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Subject: sendmail AUTH
From: Wolfgang Agnes
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc, comp.mail.sendmail, comp.unix.programmer
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Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:47 UTC

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From: wagnes@jemoni.to (Wolfgang Agnes)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: sendmail AUTH
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(*) Followup-To

comp.mail.sendmail

I suggest we take this thread to comp.mail.sendmail.
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Here's what I see when I say ``HELP'' to my sendmail:

214-2.0.0 This is sendmail version 8.18.1
214-2.0.0 Topics:
214-2.0.0 HELO EHLO MAIL RCPT DATA
214-2.0.0 RSET NOOP QUIT HELP VRFY
214-2.0.0 EXPN VERB ETRN DSN AUTH
214-2.0.0 STARTTLS
214-2.0.0 For more info use "HELP <topic>".
214-2.0.0 To report bugs in the implementation see
214-2.0.0 http://www.sendmail.org/email-addresses.html
214-2.0.0 For local information send email to Postmaster at your site.
214 2.0.0 End of HELP info

It shows AUTH. But it doesn't show anything else such as PLAIN or
CRAM-MD5. What does that mean? What kind of AUTH support do I have at
the moment?

I have no cyrus packages installed on this FreeBSD. If AUTH suffices to
me, then I wouldn't install anything else.

# pkg info | grep cyrus
#

# uname -a
FreeBSD my.host.name 14.1-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 14.1-RELEASE-p5 GENERIC amd64

Subject: Re: sendmail AUTH
From: Andrzej Adam Filip
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc, comp.mail.sendmail, comp.unix.programmer
Followup: comp.mail.sendmail
Organization: It is for me to know and for you to find out.
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 04:50 UTC
References: 1

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From: anfi@onet.eu (Andrzej Adam Filip)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.unix.programmer
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Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote:
> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
> (*) Followup-To
>
> comp.mail.sendmail
>
> I suggest we take this thread to comp.mail.sendmail.
> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
>
> Here's what I see when I say ``HELP'' to my sendmail:
>
> 214-2.0.0 This is sendmail version 8.18.1
> 214-2.0.0 Topics:
> 214-2.0.0 HELO EHLO MAIL RCPT DATA
> 214-2.0.0 RSET NOOP QUIT HELP VRFY
> 214-2.0.0 EXPN VERB ETRN DSN AUTH
> 214-2.0.0 STARTTLS
> 214-2.0.0 For more info use "HELP <topic>".
> 214-2.0.0 To report bugs in the implementation see
> 214-2.0.0 http://www.sendmail.org/email-addresses.html
> 214-2.0.0 For local information send email to Postmaster at your site.
> 214 2.0.0 End of HELP info
>
> It shows AUTH. But it doesn't show anything else such as PLAIN or
> CRAM-MD5. What does that mean? What kind of AUTH support do I have at
> the moment?
>
> I have no cyrus packages installed on this FreeBSD. If AUTH suffices to
> me, then I wouldn't install anything else.
>
> # pkg info | grep cyrus
> #
>
> # uname -a
> FreeBSD my.host.name 14.1-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 14.1-RELEASE-p5 GENERIC
> amd64

Supported AUTHentication mechanisms are listed in reply to EHLO
(extended HELO) ESMTP command. EHLO replies list SMTP extensions
supported in the ESMTP session/connection.

:> ehlo xxx
:< 250-mail.example.org Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you
:< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
:< 250-PIPELINING
:< 250-EXPN
:< 250-VERB
:< 250-8BITMIME
:< 250-SIZE
:< 250-DSN
:< 250-ETRN
:< 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
:< 250-DELIVERBY
:< 250 HELP

--
[Andrew] Andrzej A. Filip

Subject: Re: sendmail AUTH
From: Wolfgang Agnes
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc, comp.mail.sendmail, comp.unix.programmer
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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 10:52 UTC
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From: wagnes@jemoni.to (Wolfgang Agnes)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Re: sendmail AUTH
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Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:

> Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote:
>> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
>> (*) Followup-To
>>
>> comp.mail.sendmail
>>
>> I suggest we take this thread to comp.mail.sendmail.
>> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
>>
>> Here's what I see when I say ``HELP'' to my sendmail:
>>
>> 214-2.0.0 This is sendmail version 8.18.1
>> 214-2.0.0 Topics:
>> 214-2.0.0 HELO EHLO MAIL RCPT DATA
>> 214-2.0.0 RSET NOOP QUIT HELP VRFY
>> 214-2.0.0 EXPN VERB ETRN DSN AUTH
>> 214-2.0.0 STARTTLS
>> 214-2.0.0 For more info use "HELP <topic>".
>> 214-2.0.0 To report bugs in the implementation see
>> 214-2.0.0 http://www.sendmail.org/email-addresses.html
>> 214-2.0.0 For local information send email to Postmaster at your site.
>> 214 2.0.0 End of HELP info
>>
>> It shows AUTH. But it doesn't show anything else such as PLAIN or
>> CRAM-MD5. What does that mean? What kind of AUTH support do I have at
>> the moment?
>>
>> I have no cyrus packages installed on this FreeBSD. If AUTH suffices to
>> me, then I wouldn't install anything else.
>>
>> # pkg info | grep cyrus
>> #
>>
>> # uname -a
>> FreeBSD my.host.name 14.1-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 14.1-RELEASE-p5 GENERIC
>> amd64
>
> Supported AUTHentication mechanisms are listed in reply to EHLO
> (extended HELO) ESMTP command. EHLO replies list SMTP extensions
> supported in the ESMTP session/connection.
>
> :> ehlo xxx
> :< 250-mail.example.org Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you
> :< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
> :< 250-PIPELINING
> :< 250-EXPN
> :< 250-VERB
> :< 250-8BITMIME
> :< 250-SIZE
> :< 250-DSN
> :< 250-ETRN
> :< 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
> :< 250-DELIVERBY
> :< 250 HELP

Thanks! Then I don't have support for authentication.

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220 my.host.name ESMTP Sendmail 8.18.1/8.18.1; Fri, 8 Nov 2024 07:51:24 -0300 (-03)
EHLO localhost
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250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-PIPELINING
250-8BITMIME
250-SIZE
250-DSN
250-ETRN
250-STARTTLS
250-DELIVERBY
250 HELP
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I'll have to recompile Sendmail.

Subject: Re: sendmail AUTH
From: Andrzej Adam Filip
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc, comp.mail.sendmail, comp.unix.programmer
Organization: It is for me to know and for you to find out.
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 16:50 UTC
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From: anfi@onet.eu (Andrzej Adam Filip)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Re: sendmail AUTH
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2024 17:50:57 +0100
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Do you plan to use dovecot (IMAP)?
YES => AFAIK postfix offers better dovecot integration than sendmail.

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[Andrew] Andrzej A. Filip

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From: wagnes@jemoni.to (Wolfgang Agnes)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Re: sendmail AUTH
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Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:

> Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote:
>> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
>> (*) Followup-To
>>
>> comp.mail.sendmail
>>
>> I suggest we take this thread to comp.mail.sendmail.
>> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
>>
>> Here's what I see when I say ``HELP'' to my sendmail:
>>
>> 214-2.0.0 This is sendmail version 8.18.1
>> 214-2.0.0 Topics:
>> 214-2.0.0 HELO EHLO MAIL RCPT DATA
>> 214-2.0.0 RSET NOOP QUIT HELP VRFY
>> 214-2.0.0 EXPN VERB ETRN DSN AUTH
>> 214-2.0.0 STARTTLS
>> 214-2.0.0 For more info use "HELP <topic>".
>> 214-2.0.0 To report bugs in the implementation see
>> 214-2.0.0 http://www.sendmail.org/email-addresses.html
>> 214-2.0.0 For local information send email to Postmaster at your site.
>> 214 2.0.0 End of HELP info
>>
>> It shows AUTH. But it doesn't show anything else such as PLAIN or
>> CRAM-MD5. What does that mean? What kind of AUTH support do I have at
>> the moment?
>>
>> I have no cyrus packages installed on this FreeBSD. If AUTH suffices to
>> me, then I wouldn't install anything else.
>>
>> # pkg info | grep cyrus
>> #
>>
>> # uname -a
>> FreeBSD my.host.name 14.1-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 14.1-RELEASE-p5 GENERIC
>> amd64
>
> Do you plan to use dovecot (IMAP)?
> YES => AFAIK postfix offers better dovecot integration than sendmail.

