Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vf6vgd$15slb$1@dont-email.me>,
> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>
>> On 10/21/24 7:58 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vf6f48$ufke$1@dont-email.me>, recscuba_google@huntzinger.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/21/24 8:49 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vf5e9i$jsii$1@dont-email.me>, recscuba_google@huntzinger.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/20/24 9:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-10-20, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <vf3sbi$iukn$1@dont-email.me>, recscuba_google@huntzinger.com
>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/20/24 12:11 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-20, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <67147f6a$2$2760$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2024 at 7:06:32 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <6714658e$0$1787$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <67145de2$0$212405$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2024 at 5:46:33 PM MST, "marika" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <JpYQO.243587$1m96.51316@fx15.iad>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2024 at 1:35:02 PM MST, "-hh" wrote <vep81m$28g54$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/24 8:05 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-15, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/24 5:54 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-15, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?" is that there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids undergo sex change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/nmGuy0jievs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cuz you are as gay as a swabbie with no shore leave.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll bet hh volunteered to take other sailors "night in the barrel", if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get my drift.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pun intended.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, we certainly do: you know that you're mad because you can't dispute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts on the topic, so you try to "Shoot the Messenger" instead. Lame.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mad?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I stopped getting mad when I was about 12 yo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a waste of energy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So if you're denying that it is due to anger, then what *was* your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivation to sling such a lame Ad Hominem? After all, you did choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to post, so there must have been a reason. So if its not you being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upset & butthurt again, then just what was your motivation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He seems unaware of his own emotional states... unless you have a signifiant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue pretty much all people experience anger from time to time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer to look up from my spreadsheet and observe what the world is is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's something you seem unable to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the contrary: I find that worldviews are expanded by using objective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data, and helps to reveal my own potential personal biases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where Pothead makes things up, such as his recent claims that I am somehow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsible for Carroll's flood bot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can spin your numbers all day and night but the fact remains that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the number 1 issue with voters is the economy/inflation and the polls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show that people blame Biden/Harris for the mess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that is a fact.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And people are _never_ deceived? Or make a mountain out of a mole hill?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Case in point:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Initially Biden was trying to convince the people that Bidenomics was working.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So then, just what is the definition of "working" here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because if it is real wage increasing to catch up with inflation, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know that it is already 98% of the way there by one metric, and is 102%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the way there by another metric.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are still struggling based on Reagan and his absurd trickle down. Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work to redistribute money to the very rich did not help. Nor did the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pandemic. Nor the war in Ukraine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ironically, the Russians think this has been a very bad year for them also.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are going through some things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The war they started is not going well for them. Turns out just tossing more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people to die at a war is not always a winning strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amongst other nonfun things, the Russians have bombing their own people in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> territories like Bilhorod.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the past year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The world should be harsher toward their aggression. Trump clearly would not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be if he wins.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cite?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No wars when he was in office.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In April 2017, Trump ordered missile strikes on a Syrian airbase
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not a war.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, Trump warned the Syrians not to use poison gas on their own citizens.
>>>>>>>>>> They tested Trump and he delivered on his promise.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's the difference between Trump and Biden.
>>>>>>>>>> Our ships are being fired upon in the Middle East and Biden does virtually nothing other than continue his weak policy of appeasement.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump ramped up military operations in Afghanistan.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To end a war.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>> And Biden/Harris managed to botch that one as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But since you pendants are using the "not a war" bit because Congress
>>>>>>>>> never declared one, nothing about Afghanistan counts for Biden either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 13 dead soldiers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1/5th as many casualties as Trump had during his tenure.
>>>>>
>>>>> So that makes it ok? You idiot.
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> Then shut up about it.
>>
>> I'm not the one who's been harping on those 13 casualties.
>
> Because you don't care.
>>
>>
>>>>> BUTWHATABOUT
>>>>
>>>> Because I'm showing how you're so selectively pearl-clutching.
>>>
>>> I bet you wish you even knew what that meant.
