"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
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> On 9/4/24 3:05 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Jayle Byrd" <jbyrd@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:vba9tc$3vq6d$5@news.mixmin.net...
>>> On 9/4/2024 9:48 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:fkqedj9og6n3k9tv8gj19daroi26mvd4rp@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 09:30:08 -0500, "Scout" wrote:
>>>>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/30/24 3:41 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>> ...and just wait until P2025 abolishes police, fire, & weather
>>>>>>>>>> services:
>>>>>>>>>> better start to calculate how much more its going to cost an
>>>>>>>>>> individual citizen to replace just these services with privately
>>>>>>>>>> run (&
>>>>>>>>>> for-profit) services.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guarantee you it will cost more than the tax savings. Then
>>>>>>>>> there'll
>>>>>>>>> be the lawsuits filed by the homeowners whose houses caught
>>>>>>>>> fire because a neighbor didn't have a fire service contract.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Agreed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is merely YA example of where it becomes painfully clear just
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> bad many people are at actually developing an expenses budget, and
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> go on to make bad decisions that are against their own self
>>>>>>>> interests.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FWIW, another common example of this is how they claim that EU
>>>>>>>> taxes are
>>>>>>>> frightfully bad (eg, 44%), not realizing that it includes
>>>>>>>> healthcare and
>>>>>>>> higher education, so the correct comparison starts their own 22%
>>>>>>>> Fed
>>>>>>>> rate, but then adds +32% ($25K/Median Income) for healthcare, plus
>>>>>>>> let's
>>>>>>>> say +1% for college/etc, for (22% + 32% + 1%) = 55% >> more than
>>>>>>>> EU.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Top five national income tax rates.
>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/H1LJylHMPz0>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you're trying to prove your point by ignoring many taxes...
>>>>>
>>>>> My point is that in exchange for their higher taxes, Europeans get a
>>>>> lot more
>>>>> than we do. Free university education. No/low co-pay healthcare
>>>>> including
>>>>> prescriptions. Vast public transportation networks that make it
>>>>> unnecessary to
>>>>> own a car for most people and one of the best quality road networks on
>>>>> the
>>>>> planet. European highways are built to last twice as long as ours.
>>>>>
>>>>> Caveat: Their defense budgets have historically been lower than ours
>>>>> owing to
>>>>> our investment in our mutual security. Think about post WW II. Who
>>>>> in their
>>>>> right mind would want to see Europe rearm itself? Nobody. For that
>>>>> reason, we
>>>>> dominated European security to avoid the risks of them rearming.
>>>>>
>>>>> That danger is now past with the EU and Schweringen so they can now
>>>>> arm
>>>>> themselves in earnest. And they are.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But let's go with income tax.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In California combined state and federal income tax takes over 50% of
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> income.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, that's right wing propaganda because California, like federal,
>>>>> has a
>>>>> progressive tax rate and their top marginal rate is currently 14.4%.
>>>>> The
>>>>> federal is 37%, but those are "top marginal" rates. For those who
>>>>> don't know
>>>>> haw marginal rates work:
>>>>
>>>> You're just looking at income tax.. do you think that the ONLY tax that
>>>> exists?
>>>>
>>>> Heck, pretty soon Kamala would be evicting people from their homes
>>>> because they can't pay the 25% in the unrealized income from any
>>>> increase in the value of their home.
>>>>
>>>> Further, I don't see Europe ignoring their homeless while being able to
>>>> pay to fly illegal immigrants here and arranging their illegal entry
>>>> into the country, while then providing them housing, food, jobs,
>>>> transportation and legal representation while the government pretends
>>>> that deportation would ever occur for them.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how much the money spend on opening the border and all the
>>>> care given to those who ignored are laws would have done to help our
>>>> own homeless and poor????
>>>>
>>>> I heard somewhere this has cost $451 Billion/year so far, and let's say
>>>> half of that/
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/border-crisis-costs-american-
>>>> taxpayers-451-billion-annually-house-gop-report-claims/
>>>>
>>>> We currently have (according to HUD, 653,104 homeless Americans) that's
>>>> $345,274 per person.
>>>>
>>>> In ONE year we could virtually eliminate our homeless problem and
>>>> certainly within 2.
>>>>
>>>> Instead, we allow a lot of homeless illegal immigrants who then compete
>>>> with poor americans for housing, jobs, food, etc.
>>>>
>>>> So tell me, give our TOTAL level of taxation is higher than in Europe..
>>>> why don't we have such things here????
>>>>
>>>> I mean Democrats are seriously talking about taxing money that people
>>>> don't even have.
>>>>
>>>> How long until grandma is evicted from her home because she can't pay
>>>> the 25% tax on the unrealized income made from the increase in property
>>>> values?
>>>
>>> "Fight to stop 96-year-old Pacific Grove woman's eviction continues"
>>>
>>> https://www.ksbw.com/article/california-96-year-old-pacific-grove-
>>> womans-eviction/62046753
>>>
>>>> Who will buy these homes? Corporations will who will then make you pay
>>>> to live in them because you can't afford to buy a home.
>>>
>>> That is exactly what they are doing and why homes have become
>>> unaffordable.
>>>
>>>> How about the 25% you will have to pay on the income your 401K, and
>>>> what will you do for retirement with the government sucking all that
>>>> income from your retirement account?
>>>
>>> Biden stole 30% from 401k savings in 2023.
>>>
>>>> And in the end will it really change how the rich do things? No, it
>>>> wont'.
>>>
>>> Putting Nancy Pelosi in jail for inside trading and graft would would be
>>> a good start.
>>
>> That's one I could NEVER understand.. how did Congress EVER get to the
>> point that the laws they create for everyone else does NOT apply to them.
>
>
> Because too many politicians today are selfish money grubbing assholes,
> with zero interest in Public Service. Its also why there's sections of
> the tax code which have so many qualification requirements that they
> literally only apply to one (nicely donating) taxpayer.
>
>
>
>> Frankly I would love to throw those those into jail.
>>
>> Our leadership was NEVER suppose to be 'above the law' yet that's exactly
>> what we have. Further, due to insider trading, their decisions can now
>> become decided not what is best for the nation, but rather which stocks
>> will move the most and how much can they profit personally choosing B
>> over A.
>
> Then stop voting those jerks into office & support ethics reforms for them
> .. and for SCOTUS too.
>
>
>> You will also note that THEIR retirement funds don't go into SSA, but
>> rather their own PRIVATE fund. Why is that? If SSA is good enough for the
>> rest of us it should be good enough for them.
>
> Incorrect; Feds do pay into SSA.

I wasn't talking feds, I'm talking Congress which runs it's own little
independent fund for themselves.