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Subject: Re: MSNBC Interviews Early Voters. Struggles To Find Anyone Who Voted For Harris
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Subject: Re: MSNBC Interviews Early Voters. Struggles To Find Anyone Who Voted For Harris
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In article <671180d7$0$1895500$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Oct 17, 2024 at 2:14:18 PM MST, "pothead" wrote
> <verun9$2tegq$1@dont-email.me>:
>
> > On 2024-10-17, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >> In article <671175b5$2$2873000$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 17, 2024 at 1:36:21 PM MST, "pothead" wrote
> >>> <versg5$2stfd$2@dont-email.me>:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2024-10-17, P. Coonan <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On 17 Oct 2024, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> posted some
> >>>>> news:1lj2hjdh81bp6l51k7lm780n4mld88clag@4ax.com:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> This shouldn't be a surprise. Even to the morons at msnbc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 'MSNBC Interviews Early Voters In Key Battleground State, Struggles To
> >>>>>> Find Anyone Who Voted For Harris'
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <https://dailycaller.com/2024/10/16/msnbc-arizona-early-voting-kamala-harris/>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 'NBC News correspondent Vaughn Hillyard said Wednesday that not one
> >>>>>> early voter interviewed by his team in the battleground state of
> >>>>>> Arizona admitted they were voting for Vice President Kamala Harris.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Republicans are voting by mail or returning their ballots early at a
> >>>>>> two-to-one margin over Democrats, though Democrats outpaced
> >>>>>> Republicans with early voting in 2020, Hillyard said on ?Jose-Diaz
> >>>>>> Balart Reports.? Not a single voter lining up at the polling
> >>>>>> locations in Mohave County openly said they were voting for Harris,
> >>>>>> the NBC correspondent added.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ?We went to a couple early voting locations, and we saw lengthy
> >>>>>> lines during the lunch hour. Thirty people waiting in line, and we
> >>>>>> should note, we did not find a single person who audibly would tell us
> >>>>>> that they voted for Kamala Harris,? Hillyard said. ?These were
> >>>>>> Trump supporters getting out to vote early in the all-important Mohave
> >>>>>> County.?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> WATCH:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> One supporter of Republican nominee Donald Trump named Jim Coddington
> >>>>>> said that voters are making a ?special effort? to vote this year
> >>>>>> and that it is important for those to come out early. Shelley Schwarz,
> >>>>>> a voter in Mohave County, said she voted early for the first time ever
> >>>>>> because Trump encouraged voters to do so. (RELATED: Democrats?
> >>>>>> Championing Of Early Voting Could Come Back To Haunt Them)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ?He keeps saying it, and I?ve been thinking about it, and so here
> >>>>>> I am,? Schwarz said.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Another voter said he did not vote in 2020 but voted early in 2024
> >>>>>> because he is ?horrified by the state of the country,? Hillyard
> >>>>>> said. Three other voters he spoke to said they moved to Arizona from
> >>>>>> blue states to support Trump.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Trump is currently ahead in Arizona, 49% to 47%, according to The New
> >>>>>> York Times. President Joe Biden narrowly won the state in 2020 by less
> >>>>>> than one point, 49.4% to 49.1%, while the former president won the
> >>>>>> state against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton 49.5% to 45.4%
> >>>>>> in 2016
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We're going to see a repeat of the Hillary Clinton chokefest and shocked
> >>>>> expressions on CBS talking heads.
> >>>>
> >>>> I sure hope so, however the demoncrats have been plotting their
> >>>> cheating methods for 4 years so who knows what they have up their
> >>>> sleeves this time.
> >>>
> >>> Where do you get these wild stories?
> >>
> >> Stay blind.
> >
> > And stupid as well.
> >
> > *Just a few anomalies regarding the 2020 election.*
> >
> > 1. Six states changed their election laws two months before the 2020
> > election by executive fiat, instead of going through the proper channels
> > in the legislature. That is a violation of their state constitutions and
> > that in and of itself is enough to invalidate the results of the 2020
> > election.
> >
> > 2. Mark Zuckerberg, hard left, spent $450 million dollars of private
> > money on our elections. After the 2020 election analysis revealed that
> > most of that money went to benefit Democrats.
> >
> > 3. 6 swing states stopped counting the votes on election night for the
> > first time in American history. At the time that they stopped counting
> > the votes, Donald Trump was ahead of Biden in each of them.
