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Subject: Re: Are Progressive Democrats Idiots?
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Subject: Re: Are Progressive Democrats Idiots?
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:16:56 -0600
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In article <605878061.744065829.032890.recscuba_google-
huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>
> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
> > -hh wrote:
> >> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
> >>> -hh wrote:
> >>>> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
> >>>>> -hh wrote:
> >>>>> ?
> >>>>>> so they should pay a price for their lies,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You just suspended the 1t amendment, you filthy fucking TRAITOR!
> >>>>
> >>>> Nope: Dominion has legal standing, and it?s a private entity suing another
> >>>> private entity.
> >>>
> >>> There were no "lies" but you just shilled o rlawfare to silence the press.
> >>>
> >>> You despicable TRAITOR!
> >>
> >> Nope.
> >> Private corporation using Rule of Law.
> >
> > Nope, chilling the 1st amendment is not lawful.
>
> It?s not chilling the 1A: the 1A has always granted one the right to say
> something, but it doesn?t provide immunity from libel, defamation or
> slander.
>
> Fox, Newsmax, Gateway Pundit, Rudy G have all ?Fucked Around? with the 1A
> and they all are now in the ?Find Out? phase of being held legally
> responsible for the lies that they chose to say.
>
>
>
> >
> >>>>>>> Anyone associated with the Heritage Foundation
> >>>>>>> will be dissappeared like they do to poor slobs in South America.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Spoken like someone who?s tried to ignore what?s been written in Project
> >>>>>> 2025?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Spoken like someone who supports open borders and the China Joe payoff
> >>>>> administration.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nope. But what I do know is that immigration is a lifeblood of America?s
> >>>> prosperity: one can even postulate our economic decline to increasingly
> >>>> restrictive immigration policies.
> >>>
> >>> 20 million illegals are DEFLATING wages and STRESSING our support
> >>> systems, you treasonous scumbag!
> >>
> >> Oh, so it?s *20* million now?
> >
> > That's the generally credible number, I tend toward 30 million though.
> >
> >> It was 11.5M under Bush, Trump, and today.
> >> Hint: It?s not changing.
> >
> > You're a craven liar.
> >
> > https://thehill.com/latino/407848-yale-mit-study-22-million-not-11-million-undocumented-immigrants-in-us/
> >
> > The undocumented population in the United States could be twice as large
> > as the most commonly-used estimate, according to a research study
> > published Friday in the scientific journal Plos One.
>
> ?Could be?.
>
> > The paper, led by Mohammad M. Fazel-Zarandi, a researcher at Yale and
> > Massachusetts Institute of Technology, estimates there are 22.1 million
> > undocumented immigrants in the United States.
> >
> > Fazel-Zarandi?s study compared inflows and outflows of immigrants as
> > well as demographic data. According to the report, the number of
> > undocumented immigrants could be as low as 16.5 million, or as high as
> > 29.1 million.
>
>
> Yeah, and now keep reading:
>
> ?The Yale study, which goes as far back as 1990, found the same upward and
> downward trajectory as the ACS studies, with the undocumented population
> ballooning through the 1990s and plateauing after 2007.?
>
> You know what ?plateau? means? It means its total is not really changing,
> which is my above point. Thanks for confirming what I said!
>
> >
> >>>>>> ?as well as which VP Candidate is endorsing it:
> >>>>>> <https://x.com/kamalahq/status/1817682240198832463?s=61&t=BwOr14HsTzyD0gnJjDCtLA>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -hh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Oh my...this is your "damning" quote?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "I want to thank especially Kevin Roberts and all of the Heritage
> >>>>> Foundation for 50 years of incredible work on conservative policy."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, endorsing Heritage is consistent with basic conservative values.
> >>>>
> >>>> Except that you really should read some of the stuff that?s in P2025,
> >>>
> >>> Except that you have decided to harp on one paper out of a 50 year run.
> >>> So transparent.
> >>
> >> It?s their current plan.
> >
> > Who cares?
> >
> > The Rep. 2024 platform is the only plan we need to know.
>
> Except P2025?s forward was authored by the GOP VP nominee. So is Trump?s
> new attempt to distance himself from it going to include a promise to purge
> all P2025 participants from the GOP?
>
>
>
> >>>> because it ain?t conservative. For example,
> >>>
> >>> Nope, no citations nor quotes seen.
> >>
> >> If you want cites, you need to provide them first (above), lest you
> >> explicitly confess as a hypocrite.
> >
> > No, you!
> >
> >> In any event, here?s news of a new-to-me one yesterday; I?ve not
> >> cross-verified it yet:
> >>
> >> <https://x.com/sharon_kuruvila/status/1817780450611302643?s=61&t=BwOr14HsTzyD0gnJjDCtLA>
> >>
> >> This one is on revoking child labor laws to allow them to work hazardous
> >> jobs again.
> >
> >
> > It's about right to work when trained.
> > Period.
>
> Not applicable, because minors can?t legally consent.
>
>
> > It's also not in the Rep. 2024 platform, is it, liar?
>
> Didn?t claim it was.
>
>
> >>> Your anecdotal fever dreams rejected.
> >>
> >> There?s more.
> >>
> >>> The Rep. party platform, for your perusal, not a Heritage document.
> >>
> >> JD Vance was a co-author, so it?s a GOP document for this election cycle.
> >
> > The 2024 platform is all that matters.
> >
> > Plenty to accomplish there.