(Thanks!) Such as what?

So far I'm not planning on using IMAP. This is just for personal mail
and I prefer the whole thing to be local, so POP3 should be enough to
bring my mail to my personal computer and then I can manage it here.

And I also don't want to plan to run Postfix. I am actually fond of
qmail, but I decided to run the legend once again to (this time) really
learn how it works and celebrate what a great software it has always
been.

Subject: Re: sendmail AUTH
From: Marco Moock
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc, comp.mail.sendmail, comp.unix.programmer
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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 19:46 UTC
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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
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Subject: Re: sendmail AUTH
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On 08.11.2024 um 17:50 Uhr Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:

> Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote:
> > --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
> > (*) Followup-To
> >
> > comp.mail.sendmail
> >
> > I suggest we take this thread to comp.mail.sendmail.
> > --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
> >
> > Here's what I see when I say ``HELP'' to my sendmail:
> >
> > 214-2.0.0 This is sendmail version 8.18.1
> > 214-2.0.0 Topics:
> > 214-2.0.0 HELO EHLO MAIL RCPT DATA
> > 214-2.0.0 RSET NOOP QUIT HELP VRFY
> > 214-2.0.0 EXPN VERB ETRN DSN AUTH
> > 214-2.0.0 STARTTLS
> > 214-2.0.0 For more info use "HELP <topic>".
> > 214-2.0.0 To report bugs in the implementation see
> > 214-2.0.0 http://www.sendmail.org/email-addresses.html
> > 214-2.0.0 For local information send email to Postmaster at your
> > site. 214 2.0.0 End of HELP info
> >
> > It shows AUTH. But it doesn't show anything else such as PLAIN or
> > CRAM-MD5. What does that mean? What kind of AUTH support do I
> > have at the moment?
> >
> > I have no cyrus packages installed on this FreeBSD. If AUTH
> > suffices to me, then I wouldn't install anything else.
> >
> > # pkg info | grep cyrus
> > #
> >
> > # uname -a
> > FreeBSD my.host.name 14.1-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 14.1-RELEASE-p5 GENERIC
> > amd64
>
> Do you plan to use dovecot (IMAP)?
> YES => AFAIK postfix offers better dovecot integration than sendmail.

IIRC Dovecot supports getting mail from /var/spool and also via LMTP.

--
kind regards
Marco

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Subject: Re: sendmail AUTH
From: Bjørn Mork
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Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:
> On 08.11.2024 um 17:50 Uhr Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
>
>> Do you plan to use dovecot (IMAP)?
>> YES => AFAIK postfix offers better dovecot integration than sendmail.
>
> IIRC Dovecot supports getting mail from /var/spool and also via LMTP.

There are lots of possibilites. I've been using the dovecot+sendmail
combo for years, and courier+sendmail before that. Have always used
procmail as lda delivering to Maildirs in the users' home dir.

Having

FEATURE(`local_procmail')dnl

in sendmail.mc and

DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/

in /etc/procmailrc is enough for delivery. The dovecot config has

mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir

My main reason for that configuration is that it allows each user to
filter mail directly into different imap folders using their own
~/.procmailrc without doing anything extra. Just add procmail rules
delivering to Maildir/.whatever/ instead of the default, and it will
show up in the INBOX.whatever folder in dovecot.

That's just one way to to it. There's a huge menu of mailbox formats and
locations. But whatever you choose I'm pretty sure both sendmail and
dovecot can support it.

Bjørn

BOFH excuse #289: Interference between the keyboard and the chair.

comp / comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc / Re: sendmail AUTH

Subject	Author
sendmail AUTH	Wolfgang Agnes
Re: sendmail AUTH	Andrzej Adam Filip
Re: sendmail AUTH	Wolfgang Agnes
Re: sendmail AUTH	Andrzej Adam Filip
Re: sendmail AUTH	Wolfgang Agnes
Re: sendmail AUTH	Marco Moock
Re: sendmail AUTH	Bjørn Mork