>>
>> It means you're hamming it up as a drama queen.
>
> Is that what it means? What shithole do you live in?
>>
>>
>>>>>> And it happened while upholding what Trump had obligated the USA to do
>>>>>> under the February 2020 Doha Accord.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit Joe fucked up. Even the "generals" said so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why the scare quotes around "generals"? Are these some of Trump's very
>>>> fake "But Sir!" (he said with a tear in his eye), or do you have actual
>>>> citations with names, dates, and quotes?
>>>>
>>>> Plus when did these leaders first oppose? Back at the Doha Accord?
>>>> Because Doha was when the final ball was committed & put in motion.
>>>
>>> I wasn't there.
>>
>> Oh, so you now can't actually produce any of these "generals". Check!
>
> Well they don't live here.
>>
>>
>>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>>> This hh assclown is a massive idiot.
>>>>>>> Congress never declared war during Vietnam.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nor did Congress declare war for Korea. Yet you keep on trying to use
>>>>>> "not a war" pedantry to overlook Trump's military engagements.
>>>>>
>>>>> What wars did he start?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What wars did Biden start?
>>>
>>> I never said he started any.
>>
>>
>> Then why did you ask what wars Trump started?
>
> It's called a question dummy.
>
>> Hypocritical double-standard much?
>
> No, a question.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>> Which includes 65 soldiers who died in Afghanistan during Trump.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not a war.
>>>>
>>>> Then by your own standard, Biden's 13 losses during the final evacuation
>>>> don't count either.
>>>
>>> They are dead because of his fuck up. I know you don't care. Like
>>> Hillary said about the troops that died at Benghazi. "at this point what
>>> difference does it make?"
>>
>> On the contrary: while you've been alluding to them being suckers and
>> losers (TM), I've cared enough to put their sacrifice into mission
>> context of how many civilians were successfully rescued. Don't you
>> remember how I've posted a challenge to all comers to go identify any
>> equivalent military evacuation under fire to have had a better
>> (casualty:rescue) ratio? Or is this another case of your selective
>> senility again?
>
> What a load. People died because Joe fucked up.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>> What do they call it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These libbys are fools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As opposed to you two being hypocrite.
>>>>>
>>>>> No wars caused by Trump.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So? What wars did Biden cause? Also zero, right?
>>>
>>> I never said he did. But he sure allowed them to happen.
>>
>> Yes, Trump did certainly permit a lot of bad shit, including the ongoing
>> Mideast mess which centers around Iran's surrogates, which is on Trump
>> for pulling out of that nuclear deal.
>
>
> BUTWHATABOUT TRUMP!
>>
>>
>>>>>> For you're also being deliberately blind to how Trump failed to deliver
>>>>>> on his campaign promise to exit Afghanistan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe fucked that up.
>>>>
>>>> How could Biden have "fucked up" Trump's campaign promise to be out of
>>>> Afghanistan by the end of Trump's term? Be specific.
>>>
>>> Why did Biden spend his first day signing off all Trumps EOs? He could
>>> have changed that too.
>>
>> Why did Trump spend his first weeks signing off on EOs that undid
>> Obama's works? FYI, one of these eliminated an SEC based fiduciary
>> responsibility on your Investment Broker when he gives you advice.
>> This could be why you've been whining about not being as well off today.
>
>
> and he runs from the question and a BUTWHATABOUT
>>
>>
>>>> Also note that Trump had issued orders to the Pentagon to be out by
>>>> December 2020, but then rescinded that order. Why didn't he keep his
>>>> campaign promise? Perhaps because he thinks his legacy would have been
>>>> one of someone who "runs away"? Or because since there hadn't been
>>>> adequate planning done, military losses then would've been even worse?
>>>
>>> Cry a river. What does that have to do with now?
>>
>> It illustrates how Trump could have met his campaign promise but
>> chickened out. Trump is terrified to be ever be seen as weak, which is
>> why he's easily manipulated by that personality flaw.
>
>
> He is speaking somewhere everyday. Twice today. Sorry but you have
> nothing.