> >
> > 4. The unelected tech oligarchs in conjunction with the FBI in this
> > country censored a very important story about Hunter Biden?s laptop and
> > Joe Biden?s corruption. People who worked in the intelligence community,
> > came out and said it was Russian disinformation only to have that laptop
> > be admitted into evidence as part of an FBI investigation and criminal
> > prosecution of Hunter Biden. Polling after the election showed that if
> > people knew about the Hunter Biden laptop story it would?ve changed 17%
> > of the vote.
> >
> > 5. 2,036,041 ballots were touched by anomalies.
> >
> > 6. 923 American citizens filled out affidavits alleging voter fraud, and
> > signed them under penalties of perjury.
> >
> > 7. 50 plus courts blocked evidentiary hearings into the alleged fraud
> > found in 2020.
> >
> > 8. Prior to 2020 there were four other contested elections, one in
> > Florida, one in the 78th district of Missouri, one in the ninth district
> > of North Carolina, and one in the 22nd district of New York. In every
> > single one of those four instances, there was an evidentiary hearing. In
> > the 2020 election, there was no evidentiary hearing. For the first time
> > in American history.
> >
> > 9. No election contest in American history has had 923 fact witnesses
> > sign under penalties of perjury and stake their personal freedom in
> > testimony to attest to the irregularities and legal issues found in
> > various states.
> >
> > 10. 37 states in the United States of America altered their absentee or
> > mail in ballots ballot integrity procedures before the 2020 election.
> >
> > 11. If those 37 states used the same ballot integrity procedures that
> > they used in 2018, swing states would?ve found an upwards of 30,000 more
> > ineligible ballots.
> >
> > 12. In Pennsylvania, counties allowed new ballots to be filled out after
> > the election.
> >
> > 13. Any one of those is enough to say that there was enough fraud in the
> > 2020 election to doubt the outcome. Can I prove Donald Trump would?ve
> > won the election if the Democrats hadn?t cheated? No I can?t prove a
> > counter-narrative, but I can tell you that this amount of fraud leads
> > any reasonable person to the conclusion that Joe Biden didn?t win.
> >
> > The insurrection therefore was on 11/3/2020.
> >
> > 1/6 was a lawful protest with permits that got out of hand. Unlike
> > Democrats who spent 10 months burning down this country to the tune of
> > $2 billion dollars, and injuring 740 police officers nationwide, the
> > capital riot had a couple million dollars in damages, 140 police
> > officers that were injured and zero deaths. Except the 3 Trump
> > supporters who were unarmed and killed without any investigation by the
> > corrupt government.
> >
> > Anybody who is clutching their pearls about January 6 without mentioning
> > the fact that there was a large federal presence and many anomalies that
> > have yet to be answered is a liar and a partisan hack.
> >
> > You sound like an uninformed stage 10 TDS patient who needs to detox
> > from CNN and MSNBC.
> >
> > You can endorse the cackling communist from California, but..don?t you
> > dare pretend like the reason why you?re doing it is because Donald Trump
> > did something wrong.
>
> Let?s break down and address these claims one by one:
>
> Claim 1: States changing election laws by executive fiat
>
> It?s true that some states changed voting procedures before the 2020 election
> due to the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly to expand access to mail-in voting.
> However, these changes were largely made through emergency powers or by state
> election boards and officials, often with judicial review. In most cases, the
> courts ruled these changes were legal under state constitutions. Even in
> states where the legality was questioned, no court invalidated the election
> results based solely on these procedural changes.
>
> Claim 2: Mark Zuckerberg spent $450 million to benefit Democrats
>
> Mark Zuckerberg and his wife donated to a non-partisan group, the Center for
> Tech and Civic Life (CTCL), which provided funds to help local election
> offices run elections during the pandemic. While some of the funds went to
> areas that leaned Democrat (which are often more populous), Republican-leaning
> areas also received funds. There?s no evidence that this funding was used to
> favor one party over another.
>
> Claim 3: 6 swing states stopped counting votes on election night
>
> In 2020, due to the unprecedented number of mail-in ballots, some states did
> stop counting votes temporarily on election night. This wasn?t a unique event
> in history?vote counting has often extended beyond election night in previous
> elections, especially in states with close races. Mail-in ballots take longer
> to process, and the delays were expected and announced beforehand. Trump?s
> early lead in some states was due to the ?red mirage? phenomenon, where
> same-day in-person votes (which leaned Republican) were counted first,
> followed by mail-in ballots (which leaned Democrat).
