Snit wrote:
> On Oct 17, 2024 at 4:33:27 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> <67119ec8$5$212404$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
>> In article <67119b50$4$1895505$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>
>>> On Oct 17, 2024 at 4:09:13 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>> <671198e6$4$2756$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>
>>>> In article <67119743$4$2758$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 17, 2024 at 3:58:28 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>>> <6711967e$5$3826$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <67118ce8$1$2873018$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 17, 2024 at 3:00:38 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>>>>> <671188f1$0$3829$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <671180d7$0$1895500$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 17, 2024 at 2:14:18 PM MST, "pothead" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <verun9$2tegq$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-17, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <671175b5$2$2873000$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 17, 2024 at 1:36:21 PM MST, "pothead" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <versg5$2stfd$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-17, P. Coonan <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Oct 2024, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> posted some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:1lj2hjdh81bp6l51k7lm780n4mld88clag@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This shouldn't be a surprise. Even to the morons at msnbc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'MSNBC Interviews Early Voters In Key Battleground State, Struggles To
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find Anyone Who Voted For Harris'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://dailycaller.com/2024/10/16/msnbc-arizona-early-voting-kamala-harris/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'NBC News correspondent Vaughn Hillyard said Wednesday that not one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> early voter interviewed by his team in the battleground state of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona admitted they were voting for Vice President Kamala Harris.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans are voting by mail or returning their ballots early at a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two-to-one margin over Democrats, though Democrats outpaced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans with early voting in 2020, Hillyard said on ?Jose-Diaz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Balart Reports.? Not a single voter lining up at the polling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locations in Mohave County openly said they were voting for Harris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NBC correspondent added.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?We went to a couple early voting locations, and we saw lengthy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lines during the lunch hour. Thirty people waiting in line, and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should note, we did not find a single person who audibly would tell us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they voted for Kamala Harris,? Hillyard said. ?These were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump supporters getting out to vote early in the all-important Mohave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> County.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WATCH:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One supporter of Republican nominee Donald Trump named Jim Coddington
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said that voters are making a ?special effort? to vote this year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that it is important for those to come out early. Shelley Schwarz,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a voter in Mohave County, said she voted early for the first time ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because Trump encouraged voters to do so. (RELATED: Democrats?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Championing Of Early Voting Could Come Back To Haunt Them)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?He keeps saying it, and I?ve been thinking about it, and so here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am,? Schwarz said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another voter said he did not vote in 2020 but voted early in 2024
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because he is ?horrified by the state of the country,? Hillyard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said. Three other voters he spoke to said they moved to Arizona from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue states to support Trump.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump is currently ahead in Arizona, 49% to 47%, according to The New
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> York Times. President Joe Biden narrowly won the state in 2020 by less
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than one point, 49.4% to 49.1%, while the former president won the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> state against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton 49.5% to 45.4%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2016
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're going to see a repeat of the Hillary Clinton chokefest and shocked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressions on CBS talking heads.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure hope so, however the demoncrats have been plotting their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheating methods for 4 years so who knows what they have up their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sleeves this time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you get these wild stories?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Stay blind.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And stupid as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Just a few anomalies regarding the 2020 election.*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Six states changed their election laws two months before the 2020
>>>>>>>>>> election by executive fiat, instead of going through the proper channels
>>>>>>>>>> in the legislature. That is a violation of their state constitutions and
>>>>>>>>>> that in and of itself is enough to invalidate the results of the 2020