>>
>>
>>>>>> And blind to how there were thousands of Trump-freed Taliban military
>>>>>> which contributed to the very deaths you're claiming to be so upset about.
>>>>>
>>>>> But allowing crooks to cross the border and rape and kill is ok?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh, look: its yet another attempt to run & change the subject!
>>>
>>> Nope, you just want to avoid it.
>>
>> Except for how I then confronted it head on, still quoted below:
>>
>>
>>>> Fun fact:
>>>> most crooks smuggling fentanyl across the border are US citizens.
>>>
>>> Yea right.
>>>>
>>>> Need cite? Here ya go, luzer:
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.cato.org/blog/fentanyl-smuggled-us-citizens-us-citizens-not-asylum-seekers>
>>>
>>> and? I'm supposed to believe that? Besides no matter what color they are
>>> they are still crossing illegally.
>>
>>
>> Of course *you* don't believe anything that goes against your beliefs.
>> But facts don't give a damn if your feelings get hurt, snowflake.
>
> I'm not a liberal you non original halfwit.
>>
>>
>>>> Much of our border dilemma is due to decades of systemic under-funding
>>>> of the Judicial department who's responsible to process refugee claims,
>>>> primarily since the Refugee Act of 1980 (Public Law 96-212), which
>>>> amended the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Bull shit. Follow the fucking law.
>>
>> This *is* following the law. Get a clue.
>
> I explained. You choose to ignore.
>>
>>
>>> Cross at legal crossing points and
>>> get vetted. If you try to cross anywhere else you are breaking the law
>>> and go to jail or get sent back. That worked for a long time.
>>>
>>>> Need cite? <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee_Act>
>>>>
>>>> This systemic under-funding has resulted in a years-long case backlog,
>>>> and even though the Judicial approval rate of refugee cases is under 5%,
>>>> they're legally allowed to reside in the USA until their case is heard.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps the reason why this situation has been allowed to continue is
>>>> because its good for business: they can hire those peoples cheaply
>>>> (they're 7.65% cheaper than US Citizens at the same hourly rate), plus
>>>> most (~95%) of the time, the businesses know that they don't really have
>>>> to worry about having to provide raises or pay longer term benefits.
>>
>>
>> ...and of course Skeeter can't bring himself up to comment on the plain
>> truths mentioned above, particularly in light of how he knows that Trump
>> directed Johnson to kill the immigration reform bill earlier this year.
>
>
> It was a bill full of pork. Stupid spending.
>>
>>>>>> But yeah sure, the next time you see a Vet, you'll say your performative
>>>>>> "Thank you for your service" to make you - not them - feel better:
>>>>>> Active Duty knows that it is bullshit, because you don't really support
>>>>>> the troops, as evidenced by your support of political candidates who
>>>>>> stole DoD housing funds to build a wall, and who try to strip services &
>>>>>> funding from the VA.
>>>>>
>>>>> You never served so shut the fuck up.
>>>>
>>>> Unlike you, I've sworn the Oath to uphold & defend the US Constitution.
>>>> I know that that Oath is a lifetime commitment and live so accordingly.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yea whatever.
>>
>> Gosh, what a gracious apology that was from you.
>
> It was more like a middle finger. I dont believe you.
>>
>> Now you might be starting to have a clue as to why Active Duty turned
>> away from supporting the GOP back in 2020, and there's not a chance in
>> hell that they're going to go back now in 2024. Case in point:
>>
>> "Trump?s popularity slips in latest Military Times poll ? and more
>> troops say they?ll vote for Biden"
>> - 31 AUG 2020
>>
>> cite:
>> <https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/08/31/as-trumps-popularity-slips-in-latest-military-times-poll-more-troops-say-theyll-vote-for-biden/>
>>
>> FYI, the poll they also listed showed Biden +3.9 points over Trump.
>
> All something that means nothing.
>
> So why were they booing her at he rally?
>>
>>
>> -hh
>
>
because some trump fans walked by