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Subject: Re: Repeating Debunked Accusations About Trump Doesn't Make Them True
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Subject: Re: Repeating Debunked Accusations About Trump Doesn't Make Them True
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 13:08:34 -0600
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In article <6713f247$3$1427964$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Oct 19, 2024 at 9:57:05 AM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
> <56p7hjhk198bdpo86civvbic4cgfmcm1eh@4ax.com>:
>
> > On 18 Oct 2024 01:28:03 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Oct 17, 2024 at 5:24:32?PM MST, "D. Ray" wrote
> >> <EURXZHQwceRMUuRfvhVZBUWNPnUAAkKx@news.usenet.farm>:
> >>
> >>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> And if she is elected I expect her to
> >>>> drop her new positions and revert to her former policies because they
> >>>> are in line with her "values."
> >>>
> >>> So, same as Trump? I don?t remember him keeping his promises.
> >>
> >> Trump made a lot of big promises during his presidency, but the reality of his
> >> achievements was a mixed bag, with quite a few falling short. Here?s a rundown
> >> with a sharper critique:
> >>
> >> Promises Kept (with controversy):
> >>
> >> 1. Tax Cuts: Trump passed the 2017 tax law, which mainly benefited
> >> corporations and the wealthy. While he claimed it would help the middle class,
> >> the long-term benefits for average Americans were questionable, with many
> >> seeing little change or higher deficits instead.
> >> 2. Supreme Court Appointments: Yes, he appointed three conservative
> >> justices, but the process was highly divisive. His rush to appoint Amy Coney
> >> Barrett right before the 2020 election especially highlighted his disregard
> >> for consistency, considering the GOP blocked Obama?s pick in 2016 with much
> >> more time before that election.
> >> 3. Deregulation: Trump boasted about cutting regulations, especially
> >> environmental protections. But this deregulation often prioritized businesses
> >> at the expense of the environment, rolling back decades of progress on climate
> >> change and clean air protections.
> >> 4. Embassy Move to Jerusalem: Trump followed through on his promise to
> >> move the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem, but this inflamed tensions in the Middle
> >> East without achieving any real progress toward peace.
> >> 5. Criminal Justice Reform: While the First Step Act was a genuine
> >> success, it was a rare bipartisan effort where Trump could easily take credit.
> >> Beyond that, he did little to address broader issues of criminal justice
> >> reform and often resorted to harsh ?law and order? rhetoric.
> >>
> >> Promises Broken or Unfulfilled (and bigger failures):
> >>
> >> 1. Repealing and Replacing Obamacare: For all his bluster about
> >> dismantling Obamacare, Trump failed to deliver. Multiple attempts to repeal it
> >> went nowhere, and he never came up with a real replacement plan, leaving
> >> millions of Americans in healthcare limbo.
> >> 2. Mexico Paying for the Wall: This was one of his most famous promises,
> >> and it was a complete failure. Not only did Mexico not pay for the wall, but
> >> U.S. taxpayers footed the bill for the sections that were built?many of which
> >> replaced existing barriers.
> >> 3. Trade Deficit Reduction: His trade war with China did more harm than
> >> good, leading to tariffs that hurt American farmers and consumers while barely
> >> making a dent in the trade deficit. The chaos in trade policy often created
> >> more problems than it solved.
> >> 4. Draining the Swamp: Far from ?draining the swamp,? Trump filled his
> >> administration with lobbyists, insiders, and his own family members. His
> >> administration saw multiple scandals and resignations, further proving that
> >> the swamp was as murky as ever under his leadership.
> >> 5. Balancing the Budget: Trump?s fiscal promises were wildly
> >> unrealistic. Not only did he not balance the budget, but he also oversaw one
> >> of the largest expansions of the national debt in history, even before the
> >> pandemic hit.
> >> 6. Infrastructure Plan: Trump repeatedly promised a massive
> >> infrastructure plan?often referred to as ?Infrastructure Week??to rebuild
> >> America?s roads, bridges, and airports. It became a running joke because,
> >> despite constant talk, no major infrastructure bill materialized during his
> >> term. His administration never got past vague proposals and photo ops, leaving
> >> America?s crumbling infrastructure largely untouched.
> >> 7. Bringing Back Manufacturing Jobs: Trump promised to revive American
> >> manufacturing and bring jobs back from overseas. While some jobs returned, the
> >> overall impact was limited, and many manufacturing sectors continued to
> >> shrink. His trade wars and tariffs also hurt American farmers and
> >> manufacturers, especially in the Midwest, resulting in layoffs and increased
> >> costs.
> >> 8. Middle-Class Tax Relief: Trump?s 2017 tax cut disproportionately
> >> benefited corporations and the wealthy, despite his promises of massive tax
> >> relief for the middle class. In the end, the middle class saw limited gains,
> >> and much of the economic windfall went to stock buybacks and executive
> >> bonuses, rather than wage increases or job growth.
