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Subject: Re: Are Progressive Democrats Idiots?
From: Chips Loral
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Subject: Re: Are Progressive Democrats Idiots?
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Skeeter wrote:
> In article <605878061.744065829.032890.recscuba_google-
> huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>
>> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
>>> -hh wrote:
>>>> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>> so they should pay a price for their lies,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You just suspended the 1t amendment, you filthy fucking TRAITOR!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope: Dominion has legal standing, and it?s a private entity suing another
>>>>>> private entity.
>>>>>
>>>>> There were no "lies" but you just shilled o rlawfare to silence the press.
>>>>>
>>>>> You despicable TRAITOR!
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>> Private corporation using Rule of Law.
>>>
>>> Nope, chilling the 1st amendment is not lawful.
>>
>> It?s not chilling the 1A: the 1A has always granted one the right to say
>> something, but it doesn?t provide immunity from libel, defamation or
>> slander.
>>
>> Fox, Newsmax, Gateway Pundit, Rudy G have all ?Fucked Around? with the 1A
>> and they all are now in the ?Find Out? phase of being held legally
>> responsible for the lies that they chose to say.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone associated with the Heritage Foundation
>>>>>>>>> will be dissappeared like they do to poor slobs in South America.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Spoken like someone who?s tried to ignore what?s been written in Project
>>>>>>>> 2025?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Spoken like someone who supports open borders and the China Joe payoff
>>>>>>> administration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. But what I do know is that immigration is a lifeblood of America?s
>>>>>> prosperity: one can even postulate our economic decline to increasingly
>>>>>> restrictive immigration policies.
>>>>>
>>>>> 20 million illegals are DEFLATING wages and STRESSING our support
>>>>> systems, you treasonous scumbag!
>>>>
>>>> Oh, so it?s *20* million now?
>>>
>>> That's the generally credible number, I tend toward 30 million though.
>>>
>>>> It was 11.5M under Bush, Trump, and today.
>>>> Hint: It?s not changing.
>>>
>>> You're a craven liar.
>>>
>>> https://thehill.com/latino/407848-yale-mit-study-22-million-not-11-million-undocumented-immigrants-in-us/
>>>
>>> The undocumented population in the United States could be twice as large
>>> as the most commonly-used estimate, according to a research study
>>> published Friday in the scientific journal Plos One.
>>
>> ?Could be?.
>>
>>> The paper, led by Mohammad M. Fazel-Zarandi, a researcher at Yale and
>>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology, estimates there are 22.1 million
>>> undocumented immigrants in the United States.
>>>
>>> Fazel-Zarandi?s study compared inflows and outflows of immigrants as
>>> well as demographic data. According to the report, the number of
>>> undocumented immigrants could be as low as 16.5 million, or as high as
>>> 29.1 million.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, and now keep reading:
>>
>> ?The Yale study, which goes as far back as 1990, found the same upward and
>> downward trajectory as the ACS studies, with the undocumented population
>> ballooning through the 1990s and plateauing after 2007.?
>>
>> You know what ?plateau? means? It means its total is not really changing,
>> which is my above point. Thanks for confirming what I said!
>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> ?as well as which VP Candidate is endorsing it:
>>>>>>>> <https://x.com/kamalahq/status/1817682240198832463?s=61&t=BwOr14HsTzyD0gnJjDCtLA>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh my...this is your "damning" quote?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I want to thank especially Kevin Roberts and all of the Heritage
>>>>>>> Foundation for 50 years of incredible work on conservative policy."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, endorsing Heritage is consistent with basic conservative values.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Except that you really should read some of the stuff that?s in P2025,
>>>>>
>>>>> Except that you have decided to harp on one paper out of a 50 year run.
>>>>> So transparent.
>>>>
>>>> It?s their current plan.
>>>
>>> Who cares?
>>>
>>> The Rep. 2024 platform is the only plan we need to know.
>>
>> Except P2025?s forward was authored by the GOP VP nominee. So is Trump?s
>> new attempt to distance himself from it going to include a promise to purge
>> all P2025 participants from the GOP?
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>> because it ain?t conservative. For example,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, no citations nor quotes seen.
>>>>
>>>> If you want cites, you need to provide them first (above), lest you
>>>> explicitly confess as a hypocrite.
>>>
>>> No, you!
>>>
>>>> In any event, here?s news of a new-to-me one yesterday; I?ve not
>>>> cross-verified it yet:
>>>>
>>>> <https://x.com/sharon_kuruvila/status/1817780450611302643?s=61&t=BwOr14HsTzyD0gnJjDCtLA>
>>>>
>>>> This one is on revoking child labor laws to allow them to work hazardous
>>>> jobs again.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's about right to work when trained.
>>> Period.
>>
>> Not applicable, because minors can?t legally consent.
>>
>>
>>> It's also not in the Rep. 2024 platform, is it, liar?
>>
>> Didn?t claim it was.
>>
>>
>>>>> Your anecdotal fever dreams rejected.
>>>>
>>>> There?s more.
>>>>
>>>>> The Rep. party platform, for your perusal, not a Heritage document.
>>>>
>>>> JD Vance was a co-author, so it?s a GOP document for this election cycle.
>>>
>>> The 2024 platform is all that matters.
>>>
>>> Plenty to accomplish there.
>>
>> With the details contained within the 900 pages of ?but it?s not really our
>> document? P2025. /s
>>
>>
>>>>> Common Sense tells us clearly that the Republican Party must stand for
>>>>> Equal Treatment for All.
>>
>> Except that families without kids will be stripped of their right to vote,
>> and women will be put under surveillance to prevent ?abortion tourism? in
>> Blue states. I kid you not.