>>>>>>>>>> election.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Mark Zuckerberg, hard left, spent $450 million dollars of private
>>>>>>>>>> money on our elections. After the 2020 election analysis revealed that
>>>>>>>>>> most of that money went to benefit Democrats.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3. 6 swing states stopped counting the votes on election night for the
>>>>>>>>>> first time in American history. At the time that they stopped counting
>>>>>>>>>> the votes, Donald Trump was ahead of Biden in each of them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 4. The unelected tech oligarchs in conjunction with the FBI in this
>>>>>>>>>> country censored a very important story about Hunter Biden?s laptop and
>>>>>>>>>> Joe Biden?s corruption. People who worked in the intelligence community,
>>>>>>>>>> came out and said it was Russian disinformation only to have that laptop
>>>>>>>>>> be admitted into evidence as part of an FBI investigation and criminal
>>>>>>>>>> prosecution of Hunter Biden. Polling after the election showed that if
>>>>>>>>>> people knew about the Hunter Biden laptop story it would?ve changed 17%
>>>>>>>>>> of the vote.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5. 2,036,041 ballots were touched by anomalies.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 6. 923 American citizens filled out affidavits alleging voter fraud, and
>>>>>>>>>> signed them under penalties of perjury.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 7. 50 plus courts blocked evidentiary hearings into the alleged fraud
>>>>>>>>>> found in 2020.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 8. Prior to 2020 there were four other contested elections, one in
>>>>>>>>>> Florida, one in the 78th district of Missouri, one in the ninth district
>>>>>>>>>> of North Carolina, and one in the 22nd district of New York. In every
>>>>>>>>>> single one of those four instances, there was an evidentiary hearing. In
>>>>>>>>>> the 2020 election, there was no evidentiary hearing. For the first time
>>>>>>>>>> in American history.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 9. No election contest in American history has had 923 fact witnesses
>>>>>>>>>> sign under penalties of perjury and stake their personal freedom in
>>>>>>>>>> testimony to attest to the irregularities and legal issues found in
>>>>>>>>>> various states.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10. 37 states in the United States of America altered their absentee or
>>>>>>>>>> mail in ballots ballot integrity procedures before the 2020 election.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 11. If those 37 states used the same ballot integrity procedures that
>>>>>>>>>> they used in 2018, swing states would?ve found an upwards of 30,000 more
>>>>>>>>>> ineligible ballots.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 12. In Pennsylvania, counties allowed new ballots to be filled out after
>>>>>>>>>> the election.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 13. Any one of those is enough to say that there was enough fraud in the
>>>>>>>>>> 2020 election to doubt the outcome. Can I prove Donald Trump would?ve
>>>>>>>>>> won the election if the Democrats hadn?t cheated? No I can?t prove a
>>>>>>>>>> counter-narrative, but I can tell you that this amount of fraud leads
>>>>>>>>>> any reasonable person to the conclusion that Joe Biden didn?t win.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The insurrection therefore was on 11/3/2020.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1/6 was a lawful protest with permits that got out of hand. Unlike
>>>>>>>>>> Democrats who spent 10 months burning down this country to the tune of
>>>>>>>>>> $2 billion dollars, and injuring 740 police officers nationwide, the
>>>>>>>>>> capital riot had a couple million dollars in damages, 140 police
>>>>>>>>>> officers that were injured and zero deaths. Except the 3 Trump
>>>>>>>>>> supporters who were unarmed and killed without any investigation by the
>>>>>>>>>> corrupt government.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anybody who is clutching their pearls about January 6 without mentioning
>>>>>>>>>> the fact that there was a large federal presence and many anomalies that
>>>>>>>>>> have yet to be answered is a liar and a partisan hack.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You sound like an uninformed stage 10 TDS patient who needs to detox
>>>>>>>>>> from CNN and MSNBC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can endorse the cackling communist from California, but..don?t you
>>>>>>>>>> dare pretend like the reason why you?re doing it is because Donald Trump
>>>>>>>>>> did something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let?s break down and address these claims one by one:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Claim 1: States changing election laws by executive fiat
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It?s true that some states changed voting procedures before the 2020 election
>>>>>>>>> due to the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly to expand access to mail-in voting.
>>>>>>>>> However, these changes were largely made through emergency powers or by state
>>>>>>>>> election boards and officials, often with judicial review. In most cases, the
>>>>>>>>> courts ruled these changes were legal under state constitutions. Even in
>>>>>>>>> states where the legality was questioned, no court invalidated the election
>>>>>>>>> results based solely on these procedural changes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Claim 2: Mark Zuckerberg spent $450 million to benefit Democrats
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark Zuckerberg and his wife donated to a non-partisan group, the Center for
>>>>>>>>> Tech and Civic Life (CTCL), which provided funds to help local election
>>>>>>>>> offices run elections during the pandemic. While some of the funds went to
>>>>>>>>> areas that leaned Democrat (which are often more populous), Republican-leaning
>>>>>>>>> areas also received funds. There?s no evidence that this funding was used to
>>>>>>>>> favor one party over another.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Claim 3: 6 swing states stopped counting votes on election night
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In 2020, due to the unprecedented number of mail-in ballots, some states did
>>>>>>>>> stop counting votes temporarily on election night. This wasn?t a unique event
>>>>>>>>> in history?vote counting has often extended beyond election night in previous
>>>>>>>>> elections, especially in states with close races. Mail-in ballots take longer
>>>>>>>>> to process, and the delays were expected and announced beforehand. Trump?s
