On 2024-06-06 12:38 p.m., % wrote:
> RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-06-06, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>> On 2024-06-06 9:39 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2024-06-06, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-06-06 8:21 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-06-06, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-06-05 9:44 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-06-05, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Since I'm such a terrible shill and stuff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS25mCLyQyk>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have NOT had a stable Linux experience.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/rVmJooy5NiU?si=2D0FfhbhrXMFRwvP>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looks like the Linux community charmed Linus
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/fJB9fdXWiiw?si=0-JlvJROJyfG2hNF>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks like this guy has a lot of problems with Linux. He also
>>>>>>>> looks to be a
>>>>>>>> game player. Maybe he should stick with Windows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't have problems with Linux stability (and haven't had any
>>>>>>>> stability
>>>>>>>> problems for about 18 years). If I did I wouldn't still be using
>>>>>>>> Linux. But
>>>>>>>> I don't play Windows video games, so that might be the key to
>>>>>>>> his (and your)
>>>>>>>> Linux issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's a professional, gaming is but one of the things he does. The
>>>>>>> reality here is that if you're looking to do more than just go on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> web, write texts and send e-mails, Linux is just not an appropriate
>>>>>>> machine. He keeps giving it a shot and getting disappointed at
>>>>>>> how bad
>>>>>>> it is for everything else. However, he thought he might be biased
>>>>>>> so he
>>>>>>> asked his kids to use it instead. They too can't stand it.
>>>>>>> Imagine being
>>>>>>> a kid and being open to just about anything that's put in front
>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>> but even you, with an age that hasn't even reached the double
>>>>>>> digits,
>>>>>>> think that Linux is lacking. As sad as this is, if you value your
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>> at all, there are but two options: Windows or Mac, same as in the
>>>>>>> 90s. A
>>>>>>> friend of mine recently moved from Windows to the Mac and
>>>>>>> considers the
>>>>>>> Mac Mini the best desktop he's ever owned. He tried Linux several
>>>>>>> times
>>>>>>> before but came to the same conclusion as I have: it's not ready,
>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>> be ready, and isn't worth the trouble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit. He's ONE person. He's taking a Linux "challenge."
>>>>>> Obviously that
>>>>>> means he's not used to using Linux. He's just one voice among
>>>>>> thousands, but
>>>>>> he happens to agree with your current position on Linux. Many
>>>>>> people use
>>>>>> Linux for all kinds of projects. You have a tendency to
>>>>>> generalize, assuming
>>>>>> you know what you don't know about why and how people use Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for his kids, they want to play MineCraft with him and
>>>>>> apparently they
>>>>>> can't play MineCraft Dungeons (whatever that is). So, yeah, his
>>>>>> kids are
>>>>>> thwarted in what they currently want to use their computers to do.
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> means basically NOTHING about Linux and what can be done with it.
>>>>>> And, as
>>>>>> I've said (now countless times), if you want to play Windows
>>>>>> games, Linux is
>>>>>> not your best platform.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you search long enough you're always going to find disgruntled
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> whining about something — and you happen to be searching for
>>>>>> disgruntled
>>>>>> people whining about Linux, so you've found one. Congratulations,
>>>>>> you can
>>>>>> use an Internet search engine. Now search for people who love
>>>>>> Linux and have
>>>>>> used it for years to balance things out. You'll find plenty of
>>>>>> those people
>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know you're frustrated because you want to use Linux because of
>>>>>> the BS
>>>>>> Microsoft is doing with Windows — but you're just going to have
>>>>>> accept that
>>>>>> Windows is a better platform for Windows video games. That doesn't
>>>>>> mean
>>>>>> Linux is not a good OS, it's just got the odds stacked against for
>>>>>> playing
>>>>>> these *WINDOWS* games.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for valuing my time, Updating Windows 10 just two times
>>>>>> probably takes as
>>>>>> much time as updating Linux for a couple years. I've used Windows,
>>>>>> and I own
>>>>>> a couple Macs. I don't like or use either of those OSes. I like Linux
>>>>>> because it's superior and makes more sense. (But it's not superior
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> playing Windows games or running bloated Microcrap Office — so if
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>> important to a user, they're probably better off using Windows.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck with whatever direction you go. You'll have no luck
>>>>>> convincing me
>>>>>> that Windows or Mac OS is better than Linux — no matter how many
>>>>>> so-called
>>>>>> YouTube "experts" you trot out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of respect for you, I'm choosing not to answer each point
>>>>> individually. I cite Linus merely because his interests in
>>>>> computing are
>>>>> similar to mine. Like me, he does not want to be limited by the
>>>>> hardware
>>>>> he buys and he doesn't want to be mocked when he finds a problem with
>>>>> software. Unfortunately for both of us, Linux is definitely not
>>>>> something which can deliver. He and I both love the idea of it, but
>>>>> can't stand the final product. I'm sure Communists were just as
>>>>> disappointed that the ideology they were theoretically in agreement
>>>>> with
>>>>> ended up causing them to starve and lose their individual rights.
>>>>
>>>> Okay. I'm the opposite. I think I would quit using computers
>>>> altogether if I
>>>> had to use Windows. Since Mac OSX at least has a UNIX base, I might
>>>> be able
>>>> to stomach it, but what I've seen of it so far I'm not crazy about it.
>>>>
>>>> Fortunately I don't have to use Windows or a Mac. I get to use
>>>> Linux. Linux
>>>> "delivers" fine for me.
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, the fact that I had to change the keyboard on this
>>> particular laptop and got the computer back with a defective fingerprint
>>> sensor is enough for me to consider the Mac very strongly when it will
>>> be time to upgrade. Even the best hardware manufacturers seem to have
>>> trouble making a machine that can withstand two years of use (three
>>> now). The fact that I get a $150 rebate on a Mac simply because I'm a
>>> teacher might be enough to seal the deal for me. Still, for all of the
>>> problems with Windows, I see very few issues with 11. It is, for me, the
>>> best they have made so far. It's easy to get attached to it despite the
>>> serious privacy concerns.
>>
>> The ads and spyware would keep me away from Windows 11, if nothing
>> else. I
>> like the quality of my Latitude E7450 but the newer Ultrabooks (I
>> believe)
>> are built like the Macs, with soldered on memory and SSD cards. I
>> wouldn't
>> like that. That was an advantage that Dell (and others) had over Macs.
>> Windows laptops seem to be looking more and more like Macs — I guess
>> they'll
>> start working more like Macs when they go to ARM chips.
>>
> get an ad blocker and some malware detection and windows 11 is great

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