> >> 9. Defeating ISIS ?Quickly?: Trump claimed he would defeat ISIS quickly,
> >> but while the territorial caliphate was dismantled, the underlying extremist
> >> threat remains. His hasty withdrawal from Syria created chaos, abandoned
> >> Kurdish allies, and allowed ISIS remnants to regroup, leaving a security
> >> vacuum in the region.
> >> 10. Fixing Veterans? Affairs: Trump promised to overhaul the VA and
> >> improve healthcare for veterans. While some reforms were made, many veterans
> >> continued to report poor care and long wait times. His efforts didn?t solve
> >> the systemic issues plaguing the department, and his administration was rocked
> >> by internal VA scandals, including the firing of his first VA secretary amid
> >> allegations of misuse of funds.
> >> 11. Reducing the National Debt: Trump famously claimed he would
> >> eliminate the national debt within eight years. Instead, the national debt
> >> soared by trillions of dollars during his presidency, largely due to his tax
> >> cuts, increased military spending, and ballooning deficits?even before the
> >> COVID-19 pandemic further strained the budget.
> >>
> >> Additional Failures or Disappointments:
> >>
> >> ? COVID-19 Response: Trump?s mishandling of the pandemic was perhaps his
> >> biggest failure. His downplaying of the virus, mixed messaging, and lack of a
> >> coordinated federal response contributed to a much higher death toll and
> >> deeper economic damage than necessary. While he touted Operation Warp Speed?s
> >> role in developing vaccines, his refusal to fully endorse mask-wearing,
> >> testing, and shutdown measures caused widespread confusion and worsened the
> >> crisis.
> >> ? Repealing the Iran Nuclear Deal: Trump pulled out of the Iran nuclear
> >> deal, claiming he would negotiate a better one. Instead, tensions with Iran
> >> escalated, and no new deal was reached. The region became more unstable, with
> >> Iran ramping up its nuclear activities as a result of Trump?s withdrawal.
> >> ? Unity and Division: Trump promised to be a president for all
> >> Americans, but his presidency was one of the most divisive in modern history.
> >> He constantly stoked culture wars, inflamed racial tensions, and governed
> >> primarily to please his base rather than bringing the country together. His
> >> handling of events like the Charlottesville rally and the George Floyd
> >> protests only deepened the divisions.
> >>
> >> Trump was a master at making grand promises, but the follow-through was often
> >> lacking. Many of his ?achievements? were more about optics and self-promotion
> >> than real progress for most Americans. His presidency left the country more
> >> divided, with many promises either unfulfilled or causing more harm than good.
> >
> > Donald Trump left office with the lowest approval ratings of any President
> > ever.
> > Here are 75 of the reasons why, but, honestly, there's so much more! From
> > exchanging love letters with North Korea's brutal dictator... "We fell in
> > love."
> > to publicly denigrating a Gold Star military widow and making her cry, to the
> > way he attacked journalists, to late night tweet binges (Cofeve!).
> > Look, I can understand why a lot of people want to block all of this out of
> > their memories, but we cannot afford to forget just how terrible Trump?s time
> > at
> > the White House was for this nation. And we sure as hell can?t afford to put
> > him back there.
> > So, in no particular order:
> > 01) Trump fueled division and sparked record numbers of hate crimes such as
> > Charlottesville and supporters beating a homeless man.
>
> And continues to push violence.
>
> > 02) Murder went way up under Trump. He presided over the largest ever single
> > year increase in homicides in 2020.
>
> Given his rhetoric this is not hard to believe.
>
> > 03) Gun sales broke records under Trump.
>
> Fear and hatred in the country will do that.
>
> > 04) Under Trump, America suffered over 1,700 mass shootings.
>
> How many in the 4 years before and after?
> >
> > 05) Trump said there were very fine people among the neo-Nazis in
> > Charlottesville.
>
> Some say this is out of context, but it was still a stupid thing to say.
>
> > 06) Trump allied himself with the Proud Boys, a violent hate group who
> > helped organize the attack on the Capitol. "Proud Boys, stand back and stand
> > by."
>
> Yup. Sadly they are big in areas not far from me.
> >
> > 07) Trump's extreme conservative judicial appointments. 1 in 3 American women
> > now live in a state with an abortion ban.
> > 08) One of Trump's SCOTUS nominees, Bret Kavanaugh, was accused of sexual
> > assault by multiple women. The only other SCOTUS justice to be so accused was
> > Clarence Thomas, also a noted conservative.
> > 09) Trump's FBI interfered with the investigation of Kavanaugh's alleged
> > sexual
> > assaults.
> > 10) Trump has been convicted of 34 felonies while in office.
> > 11) Trump's failed pandemic response caused the needless deaths of hundreds of
> > thousands. By the time he left office, three thousand were dying every day.