>
> Claim 4: Hunter Biden laptop story and censorship
>
> The Hunter Biden laptop story was published just weeks before the 2020
> election. Some media outlets and social media platforms took steps to limit
> its distribution, citing concerns about the authenticity of the information
> and potential foreign interference. While subsequent investigations confirmed
> that the laptop was part of a legitimate investigation into Hunter Biden,
> there is no evidence that the suppression of this story changed the election
> outcome. Polls suggesting otherwise are speculative.
>
> Claim 5: 2 million ballots touched by anomalies
>
> This claim is vague and lacks concrete evidence. Many claims about voting
> anomalies have been thoroughly investigated, and none have shown widespread
> fraud that would alter the outcome of the election. Anomalies are common in
> every election, but they are generally clerical or minor errors that do not
> affect the overall result.
>
> Claim 6: 923 affidavits alleging voter fraud
>
> While it?s true that some people signed affidavits, affidavits are not proof
> of fraud?they are simply statements by individuals. Many of these affidavits
> were dismissed by courts due to lack of evidence or because they described
> misunderstandings of normal election processes. Simply filing an affidavit
> does not prove fraud.
>
> Claim 7: 50+ courts blocked evidentiary hearings
>
> Many courts rejected election fraud claims because the evidence presented was
> insufficient or non-existent. Courts didn?t block hearings out of bias but
> rather followed legal standards that require concrete evidence before
> proceeding. Most cases were dismissed because they didn?t meet the burden of
> proof.
>
> Claim 8: No evidentiary hearing for the 2020 election
>
> There were numerous hearings and legal challenges related to the 2020
> election, including in key states like Georgia, Arizona, and Pennsylvania. In
> most cases, judges found no credible evidence of widespread fraud. The idea
> that there was ?no evidentiary hearing? is false.
>
> Claim 9: 923 fact witnesses signed under perjury
>
> While hundreds of people may have signed affidavits, it?s important to note
> that many of these affidavits were dismissed by courts due to a lack of
> supporting evidence. An affidavit alone does not constitute proof, and many
> were based on misunderstandings or hearsay rather than direct knowledge of
> fraud.
>
> Claim 10: 37 states altered absentee or mail-in ballot procedures
>
> Yes, many states made adjustments to their mail-in voting procedures in
> response to the pandemic, which is entirely legal if done in accordance with
> state laws. These changes were made to ensure voter safety and accessibility.
> Courts generally upheld these changes as legal, with some minor exceptions.
>
> Claim 11: 30,000 more ineligible ballots in swing states
>
> There is no evidence to support the claim that 30,000 ineligible ballots were
> cast in swing states. Audits and recounts in key states, including Georgia and
> Arizona, have consistently shown that the number of ineligible ballots was
> extremely low and nowhere near enough to affect the outcome of the election.
>
> Claim 12: Pennsylvania allowed new ballots after the election
>
> This claim is false. Pennsylvania followed court-approved deadlines for
> accepting mail-in ballots that were postmarked by Election Day and received
> within a certain window after the election, which is a standard practice.
> There is no evidence that ballots were illegally counted after the election.
>
> Claim 13: Any one of these is enough to invalidate the election
>
> Each of these claims has been investigated and largely debunked. While there
> were some procedural changes due to the pandemic, none of the claims provide
> credible evidence of widespread fraud that would invalidate the results of the
> 2020 election.
>
> January 6 vs. Summer 2020 Protests
>
> The January 6 attack was not a lawful protest. It was a violent breach of the
> U.S. Capitol aimed at overturning the results of a democratic election. There
> were investigations into the conduct of Capitol Police, but there is no
> evidence of a government cover-up of the deaths of protesters. In contrast,
> while the summer 2020 protests did lead to property damage and injuries, they
> were largely protests against police brutality, and widespread condemnation
> occurred when violence took place.
>
> In summary, the 2020 election was one of the most scrutinized elections in
> U.S. history, with no credible evidence found to support claims of widespread
> fraud that would have changed the outcome. The claims made here have been
> widely investigated, with no proof supporting the narrative that the election
> was stolen.

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