On 2024-06-06 12:28 p.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-06-06, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2024-06-06 9:39 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>> On 2024-06-06, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-06-06 8:21 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-06-06, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-06-05 9:44 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-06-05, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Since I'm such a terrible shill and stuff.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS25mCLyQyk>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have NOT had a stable Linux experience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/rVmJooy5NiU?si=2D0FfhbhrXMFRwvP>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks like the Linux community charmed Linus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/fJB9fdXWiiw?si=0-JlvJROJyfG2hNF>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks like this guy has a lot of problems with Linux. He also looks to be a
>>>>>>> game player. Maybe he should stick with Windows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have problems with Linux stability (and haven't had any stability
>>>>>>> problems for about 18 years). If I did I wouldn't still be using Linux. But
>>>>>>> I don't play Windows video games, so that might be the key to his (and your)
>>>>>>> Linux issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He's a professional, gaming is but one of the things he does. The
>>>>>> reality here is that if you're looking to do more than just go on the
>>>>>> web, write texts and send e-mails, Linux is just not an appropriate
>>>>>> machine. He keeps giving it a shot and getting disappointed at how bad
>>>>>> it is for everything else. However, he thought he might be biased so he
>>>>>> asked his kids to use it instead. They too can't stand it. Imagine being
>>>>>> a kid and being open to just about anything that's put in front of you
>>>>>> but even you, with an age that hasn't even reached the double digits,
>>>>>> think that Linux is lacking. As sad as this is, if you value your time
>>>>>> at all, there are but two options: Windows or Mac, same as in the 90s. A
>>>>>> friend of mine recently moved from Windows to the Mac and considers the
>>>>>> Mac Mini the best desktop he's ever owned. He tried Linux several times
>>>>>> before but came to the same conclusion as I have: it's not ready, won't
>>>>>> be ready, and isn't worth the trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit. He's ONE person. He's taking a Linux "challenge." Obviously that
>>>>> means he's not used to using Linux. He's just one voice among thousands, but
>>>>> he happens to agree with your current position on Linux. Many people use
>>>>> Linux for all kinds of projects. You have a tendency to generalize, assuming
>>>>> you know what you don't know about why and how people use Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for his kids, they want to play MineCraft with him and apparently they
>>>>> can't play MineCraft Dungeons (whatever that is). So, yeah, his kids are
>>>>> thwarted in what they currently want to use their computers to do. That
>>>>> means basically NOTHING about Linux and what can be done with it. And, as
>>>>> I've said (now countless times), if you want to play Windows games, Linux is
>>>>> not your best platform.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you search long enough you're always going to find disgruntled people
>>>>> whining about something — and you happen to be searching for disgruntled
>>>>> people whining about Linux, so you've found one. Congratulations, you can
>>>>> use an Internet search engine. Now search for people who love Linux and have
>>>>> used it for years to balance things out. You'll find plenty of those people
>>>>> as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know you're frustrated because you want to use Linux because of the BS
>>>>> Microsoft is doing with Windows — but you're just going to have accept that
>>>>> Windows is a better platform for Windows video games. That doesn't mean
>>>>> Linux is not a good OS, it's just got the odds stacked against for playing
>>>>> these *WINDOWS* games.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for valuing my time, Updating Windows 10 just two times probably takes as
>>>>> much time as updating Linux for a couple years. I've used Windows, and I own
>>>>> a couple Macs. I don't like or use either of those OSes. I like Linux
>>>>> because it's superior and makes more sense. (But it's not superior for
>>>>> playing Windows games or running bloated Microcrap Office — so if that's
>>>>> important to a user, they're probably better off using Windows.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck with whatever direction you go. You'll have no luck convincing me
>>>>> that Windows or Mac OS is better than Linux — no matter how many so-called
>>>>> YouTube "experts" you trot out.
>>>>
>>>> Out of respect for you, I'm choosing not to answer each point
>>>> individually. I cite Linus merely because his interests in computing are
>>>> similar to mine. Like me, he does not want to be limited by the hardware
>>>> he buys and he doesn't want to be mocked when he finds a problem with
>>>> software. Unfortunately for both of us, Linux is definitely not
>>>> something which can deliver. He and I both love the idea of it, but
>>>> can't stand the final product. I'm sure Communists were just as
>>>> disappointed that the ideology they were theoretically in agreement with
>>>> ended up causing them to starve and lose their individual rights.
>>>
>>> Okay. I'm the opposite. I think I would quit using computers altogether if I
>>> had to use Windows. Since Mac OSX at least has a UNIX base, I might be able
>>> to stomach it, but what I've seen of it so far I'm not crazy about it.
>>>
>>> Fortunately I don't have to use Windows or a Mac. I get to use Linux. Linux
>>> "delivers" fine for me.
>>
>> For what it's worth, the fact that I had to change the keyboard on this
>> particular laptop and got the computer back with a defective fingerprint
>> sensor is enough for me to consider the Mac very strongly when it will
>> be time to upgrade. Even the best hardware manufacturers seem to have
>> trouble making a machine that can withstand two years of use (three
>> now). The fact that I get a $150 rebate on a Mac simply because I'm a
>> teacher might be enough to seal the deal for me. Still, for all of the
>> problems with Windows, I see very few issues with 11. It is, for me, the
>> best they have made so far. It's easy to get attached to it despite the
>> serious privacy concerns.
>
> The ads and spyware would keep me away from Windows 11, if nothing else. I
> like the quality of my Latitude E7450 but the newer Ultrabooks (I believe)
> are built like the Macs, with soldered on memory and SSD cards. I wouldn't
> like that. That was an advantage that Dell (and others) had over Macs.
> Windows laptops seem to be looking more and more like Macs — I guess they'll
> start working more like Macs when they go to ARM chips.

The soldering part, as well as the fact that I would be losing my game
and movie libraries, would be the reasons I wouldn't migrate to the Mac.
I got rid of the MacBook Air specifically because I knew that the
storage would eventually stop allowing me to write to it which has the
effect of completely killing the Mac (look it up on YouTube) by sending
12V to the other components. If I went in the Mac's direction, I would
at least upgrade to much larger storage to guarantee that reaching the
TBW limit would take more than half a decade. Still, I prefer the idea
of being able to replace the SSD for larger if I need it down the line,
and upgrading RAM whenever I choose to. If the price I have to pay to
get that and a decent computing experience is Windows, I'm happy to take it.