>
> With the details contained within the 900 pages of ?but it?s not really our
> document? P2025. /s
>
>
> >>> Common Sense tells us clearly that the Republican Party must stand for
> >>> Equal Treatment for All.
>
> Except that families without kids will be stripped of their right to vote,
> and women will be put under surveillance to prevent ?abortion tourism? in
> Blue states. I kid you not.
>
> >>> Likewise, the Republican Party must ensure the
> >>> equal application of law to all regardless of political affiliation or
> >>> personal beliefs. Recent Democrat-led political persecutions threaten to
> >>> destroy 250 years of American Principle and Practice and must be stopped.
> >>>
> >>> America needs determined Republican Leadership at every level of
> >>> Government to address the core threats to our very survival: Our
> >>> disastrously Open Border, our weakened Economy, crippling restrictions
> >>> on American Energy Production, our depleted Military, attacks on the
> >>> American System of Justice, and much more.
> >>>
> >>> To make clear our commitment, we offer to the American people the 2024
> >>> GOP Platform to Make America Great Again! It is a forward-looking Agenda
> >>> that begins with the following twenty promises that we will accomplish
> >>> very quickly when we win the White House and Republican Majorities in
> >>> the House and Senate.
> >>>
> >>> SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION
> >>> CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY
> >>> END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN
> >>> MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!
> >>> STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER
> >>> LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!
> >>> DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL
> >>> FREEDOMS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE
> >>> RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
> >>> PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST,
> >>> AND BUILD A GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE
> >>> COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA
> >>> END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
> >>> STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS,
> >>> CRUSH GANG VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS
> >>> REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN,
> >>> AND BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
> >>> STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE
> >>> STRONGEST AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD
> >>> KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD'S RESERVE CURRENCY
> >>> FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS,
> >>> INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE
> >>> CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME
> >>> REGULATIONS
> >>> CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL
> >>> GENDER IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL
> >>> CONTENT ON OUR CHILDREN
> >>> KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN'S SPORTS
> >>> DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND
> >>> PATRIOTIC AGAIN
> >>> SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION,
> >>> PAPER BALLOTS, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP
> >>> UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS
> >>> *****
> >>>
> >>> When America is united, confident, and committed to our principles, it
> >>> will never fail.
> >>>
> >>> Today and together, with Love for our Country, Faith in our People, and
> >>> Trust in God's Good Grace, we will Make America Great Again!
> >>>
> >>> Table of Contents
> >>> 1. DEFEAT INFLATION, AND QUICKLY BRING DOWN ALL PRICES.
> >>
> >> Howa.
> >
> > This would be easier if you quit being a typical Demotarded snip machine.
>
> Dodge.
>
> >
> > Inflation is a crushing tax on American families. History shows that
> > Inflation will not magically disappear while policies remain the same.
>
> Policies have already changed under Biden, which is why lastweek?s PCE
> report is that it?s back down to ~2.5%:
>
> <https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-inflation-rises-moderately-june-2024-07-26/>
>
> And wages increased by an equal amount, which means workers aren?t ?falling
> behind?.
>
> > We commit to unleashing American Energy, reining in wasteful spending,
> > cutting excessive Regulations, securing our Borders, and restoring Peace
> > through Strength. Together, we will restore Prosperity, ensure Economic
> > Security, and build a brighter future for American Workers and their
> > families. Our dedication to these Policies will make America stronger,
> > more resilient, and more prosperous than ever before.
> >
> > 1. Unleash American Energy
> >
> > Under President Trump, the U.S. became the Number One Producer of Oil
> > and Natural Gas in the World ? and we will soon be again by lifting
> > restrictions on American Energy Production and terminating the Socialist
> > Green New Deal. Republicans will unleash Energy Production from all
> > sources, including nuclear, to immediately slash Inflation and power
> > American homes, cars, and factories with reliable, abundant, and
> > affordable Energy.
>
> Neglects to note that that production record has been broken under Biden!
>
> >
> > 2. Rein in Wasteful Federal Spending
> >
> > Republicans will immediately stabilize the Economy by slashing wasteful
> > Government spending and promoting Economic Growth.
>
> Translation: they?ve targeted Social Security & Medicare for that.
>
>
> > 3. Cut Costly and Burdensome Regulations
> >
> > Republicans will reinstate President Trump's Deregulation Policies,
> > which saved Americans $11,000 per household, and end Democrats'
> > regulatory onslaught that disproportionately harms low- and
> > middle-income households.
>
> Got any quantitative substantiation for that $11K saved claim?
> Better fact-check before blindly believing them.
>
>
> > 4. Stop Illegal Immigration
> >
> > Republicans will secure the Border, deport Illegal Aliens, and reverse
> > the Democrats' Open Borders Policies that have driven up the cost of
> > Housing, Education, and Healthcare for American families.
>
> Trump personally killed the Congressional bill that would have done that.
>
>
> > 5. Restore Peace through Strength
> >
> > War breeds Inflation while geopolitical stability brings price
> > stability. Republicans will end the global chaos and restore Peace
> > through Strength, reducing geopolitical risks and lowering commodity prices.
>
> Self-contradictory claim. Oops.
>
> > {snip!}
>
> And so on. You need to stop repeating this drivel without bothering to
> fact-check what you?re inferentially supporting. So I?ve snipped the rest
> because it?s not worth repeating this same point a dozen times over to get
> it through your thick skull. Work on substantive verification of the above
> before you bother us with any more so-called ?points?. Until then, fuck
> off and keep fucking off.
>
> -hh

Who decides what the lies are?

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