have a back up use that instead.

Interesting that is has done 45430 hours which is so only been running for
5.18 years. Mind you I have no idea of the life cycle for Purple drives
but that might be good for the type.

Just had a look at my primary Red 3 TB and that's on 72,288 hours and other
one on 42,903 on 10 minutes spin down, with one Black 1 TB, on 8994 but
that is not normally spun up and in any event spins down after 10 minutes
of non use.

Oh just checked the 850 SSD and that's on 44,208.

Time for a offside back up I think.

> Short and long tests failed quickly. :(

> In comp.os.linux.hardware Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>> 11:16 -!- Irssi: INBOX ::: root@mybox: SMART error
>> (CurrentPendingSector) detected on host:
>> The following warning/error was logged by the smartd daemon:
>> Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], 5 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors

>> I quickly started a long test:
>> $ sudo /usr/sbin/smartctl --test=long /dev/sdb
>> smartctl 7.2 2020-12-30 r5155 [x86_64-linux-5.10.0-15-amd64] (local
>> build) Copyright (C) 2002-20, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke,
>> www.smartmontools.org

>> === START OF OFFLINE IMMEDIATE AND SELF-TEST SECTION ===
>> Sending command: "Execute SMART Extended self-test routine
>> immediately in off-line mode". Drive command "Execute SMART Extended
>> self-test routine immediately in off-line mode" successful. Testing
>> has begun. Please wait 256 minutes for test to complete. Test will
>> complete after Fri Jun 24 16:12:36 2022 PDT Use smartctl -X to abort
>> test.

>> Minutes later, I checked to see what the detailed preliminary report
>> had to say: $ sudo /usr/sbin/smartctl -a /dev/sdb smartctl 7.2
>> 2020-12-30 r5155 [x86_64-linux-5.10.0-15-amd64] (local build)
>> Copyright (C) 2002-20, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke,
>> www.smartmontools.org

>> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
>> Model Family: Western Digital Purple
>> Device Model: WDC WD20PURX-64P6ZY0
>> Serial Number: WD-WCC[deleted]
>> LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 20d7cb2d0
>> Firmware Version: 80.00A80
>> User Capacity: 2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
>> Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
>> Rotation Rate: 5400 rpm
>> Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
>> ATA Version is: ACS-2 (minor revision not indicated)
>> SATA Version is: SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
>> Local Time is: Fri Jun 24 11:59:04 2022 PDT
>> SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
>> SMART support is: Enabled

>> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
>> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

>> General SMART Values:
>> Offline data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection
>> activity
>> was suspended by an
>> interrupting command from host.
>> Auto Offline Data
>> Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 121) The
>> previous self-test completed having
>> the read element of the test
>> failed. Total time to complete Offline data collection:
>> (25320) seconds. Offline data collection
>> capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline
>> immediate.
>> Auto Offline data collection
>> on/off support.
>> Suspend Offline collection
>> upon new
>> command.
>> Offline surface scan
>> supported.
>> Self-test supported.
>> Conveyance Self-test
>> supported.
>> Selective Self-test
>> supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data
>> before entering
>> power-saving mode.
>> Supports SMART auto save
>> timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging
>> supported.
>> General Purpose Logging
>> supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time:
>> ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time:
>> ( 256) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling
>> time: ( 5) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x703d)
>> SCT Status supported.
>> SCT Error Recovery Control
>> supported.
>> SCT Feature Control
>> supported.
>> SCT Data Table supported.

>> SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
>> Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
>> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
>> UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
>> 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail
>> Always - 41
>> 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 177 174 021 Pre-fail
>> Always - 4108
>> 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age
>> Always - 728
>> 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail
>> Always - 0
>> 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 200 000 Old_age
>> Always - 0
>> 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 038 038 000 Old_age
>> Always - 45430
>> 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age
>> Always - 0
>> 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age
>> Always - 0
>> 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age
>> Always - 708 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200
>> 200 000 Old_age Always - 586 193 Load_Cycle_Count
>> 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 699 194
>> Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 108 107 000 Old_age Always
>> - 39 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000
>> Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032
>> 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 5 198
>> Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age
>> Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200
>> 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200
>> Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old_age
>> Offline - 1

>> SMART Error Log Version: 1
>> No Errors Logged

>> SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
>> Num Test_Description Status Remaining
>> LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Extended offline
>> Completed: read failure 90% 45430 44175392 # 2
>> Extended offline Completed without error 00% 35939
>> - # 3 Short offline Completed without error 00%
>> 35902 - # 4 Conveyance offline Completed without error
>> 00% 32943 - # 5 Short offline Completed without
>> error 00% 32943 - # 6 Extended offline
>> Completed without error 00% 19216 - # 7
>> Conveyance offline Completed without error 00% 19200
>> - # 8 Short offline Completed without error 00%
>> 19200 - # 9 Extended offline Completed without error
>> 00% 14920 -

>> SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
>> SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
>> 1 0 0 Not_testing
>> 2 0 0 Not_testing
>> 3 0 0 Not_testing
>> 4 0 0 Not_testing
>> 5 0 0 Not_testing
>> Selective self-test flags (0x0):
>> After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
>> If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute
>> delay.

>> Uh, is that bad? :(

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