In article <67118338$0$2760$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Oct 17, 2024 at 2:34:23 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> <671182ca$0$3829$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
> > In article <vert51$2su5u$1@dont-email.me>,
> > recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>
> >> On 10/17/24 2:10 PM, Scout wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:67113d28$1$3620715$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> >>>> In article <vere5c$2q4h9$2@dont-email.me>,
> >>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 10/17/24 9:51 AM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>> In article <ver1fr$2ohqk$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 10/16/24 8:27 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>> In article <veph2p$2ejus$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 10/16/24 6:10 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> In article <6710329b$1$2385545$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>>>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2024 at 1:35:02 PM MST, "-hh" wrote >>>>>>
> >>>>> <vep81m$28g54$1@dont-email.me>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/24 8:05 PM, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-15, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/24 5:54 PM, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-15, citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/2024 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're now trying to claim that the "what has changed?"
> >>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> that there's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adults now seeking to have genetically normal kids
> >>>>> undergo >>>>>>>>>>>> sex change
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operations.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were you "in the navy" Huntzy?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/nmGuy0jievs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cuz you are as gay as a swabbie with no shore leave.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll bet hh volunteered to take other sailors "night in
> >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> barrel", if you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get my drift.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pun intended.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, we certainly do: you know that you're mad because you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't dispute
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts on the topic, so you try to "Shoot the Messenger"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead. Lame.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mad?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I stopped getting mad when I was about 12 yo.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a waste of energy.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So if you're denying that it is due to anger, then what *was*
> >>>>>>>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>>>>>>> motivation to sling such a lame Ad Hominem? After all, you
> >>>>> did >>>>>>> choose
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to post, so there must have been a reason. So if its not you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>>> upset & butthurt again, then just what was your motivation?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> He seems unaware of his own emotional states... unless you
> >>>>> have a >>>>>> signifiant
> >>>>>>>>>>> issue pretty much all people experience anger from time to time.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer to look up from my spreadsheet and observe what the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> world is is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> saying.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's something you seem unable to do.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On the contrary: I find that worldviews are expanded by
> >>>>> using >>>>>>> objective
> >>>>>>>>>>>> data, and helps to reveal my own potential personal biases.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Where Pothead makes things up, such as his recent claims that
> >>>>> I am >>>>>> somehow
> >>>>>>>>>>> responsible for Carroll's flood bot.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can spin your numbers all day and night but the fact
> >>>>> remains >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the number 1 issue with voters is the economy/inflation and
> >>>>> the >>>>>>>> polls
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> show that people blame Biden/Harris for the mess.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And that is a fact.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And people are _never_ deceived? Or make a mountain out of a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> mole hill?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Case in point:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Initially Biden was trying to convince the people that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bidenomics was working.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So then, just what is the definition of "working" here?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Because if it is real wage increasing to catch up with
> >>>>> inflation, >>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>> know that it is already 98% of the way there by one metric,
> >>>>> and >>>>>>> is 102%
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of the way there by another metric.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> We are still struggling based on Reagan and his absurd trickle
> >>>>>>>>>>> down. Trump's
> >>>>>>>>>>> work to redistribute money to the very rich did not help. Nor
> >>>>> did >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> pandemic. Nor the war in Ukraine. Or Israel.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I was better off when Trump was in office.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> By what measure?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He and his handlers found out rather quickly that people
> >>>>> were >>>>>>>> not buying
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that message so he stopped promoting it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Or...that was Biden's message and since he's no longer
> >>>>> running, >>>>>>> Harris
> >>>>>>>>>>>> has emphasized different top messaging points.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Biden/Harris administration will go down in history as
> >>>>> the >>>>>>>> worst
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> administration ever, even topping Jimmy Carter.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And why was Carter so bad in your eyes? Inflation again, but
> >>>>>>>>>>>> this time
> >>>>>>>>>>>> from Nixon/Ford? Are you old enough to remember the GOP's
> >>>>> "WIN" >>>>>>> (Whip
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Inflation Now) campaign and wage freezes? How did those real
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wages
> >>>>>>>>>>>> catch up?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Wages have not come close to keeping close with productivity.
