"Jayle Byrd" <jbyrd@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On 9/4/2024 9:48 AM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fkqedj9og6n3k9tv8gj19daroi26mvd4rp@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 09:30:08 -0500, "Scout" wrote:
>>>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/30/24 3:41 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>> ...and just wait until P2025 abolishes police, fire, & weather
>>>>>>>> services:
>>>>>>>> better start to calculate how much more its going to cost an
>>>>>>>> individual citizen to replace just these services with privately
>>>>>>>> run (&
>>>>>>>> for-profit) services.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guarantee you it will cost more than the tax savings. Then
>>>>>>> there'll
>>>>>>> be the lawsuits filed by the homeowners whose houses caught
>>>>>>> fire because a neighbor didn't have a fire service contract.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is merely YA example of where it becomes painfully clear just
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> bad many people are at actually developing an expenses budget, and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> go on to make bad decisions that are against their own self
>>>>>> interests.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW, another common example of this is how they claim that EU taxes
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> frightfully bad (eg, 44%), not realizing that it includes healthcare
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> higher education, so the correct comparison starts their own 22% Fed
>>>>>> rate, but then adds +32% ($25K/Median Income) for healthcare, plus
>>>>>> let's
>>>>>> say +1% for college/etc, for (22% + 32% + 1%) = 55% >> more than EU.
>>>>>
>>>>> Top five national income tax rates.
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/H1LJylHMPz0>
>>>>
>>>> So you're trying to prove your point by ignoring many taxes...
>>>
>>> My point is that in exchange for their higher taxes, Europeans get a lot
>>> more
>>> than we do. Free university education. No/low co-pay healthcare
>>> including
>>> prescriptions. Vast public transportation networks that make it
>>> unnecessary to
>>> own a car for most people and one of the best quality road networks on
>>> the
>>> planet. European highways are built to last twice as long as ours.
>>>
>>> Caveat: Their defense budgets have historically been lower than ours
>>> owing to
>>> our investment in our mutual security. Think about post WW II. Who in
>>> their
>>> right mind would want to see Europe rearm itself? Nobody. For that
>>> reason, we
>>> dominated European security to avoid the risks of them rearming.
>>>
>>> That danger is now past with the EU and Schweringen so they can now arm
>>> themselves in earnest. And they are.
>>>
>>>> But let's go with income tax.
>>>>
>>>> In California combined state and federal income tax takes over 50% of
>>>> your
>>>> income.
>>>
>>> Well, that's right wing propaganda because California, like federal, has
>>> a
>>> progressive tax rate and their top marginal rate is currently 14.4%.
>>> The
>>> federal is 37%, but those are "top marginal" rates. For those who don't
>>> know
>>> haw marginal rates work:
>>
>> You're just looking at income tax.. do you think that the ONLY tax that
>> exists?
>>
>> Heck, pretty soon Kamala would be evicting people from their homes
>> because they can't pay the 25% in the unrealized income from any increase
>> in the value of their home.
>>
>> Further, I don't see Europe ignoring their homeless while being able to
>> pay to fly illegal immigrants here and arranging their illegal entry into
>> the country, while then providing them housing, food, jobs,
>> transportation and legal representation while the government pretends
>> that deportation would ever occur for them.
>>
>> I wonder how much the money spend on opening the border and all the care
>> given to those who ignored are laws would have done to help our own
>> homeless and poor????
>>
>> I heard somewhere this has cost $451 Billion/year so far, and let's say
>> half of that/
>>
>> https://www.nationalreview.com/news/border-crisis-costs-american-taxpayers-451-billion-annually-house-gop-report-claims/
>>
>> We currently have (according to HUD, 653,104 homeless Americans) that's
>> $345,274 per person.
>>
>> In ONE year we could virtually eliminate our homeless problem and
>> certainly within 2.
>>
>> Instead, we allow a lot of homeless illegal immigrants who then compete
>> with poor americans for housing, jobs, food, etc.
>>
>> So tell me, give our TOTAL level of taxation is higher than in Europe..
>> why don't we have such things here????
>>
>> I mean Democrats are seriously talking about taxing money that people
>> don't even have.
>>
>> How long until grandma is evicted from her home because she can't pay the
>> 25% tax on the unrealized income made from the increase in property
>> values?
>
> "Fight to stop 96-year-old Pacific Grove woman's eviction continues"
>
> https://www.ksbw.com/article/california-96-year-old-pacific-grove-womans-eviction/62046753
>
>> Who will buy these homes? Corporations will who will then make you pay to
>> live in them because you can't afford to buy a home.
>
> That is exactly what they are doing and why homes have become
> unaffordable.
>
>> How about the 25% you will have to pay on the income your 401K, and what
>> will you do for retirement with the government sucking all that income
>> from your retirement account?
>
> Biden stole 30% from 401k savings in 2023.
>
>> And in the end will it really change how the rich do things? No, it
>> wont'.
>
> Putting Nancy Pelosi in jail for inside trading and graft would would be a
> good start.

That's one I could NEVER understand.. how did Congress EVER get to the point
that the laws they create for everyone else does NOT apply to them.

Frankly I would love to throw those those into jail.

Our leadership was NEVER suppose to be 'above the law' yet that's exactly
what we have. Further, due to insider trading, their decisions can now
become decided not what is best for the nation, but rather which stocks will
move the most and how much can they profit personally choosing B over A.

You will also note that THEIR retirement funds don't go into SSA, but rather
their own PRIVATE fund. Why is that? If SSA is good enough for the rest of
us it should be good enough for them.

Further as trustees of the SSA, the fact they have bleed the assets into
ultralow yield government bonds should be grounds from criminal charges.

I mean if I took my parent's trust fund and invested it in special low yield
stock in my company... I would be charged with embezzlement... but not
Congress critters.

Finally, on a last note they have by and large absolved most of their
legislative duties to flunkies. Specifically allowed government agencies and
departments generate 'directives' that have the nature and force of law.. if
they decide product X should be made illegal, it goes in the register and
wham bam it's now illegal after 90 days.. congress never even has to know
about it.

Heck, even when it comes to laws they create some are so broad and sweeping
as to be outside of their control. There use to be a law on the books for
endangered/threatened species that stated that any jurisdiction that applied
protections or limits on living things were also a matter of US law.

For example, in Maine, I think the smallest lobster you are allowed is 12",
yet there was some country somewhere that was trying to reestablish their
lobster population and they set a limit at 14 or 16 inches... In theory...
lobster boats could then be impounded, their crews subject to fines and
imprisonment because of a law some other nation made for THEIR situation.

A law professor made a big stink about it in a view and it was quietly
removed but I'm sure similar things are still buried within the law.

because so much of it doesn't even go through Congress and that which does
is often so massive that no one can possibly even read the bill before it
goes to vote.