>>>>>>>>> early lead in some states was due to the ?red mirage? phenomenon, where
>>>>>>>>> same-day in-person votes (which leaned Republican) were counted first,
>>>>>>>>> followed by mail-in ballots (which leaned Democrat).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Claim 4: Hunter Biden laptop story and censorship
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Hunter Biden laptop story was published just weeks before the 2020
>>>>>>>>> election. Some media outlets and social media platforms took steps to limit
>>>>>>>>> its distribution, citing concerns about the authenticity of the information
>>>>>>>>> and potential foreign interference. While subsequent investigations confirmed
>>>>>>>>> that the laptop was part of a legitimate investigation into Hunter Biden,
>>>>>>>>> there is no evidence that the suppression of this story changed the election
>>>>>>>>> outcome. Polls suggesting otherwise are speculative.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Claim 5: 2 million ballots touched by anomalies
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This claim is vague and lacks concrete evidence. Many claims about voting
>>>>>>>>> anomalies have been thoroughly investigated, and none have shown widespread
>>>>>>>>> fraud that would alter the outcome of the election. Anomalies are common in
>>>>>>>>> every election, but they are generally clerical or minor errors that do not
>>>>>>>>> affect the overall result.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Claim 6: 923 affidavits alleging voter fraud
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While it?s true that some people signed affidavits, affidavits are not proof
>>>>>>>>> of fraud?they are simply statements by individuals. Many of these affidavits
>>>>>>>>> were dismissed by courts due to lack of evidence or because they described
>>>>>>>>> misunderstandings of normal election processes. Simply filing an affidavit
>>>>>>>>> does not prove fraud.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Claim 7: 50+ courts blocked evidentiary hearings
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many courts rejected election fraud claims because the evidence presented was
>>>>>>>>> insufficient or non-existent. Courts didn?t block hearings out of bias but
>>>>>>>>> rather followed legal standards that require concrete evidence before
>>>>>>>>> proceeding. Most cases were dismissed because they didn?t meet the burden of
>>>>>>>>> proof.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Claim 8: No evidentiary hearing for the 2020 election
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There were numerous hearings and legal challenges related to the 2020
>>>>>>>>> election, including in key states like Georgia, Arizona, and Pennsylvania. In
>>>>>>>>> most cases, judges found no credible evidence of widespread fraud. The idea
>>>>>>>>> that there was ?no evidentiary hearing? is false.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Claim 9: 923 fact witnesses signed under perjury
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While hundreds of people may have signed affidavits, it?s important to note
>>>>>>>>> that many of these affidavits were dismissed by courts due to a lack of
>>>>>>>>> supporting evidence. An affidavit alone does not constitute proof, and many
>>>>>>>>> were based on misunderstandings or hearsay rather than direct knowledge of
>>>>>>>>> fraud.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Claim 10: 37 states altered absentee or mail-in ballot procedures
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, many states made adjustments to their mail-in voting procedures in
>>>>>>>>> response to the pandemic, which is entirely legal if done in accordance with
>>>>>>>>> state laws. These changes were made to ensure voter safety and accessibility.
>>>>>>>>> Courts generally upheld these changes as legal, with some minor exceptions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Claim 11: 30,000 more ineligible ballots in swing states
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is no evidence to support the claim that 30,000 ineligible ballots were
>>>>>>>>> cast in swing states. Audits and recounts in key states, including Georgia and
>>>>>>>>> Arizona, have consistently shown that the number of ineligible ballots was
>>>>>>>>> extremely low and nowhere near enough to affect the outcome of the election.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Claim 12: Pennsylvania allowed new ballots after the election
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This claim is false. Pennsylvania followed court-approved deadlines for
>>>>>>>>> accepting mail-in ballots that were postmarked by Election Day and received
>>>>>>>>> within a certain window after the election, which is a standard practice.
>>>>>>>>> There is no evidence that ballots were illegally counted after the election.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Claim 13: Any one of these is enough to invalidate the election
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Each of these claims has been investigated and largely debunked. While there
>>>>>>>>> were some procedural changes due to the pandemic, none of the claims provide
>>>>>>>>> credible evidence of widespread fraud that would invalidate the results of the
>>>>>>>>> 2020 election.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> January 6 vs. Summer 2020 Protests
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The January 6 attack was not a lawful protest. It was a violent breach of the
>>>>>>>>> U.S. Capitol aimed at overturning the results of a democratic election. There
>>>>>>>>> were investigations into the conduct of Capitol Police, but there is no
>>>>>>>>> evidence of a government cover-up of the deaths of protesters. In contrast,
>>>>>>>>> while the summer 2020 protests did lead to property damage and injuries, they
>>>>>>>>> were largely protests against police brutality, and widespread condemnation
>>>>>>>>> occurred when violence took place.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In summary, the 2020 election was one of the most scrutinized elections in
>>>>>>>>> U.S. history, with no credible evidence found to support claims of widespread
>>>>>>>>> fraud that would have changed the outcome. The claims made here have been
>>>>>>>>> widely investigated, with no proof supporting the narrative that the election
>>>>>>>>> was stolen.
>>>
>>> A shame you have no reasoned response not this content. That is OK, though,
>>> just means we have reached agreement -- the election was fair or at the very
>>> least there is no good evidence or reason to think it was not. Thank you.
>>
>> It was a fraud and everyone knows it.
>
> Everything is a fraud.
>
no , i'm not i am all of what i have told you