> >>>>> Used >>>>>> to be a CEO
> >>>>>>>>>>> made 40x the average worker. Now it is several hundred times.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The CEO:worker pay ratio shows the increasing wealth
> >>>>> concentration >>>> at
> >>>>>>>>> the top, which is decreasing the prosperity of the US middle
> >>>>> class, >>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> higher CEO pay means less for the rank & file, which is why more
> >>>>>>>>> middle
> >>>>>>>>> class households are failing instead of rising up. It is the
> >>>>>>>>> inevitable
> >>>>>>>>> outcome of the GOP's "Trickle-Down" economics starting from Reagan.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -hh
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I couls afford to do stuff.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So what you're saying is that you lost your job due to CoVid?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Or are you saying that you've not gotten raises, either because your
> >>>>>>> employer has not been kept up with the national average for wage
> >>>>>>> increases, or didn't think you were worth paying more?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Or did you (or spouse) retire, so your income has dropped from that?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Or are you just complaining that you're getting old and can't >>
> >>>>> physically
> >>>>>>> go out boozing every weekend? /s
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> YMMV, but my hourly rate has soared, such that I don't need to
> >>>>> work >> long
> >>>>>>> hours anymore.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Crime wasn't as bad.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Interesting claim, because National crime statistics show that most
> >>>>>>> crime rates have continued to go down, despite the public's false
> >>>>>>> perception that things aren't getting better:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Using the FBI data, the violent crime rate fell 49% between 1993 and
> >>>>>>> 2022, with large decreases in the rates of robbery (-74%), aggravated
> >>>>>>> assault (-39%) and murder/nonnegligent manslaughter (-34%)."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> <https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> TL;DR: half as bad as it used to be.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thus said, there have been changes in opportunistic nonviolent >>
> >>>>> property
> >>>>>>> theft, such as stealing FedEx deliveries, washing checks stolen
> >>>>> from >> the
> >>>>>>> mail, etc, but property crime still been trending down over time:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "The FBI data also shows a 59% reduction in the U.S. property
> >>>>>>> crime rate between 1993 and 2022, with big declines in the rates
> >>>>>>> of burglary (-75%), larceny/theft (-54%) & motor vehicle theft (-53%)."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Ibid
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So what evidence do you have of crime being "worse": is it merely
> >>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>> personal perception? Or true for just your highly localized region?
> >>>>>>> Because on a National macro level, the claim does not ring true.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -hh
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Moron.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Translation: Nailed It.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So what was your career path before CoVid ruined it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -hh
> >>>>
> >>>> I was already retired. What does that have to do with you being a moron?
> >>>
> >>> It keeps him from having to admit it?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yes, we all noticed how Skeeter's diversion attempt also let him try to
> >> dodge the crime topic too.
> >
> > Like Hillary said about the dead soldiers in Benghazi "at this point
> > what difference does it make?
>
> The quote from Hillary Clinton regarding Benghazi has often been taken out of
> context and misrepresented, so let?s clarify what she actually said and
> address the broader issue:
>
> 1. Context of the Quote
>
> The full quote from Hillary Clinton during a 2013 Senate hearing on Benghazi
> was in response to a question about the changing explanations provided by the
> administration in the immediate aftermath of the attack. Here?s the full
> quote:
>
> ?With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because
> of a protest, or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided
> they?d go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It
> is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it
> from ever happening again.?
>
> In context, she was not dismissing the deaths of the four Americans but rather
> expressing frustration over the political focus on the administration?s early
> characterizations of the attack, rather than the more important issue of
> understanding what went wrong and ensuring such a tragedy wouldn?t be
> repeated.
>
> 2. The Purpose of the Hearing
>
> The hearing was focused on the operational failures that led to the deaths of
> four Americans in Benghazi, not just the public messaging about the event.
> Clinton?s point was that, at that moment, the priority should be on learning
> from the event to prevent future attacks, not on litigating the shifting
> public explanations after the fact.
>
> 3. Investigations and Findings
>
> There were multiple investigations into Benghazi, including bipartisan ones,
> and none found evidence of deliberate wrongdoing or neglect on Clinton?s part
> that directly led to the deaths. Many of the criticisms that followed were
> politically motivated rather than based on factual evidence of malfeasance.
>
> 4. Conclusion
>
> The quote is often used to portray Clinton as callous or indifferent to the
> deaths, but that interpretation doesn?t align with the full context. Her
> response was about moving the focus away from politicizing the event and
> toward understanding the security failures to prevent future loss of life.
>
> So, using this quote to suggest she was dismissive of the deaths in Benghazi
> is a misrepresentation of her actual position during the hearing.

I watched it. Her body language said it all.
Remember when they asked her if she wiped her hard drive? She said
"what? with a cloth or something" Remember that. Explain that one.