Le 2024-10-17 à 02 h 30, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-10-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> Le 2024-10-16 à 07 h 36, RonB a écrit :
>>> On 2024-10-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> Le 2024-10-15 à 02 h 39, RonB a écrit :
>>>>> On 2024-10-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>> Le 2024-10-14 à 19 h 01, RonB a écrit :
>>>>>>> On 2024-10-14, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-12, kazu <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Borax Man wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-12, kazu <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> John Smyth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'A Godfather of AI Just Won a Nobel. He Has Been Warning the Machines
>>>>>>>>>>>> Could Take Over the World.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://archive.is/VuJ4L#selection-2403.0-2597.172>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'The newly minted Nobel laureate Geoffrey Hinton has a message about the
>>>>>>>>>>>> artificial-intelligence systems he helped create: get more serious about
>>>>>>>>>>>> safety or they could endanger humanity.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i am 50-50 on the view that AI will pose a danger to humanity.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> both sides have decent arguments and i cant make up my mind.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think AI will take over, as it is not really capable of
>>>>>>>>>> out-of-band thinking. AI cannot solve a problem which hasn't been
>>>>>>>>>> defined. For example, you can get AI to perhaps streamline a process or
>>>>>>>>>> design, make it more efficient, but it won't come to the realisation
>>>>>>>>>> that the thing you are trying to do, may not be necessary after all. So
>>>>>>>>>> AI would have to do something it is not capable of at the moment, coming
>>>>>>>>>> to new realisations and acting on that information.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The threat from AI I think is more how we act. I see a danger where we
>>>>>>>>>> trust AI, and treat it like it is a superintelligence, and we use it as
>>>>>>>>>> a crutch to make desicions, which turn out to be poor, suboptimal
>>>>>>>>>> decisions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> current models may not be able to, but there is an exponential
>>>>>>>>> curve we are riding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What we have seen is better models because they have more data. But
>>>>>>>> there is a leap to be made to get them to think out of band. This is a
>>>>>>>> very different type of program, and now where I think the A.I. path is
>>>>>>>> leading to at the moment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Machines can't think, and programs can't think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And most of programmers involved with creating AI can't think clearly either
>>>>>>> (or at least they're pushing the agenda of their masters). Garbage in,
>>>>>>> garbage out. (Remember when Google had to pull part of their AI imaging
>>>>>>> because it was so DEI that it was completely incapable of producing white
>>>>>>> Nazis or Vikings.) That's how AI "works" when it's programmed by the Woke.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sad part is that Debian seems to be going in that direction too.
>>>>>> Lunduke just revealed it today. Regardless of their code of conduct,
>>>>>> paid internship offers for Debian are asking Whites and Asians not to
>>>>>> apply. Strangely, Ubuntu, of all distributions, seems to be one of the
>>>>>> least woke.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know where Linux Mint stands here. But it shouldn't be too surprising
>>>>> that Ubuntu is less Woke. For one, they're a company that's trying to earn a
>>>>> profit and, two, they're not a U.S. based company. South Africa doesn't seem
>>>>> too keen on the Woke crap. At least they're independent of the U.S. and
>>>>> Europe in several areas. And they are part of BRICS.
>>>>
>>>> Those last three were selling points when I was looking for the right
>>>> distribution. I've come to terms with the fact that my experience in
>>>> Linux is not likely to be stellar at all times, but I want to be as
>>>> self-sufficient as possible and Windows doesn't factor into that
>>>> equation. Right now, Kubuntu 24.04 is doing the job. I'll probably have
>>>> a few freezes here and there, but so far I can enable S3 on my machine
>>>> and _not_ have it use a ridiculous amount of battery power upon wake
>>>> unlike Windows, I am completely rid of Edge, I don't need to run an
>>>> application at all times just to limit my battery charge, the game I
>>>> play the most runs beautifully, I can easily split screen for use in the
>>>> class, etc.. If I don't want to be spied on, want to keep my machine for
>>>> near a decade and don't want to crash on simple things like opening an
>>>> image file, Linux will be fine.
>>>>
>>>> I'm crossing fingers that I don't go nuts in the next few weeks.
>>>
>>> Good luck. I realize that game playing (and game machines) makes Linux more
>>> difficult to use.
>>
>> It's not just the gaming, it's the suspend too. I'll be honest, I
>> already ran into a machine which refused to wake in Kubuntu 24.04.
>> However, I hadn't yet made the necessary modifications to enable proper
>> functionality, from what I can tell. According to Brave's search, I have
>> to make sure to enable a few NVIDIA services to get it to work right and
>> I did that, but we'll see if I run into the problem again. Either way,
>> I've lost interest in the corporate crap in the same way I've lost
>> interest in other things I used to enjoy when I was younger. I'm more
>> willing to put up with such stuff, especially since I know that the
>> situation isn't much better in Windows anyway. There, I might be able to
>> use my fingerprint reader and get access to the movies I bought from
>> Microsoft, but I have to ensure the company constantly reinstalling Edge
>> and OneDrive, or telling me that my account doesn't work right because
>> the latter is uninstalled. Additionally, right before I decided to go
>> back to Linux, Windows froze from me attempting to look at a picture of
>> my son while watching Louder with Crowder. Why that would cause a freeze
>> is beyond me. It also had this weird issue where, from time to time
>> while the GPU was enabled, the sound would stutter for about three
>> seconds before going back to normal. Other people with my laptop
>> reported that problem so it's either a hardware or Windows thing, but
>> it's not happening in Linux.
>>
>> If a few games don't play, I don't really care because I only really
>> play Civilization 6 consistently. Besides, if the games don't run
>> _today_, they might in a week. Linux's support for such stuff is always
>> improving.
>
> I'm sorry about the sleep thing. That just hasn't been an issue for me. I've
> still got one computer (the old Latitude D630) that won't boot normally with
> just the battery (works fine when hooked to power). The workaround is to go
> into the BIOS and exit, then it boots fine fine from the battery. But I want
> to find the real issue and fix it. It worked fine in earlier versions of
> Linux Mint. I'm guessing it's some kind of timing issue.

I just tried something different to fix it but have yet to test it
extensively. Apparently, suspend will work right as long as you rely to
the kernel callback feature rather than NVIDIA's own functions. I tried
it once last night by putting my machine to sleep for about fifteen
minutes and it worked right, but I will have to try a longer session to
see what happens. I don't use sleep all that much anyway, but when I do,
I expect it to work. It does in Windows, but I'm convinced that I can
get it to work reliably in Linux somehow.

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