> > 12) Trump's White House scrapped the emergency pandemic playbook that had been
> > assembled by the Obama administration.
> > 13) Trump disbanded the National Security Council's pandemic response team.
> > 14) Trump repeatedly lied about the danger of covid saying it was no worse
> > than
> > the flu or that it would go away on its own. But behind closed doors, Trump
> > admitted it was deadly.
> > 15) Recommended Fake COVID cures like injecting disinfectant or
> > hydroxychloroquine. After the injection comments, poison centers received a
> > spike in calls.
> > 16) Trump presided over a *net* loss of 2.9 million jobs. That's the worst
> > performance of any President, ever.
> > 17) Trump profited personally off the Presidency making an estimated $160M
> > from
> > foreign countries.
> > 18) Trump billed the Secret Service over a million dollars when they stayed at
> > his golf clubs and resorts protecting him.
> > 19) Trump caused the longest government shutdown in US history when he didn't
> > get funding for his border wall, which he said Mexico was going to pay for.
> > 20) Trump increased the national debt by 40% in just four years.
> > 21) Trump separated more than 5000 children from their parents at the border
> > with no plan to ever reunite them. Putting babies in cages without their
> > families.
> > 22) The Muslim Ban.
> > 23) Trump sparked international outrage by moving the American Embassy to
> > Jerusalem from Tel Aviv while closing the U.S.' Palestine office.
> > 24) Trump tasked his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, with drafting a potential
> > Middle East peace plan with zero Palestinian input.
> > 25) Trump recognized Israel's occupation of the Golan Heights, which is
> > considered illegal under international law.
> > 26) Trump broke the law by trying to withhold nearly $400 million of U.S. aid
> > for Ukraine in an effort to extort a personal political favor from Ukraine's
> > President Zelensky. Trump wanted Zelensky to interfere in the 2020 election by
> > announcing an investigation into the Bidens. Delaying this aid to Ukraine
> > weakened Ukraine and strengthened Russia.
> > 27) Trump personally attacked and ruined the careers of everyone who stood in
> > the way of his illegal Ukraine scheme, including Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch
> > and Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman.
> > 28) To cover up the scheme, Trump ordered the White House and State Department
> > to defy congressional subpoenas.
> > 29) For these reasons, on December 18th, 2019, Trump became the third U.S.
> > president to be impeached. He was charged with abuse of power and obstruction
> > of Congress.
> > 30) Even while he was being investigated for trying to get Ukraine to
> > interfere
> > in the U.S. election, Trump publicly called for China to interfere in the
> > election. Trump: "China should start an investigation into the Bidens."
> > 31) Long before election day Trump started making false claims that the
> > election
> > would be rigged.
> > 32) After losing, Trump falsely claimed the election was stolen, even though
> > his own inner circle, including his campaign manager, White House lawyers, and
> > his own Justice Department, and attorney general told him it was not. Barr:
> > "The claims of fraud were bullsh*t."
> > 33) Trump kept telling his Big Lie even after more than 60 legal challenges to
> > the election were struck down in court, many by Trump-appointed judges.
> > 34) Trump ordered the Department of Justice to falsely claim that the election
> > was corrupt.
> > 35) Trump and his allies used threats to pressure state leaders in Arizona and
> > Georgia to falsify the election results.
> > 36) When none of the previous schemes worked, Trump and his allies produced
> > fake electoral votes cast by fake electors in multiple swing states.
> > 37) Trump tried to bully Vice President Pence into obstructing the
> > certification of the election. "If Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the
> > election."
> > 38) Trump invited a mob to the Capitol on January 6th with his ?Be there, will
> > be wild!? tweet.
> > 39) Sworn testimony alleges that when Trump was warned that members of the
> > crowd were carrying deadly weapons, he ordered security metal detectors to be
> > taken down.
> > 40) Knowing the crowd had deadly weapons, he ordered them to go to the Capitol
> > and "Fight like hell!"
> > 41) Trump betrayed his oath to defend the nation by doing nothing to stop the
> > January 6th violence. Instead, according to witness testimony, he sat and
> > watched TV ? for hours!
> > 42) On January 13th, 2021, Trump became the only president ever to be
> > impeached
> > twice. This time, he was charged with incitement of insurrection. It was a
> > bipartisan vote. The majority of senators, 57 out of 100, voted to convict
> > Trump, including seven Republican senators.
> > 43) Trump publicly sided with Putin over the U.S. intelligence community in
> > denying Russia's interference in the 2016 election.
> > 44) In a likely obstruction of justice, Trump pressured then-FBI Director
> > James
> > Comey to stop the FBI's investigation into Trump's national security adviser,
> > Michael Flynn. This was documented in the Mueller report.
> > 45) When Comey didn't bend to Trump's will, Trump fired him.