>>
>>>>> Likewise, the Republican Party must ensure the
>>>>> equal application of law to all regardless of political affiliation or
>>>>> personal beliefs. Recent Democrat-led political persecutions threaten to
>>>>> destroy 250 years of American Principle and Practice and must be stopped.
>>>>>
>>>>> America needs determined Republican Leadership at every level of
>>>>> Government to address the core threats to our very survival: Our
>>>>> disastrously Open Border, our weakened Economy, crippling restrictions
>>>>> on American Energy Production, our depleted Military, attacks on the
>>>>> American System of Justice, and much more.
>>>>>
>>>>> To make clear our commitment, we offer to the American people the 2024
>>>>> GOP Platform to Make America Great Again! It is a forward-looking Agenda
>>>>> that begins with the following twenty promises that we will accomplish
>>>>> very quickly when we win the White House and Republican Majorities in
>>>>> the House and Senate.
>>>>>
>>>>> SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION
>>>>> CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY
>>>>> END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN
>>>>> MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!
>>>>> STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER
>>>>> LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!
>>>>> DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL
>>>>> FREEDOMS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE
>>>>> RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
>>>>> PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST,
>>>>> AND BUILD A GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE
>>>>> COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA
>>>>> END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
>>>>> STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS,
>>>>> CRUSH GANG VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS
>>>>> REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN,
>>>>> AND BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
>>>>> STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE
>>>>> STRONGEST AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD
>>>>> KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD'S RESERVE CURRENCY
>>>>> FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS,
>>>>> INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE
>>>>> CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME
>>>>> REGULATIONS
>>>>> CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL
>>>>> GENDER IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL
>>>>> CONTENT ON OUR CHILDREN
>>>>> KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN'S SPORTS
>>>>> DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND
>>>>> PATRIOTIC AGAIN
>>>>> SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION,
>>>>> PAPER BALLOTS, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP
>>>>> UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS
>>>>> *****
>>>>>
>>>>> When America is united, confident, and committed to our principles, it
>>>>> will never fail.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today and together, with Love for our Country, Faith in our People, and
>>>>> Trust in God's Good Grace, we will Make America Great Again!
>>>>>
>>>>> Table of Contents
>>>>> 1. DEFEAT INFLATION, AND QUICKLY BRING DOWN ALL PRICES.
>>>>
>>>> Howa.
>>>
>>> This would be easier if you quit being a typical Demotarded snip machine.
>>
>> Dodge.
>>
>>>
>>> Inflation is a crushing tax on American families. History shows that
>>> Inflation will not magically disappear while policies remain the same.
>>
>> Policies have already changed under Biden, which is why lastweek?s PCE
>> report is that it?s back down to ~2.5%:
>>
>> <https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-inflation-rises-moderately-june-2024-07-26/>
>>
>> And wages increased by an equal amount, which means workers aren?t ?falling
>> behind?.
>>
>>> We commit to unleashing American Energy, reining in wasteful spending,
>>> cutting excessive Regulations, securing our Borders, and restoring Peace
>>> through Strength. Together, we will restore Prosperity, ensure Economic
>>> Security, and build a brighter future for American Workers and their
>>> families. Our dedication to these Policies will make America stronger,
>>> more resilient, and more prosperous than ever before.
>>>
>>> 1. Unleash American Energy
>>>
>>> Under President Trump, the U.S. became the Number One Producer of Oil
>>> and Natural Gas in the World ? and we will soon be again by lifting
>>> restrictions on American Energy Production and terminating the Socialist
>>> Green New Deal. Republicans will unleash Energy Production from all
>>> sources, including nuclear, to immediately slash Inflation and power
>>> American homes, cars, and factories with reliable, abundant, and
>>> affordable Energy.
>>
>> Neglects to note that that production record has been broken under Biden!
>>
>>>
>>> 2. Rein in Wasteful Federal Spending
>>>
>>> Republicans will immediately stabilize the Economy by slashing wasteful
>>> Government spending and promoting Economic Growth.
>>
>> Translation: they?ve targeted Social Security & Medicare for that.
>>
>>
>>> 3. Cut Costly and Burdensome Regulations
>>>
>>> Republicans will reinstate President Trump's Deregulation Policies,
>>> which saved Americans $11,000 per household, and end Democrats'
>>> regulatory onslaught that disproportionately harms low- and
>>> middle-income households.
>>
>> Got any quantitative substantiation for that $11K saved claim?
>> Better fact-check before blindly believing them.
>>
>>
>>> 4. Stop Illegal Immigration
>>>
>>> Republicans will secure the Border, deport Illegal Aliens, and reverse
>>> the Democrats' Open Borders Policies that have driven up the cost of
>>> Housing, Education, and Healthcare for American families.
>>
>> Trump personally killed the Congressional bill that would have done that.
>>
>>
>>> 5. Restore Peace through Strength
>>>
>>> War breeds Inflation while geopolitical stability brings price
>>> stability. Republicans will end the global chaos and restore Peace
>>> through Strength, reducing geopolitical risks and lowering commodity prices.
>>
>> Self-contradictory claim. Oops.
>>
>>> {snip!}
>>
>> And so on. You need to stop repeating this drivel without bothering to
>> fact-check what you?re inferentially supporting. So I?ve snipped the rest
>> because it?s not worth repeating this same point a dozen times over to get
>> it through your thick skull. Work on substantive verification of the above
>> before you bother us with any more so-called ?points?. Until then, fuck
>> off and keep fucking off.
>>
>> -hh
>
> Who decides what the lies are?
>

Herr Huntzinger has gone authoritarian on us, as the left are wont to.

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