> > 46) Trump tried to shut down the Mueller investigation by ordering White House
> > counsel Don McGahn to fire Mueller. McGahn refused because that would be
> > criminal obstruction of justice.
> > 47) Trump ordered his staff not to turn over emails showing Don Jr. had set up
> > a meeting at Trump Tower before the 2016 election with representatives of the
> > Russian government.
> > 48) Trump convinced Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about Trump's plans to
> > build a Trump Tower in Moscow, and Cohen served prison time for lying to
> > Congress.
> > 49) Trump was not charged for criminal obstruction of justice because it's the
> > Justice Department's policy not to indict a sitting president. But more than a
> > thousand former federal prosecutors who served under both Republicans and
> > Democrats signed a letter declaring there was more than enough evidence to
> > prosecute Trump.
> > 50) Trump said he'd hire only the best people in the world. But his campaign
> > chair was convicted of multiple crimes. So was one of his closest associates.
> > His deputy campaign chair pleaded guilty to crimes. So did his personal
> > lawyer,
> > his national security adviser, the chief financial officer of his business
> > campaign, a campaign foreign policy adviser, and one of his campaign
> > fundraisers. They all committed crimes and Trump pardoned most of them!
> > 51) Trump said he'd drain the swamp in Washington, D.C. but he appointed more
> > billionaires, CEOs, and Wall Street moguls to his administration than any
> > administration in history.
> > 52) Trump intervened to get his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, Top Secret
> > clearance
> > after he was denied over concerns about foreign influence.
> > 53) Trump hosted a Russian foreign minister in the Oval Office where Trump
> > revealed top secret intelligence.
> > 54) Trump promised that the average American family would see a $4,000 pay
> > raise because of his tax cuts for the wealthy and big corporations. Well, how
> > did that work out? Did you get a $4,000 raise? Of course not! Nobody did!
> > 55) Trump vowed to protect American jobs, but offshoring increased, and
> > manufacturing fell.
> > 56) Trump said he would fix America's infrastructure but it never happened.
> > He
> > announced so many failed ?infrastructure weeks,? they became a running joke!
> > White House reporter, "Since it?s infrastructure week..." (Laughter is the
> > press room) (To Sarah Huckabee) "*Is* it infrastructure week?"
> > 57) Trump said he would be ?the voice? of American workers. (Trump "I am your
> > voice!") But he filled the National Labor Relations Board with anti-union
> > flacks who made it harder for workers to unionize.
> > 58) Trump's Labor Department made it easier for bosses to get out of paying
> > workers overtime, which cheated 8 million workers of extra pay.
> > 59) Trump repeatedly suggested he might serve more than two terms in violation
> > of the Constitution. And continues to do so! (Trump: "We may have to go for
> > an extra term."
> > 60) Trump called Haiti and African nations ?sh*thole countries.?
> > 61) Trump tried to terminate DACA, which protects immigrants brought to the
> > U.S. as children. Luckily, this was struck down by the courts.
> > 62) Trump called climate change a ?HOAX.?
> > 63) Trump pulled out of the Paris Climate Agreement.
> > 64) Trump rolled back more than 100 environmental protections.
> > 66) Every budget Trump proposed included cuts to Social Security and Medicare.
> > 66) Trump tried ? and failed ? to repeal the Affordable Care Act, which would
> > have resulted in 20 million Americans losing insurance. And striking down the
> > ACA?s protections for the roughly 130 million people with preexisting
> > conditions
> > could have driven up their insurance premiums or led to a loss of coverage.
> > 67) Trump made it easier for employers to remove birth control coverage from
> > insurance plans.
> > 68) By the end of Trump's term, the number of people lacking health insurance
> > had risen by 3 million.
> > 69) Trump lied. Constantly! He made 30,573 false or misleading claims while
> > president an average of 21 a day, according to the Washington Post fact
> > checkers.
> > 70) Trump allegedly took hundreds of classified documents on his way out of
> > the
> > White House, reportedly including nuclear secrets, which he then left unsecured
> > in various parts of Mar-a-Lago ?including a bathroom!
> > 71)He was even caught on tape showing them off to people. (Trump: "Isn?t it
> > amazing? I have a big pile of papers...Except it is, like, highly confidential.
> > Secret. Look at this. See as president I could have declassified it. But now
> > I can?t.")
> > 72: Trump seriously discussed the idea of nuking a hurricane.
> > 73) When Hurricane Maria hit Puerto Rico, Trump delayed $20 billion of aid and
> > allowed Puerto Rico to be without power for 181 days.
> > 74) Trump suggested withholding federal aid for California wildfire recovery,
> > and said the solution was to ?clean the floors of the forest.?
> > 75) Trump pulled out of the Iran deal, placing Iran on a path to developing
> > nuclear weapons.

You're so full of shit parroting the lying left.

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