It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
abandoned this group, or is on holiday?

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

Am 07.10.2024 um 00:17 schrieb David Dalton:
> It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
> one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
> problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
> abandoned this group, or is on holiday?

The latest CTAN Announcement post I can see here is from September 26.

On the website there have been Announcements, so CTAN is not on holiday.
But I can't tell what the problem is.

Holger

Am 07.10.2024 um 00:17 schrieb David Dalton:
> It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
> one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
> problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
> abandoned this group, or is on holiday?

Yesterday I wrote to CTAN and mentioned the issue. Today I got the
answer that this is due to CTAN’s move to a new server with new
software. They hope that the service can be restored in a medium term.
Unfortunately first they have to research how to do it, and besides that
they have other important features to work on.

In the meantime the announcements are available online:
https://ctan.org/ctan-ann

Holger

On Oct 9, 2024, Holger Schieferdecker wrote
(in article <ve66ckU18e22L1@usenet.in-ulm.de>):

> Am 07.10.2024 um 00:17 schrieb David Dalton:
> > It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
> > one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
> > problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
> > abandoned this group, or is on holiday?
>
> Yesterday I wrote to CTAN and mentioned the issue. Today I got the
> answer that this is due to CTAN’s move to a new server with new
> software. They hope that the service can be restored in a medium term.
> Unfortunately first they have to research how to do it, and besides that
> they have other important features to work on.
>
> In the meantime the announcements are available online:
> https://ctan.org/ctan-ann
>
> Holger

OK, thanks.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to be
up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors), there
is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.

I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.

Annada

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[1]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/rss
[2]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/atom

-----Original Message-----
From: David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>
Subject: Re: No October posts yet?
Date: 10/10/2024 03:26:47 AM
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex

On Oct 9, 2024, Holger Schieferdecker wrote
(in article <ve66ckU18e22L1@usenet.in-ulm.de>):

> Am 07.10.2024 um 00:17 schrieb David Dalton:
> > It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
> > one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
> > problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
> > abandoned this group, or is on holiday?
>
> Yesterday I wrote to CTAN and mentioned the issue. Today I got the
> answer that this is due to CTAN’s move to a new server with new
> software. They hope that the service can be restored in a medium
> term.
> Unfortunately first they have to research how to do it, and besides
> that
> they have other important features to work on.
>
> In the meantime the announcements are available online:
> https://ctan.org/ctan-ann
>
> Holger

OK, thanks.

Annada Behera <annada@tilde.green> wrote:

> To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
> and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to be
> up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors), there
> is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.

It may be easy to register them with Feedbase[3] which would
gate them to NNTP and even allow replies there.

> I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.

Alternatively creating comp.text.tex.ctan might be a nice solution too,
while taking a bit<bs><bs><bs>long more patience.

---

> [1]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/rss
> [2]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/atom

[3]: <https://feedbase.org/about/>

--
3. Hitchhiker 3: (82) Ford shrugged.

I do not agree.

They are low volume, easily identified by subject and there is next to
no discussion in thes news group anyway.

It's a bit of a shame, but it is understandable that this is not a
priority for the CTAN Team any longer, only a few dinosaurs know what
the Usenet is or even access it.

el

On 2024/10/10 05:56, Annada Behera wrote:
> To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
> and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to
> be up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors),
> there is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.
>
> I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.
>
> Annada

Am 10.10.2024 um 05:56 schrieb Annada Behera:
> To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
> and drowns out the discussions here.

Maybe I could agree if there would be discussions here. But there are
very few discussions. Nowadays they mostly happen on web based forums
like tex.stackexchange.com.

If you don't want to see the CTAN Announcements it should be easy to
filter them.

> For people who really need to be
> up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors), there
> is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.

I don't need to see the announcements for the reasons you mentioned. But
I really appreciate them. I learned about several interesting packages I
would have never noticed otherwise.

> I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.

For me it is very convenient to have them both in one place.

Holger

> ---
> [1]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/rss
> [2]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/atom

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA>
Reply-To: nospam@lisse.NA
Subject: Re: No October posts yet?
Date: 10/10/2024 11:46:19 AM
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex

>I do not agree.
>
>They are low volume, easily identified by subject and there is next to
>no discussion in thes news group anyway.
So what? I think it is preferable to have low high quality (or good)
posts in the newsgroup than a bot spamming update for every package in
CTAN. What purpose does it serve that RSS/Atom doesn't? Anyone interested
in discussing a package update can make a thread.

I also like the idea that a separate newsgroup comp.text.tex.ctan to keep
this newsgroup from getting overrun with the announcements. But then it
is redundant with a feed reader.

>It's a bit of a shame, but it is understandable that this is not a
>priority for the CTAN Team any longer, only a few dinosaurs know what
>the Usenet is or even access it.
Agree. It is more work for CTAN team/admin. Better not bother.

Annada

On 2024/10/10 05:56, Annada Behera wrote:
> To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
>  and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to
> be up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors),
> there is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.
>
> I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.
>
> Annada

Am Thu, 10 Oct 2024 09:26:10 +0530 schrieb Annada Behera:

> To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
> and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to be
> up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors), there
> is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.

The postings here are not for people who need to be up-to-date.
These people read ctan.announce or something like that. The postings
here are for the "normal" user, the wider (now smaller) audience, so
that they see that development is going on and perhaps check what a
update is doing or what a new package offers.

> I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.

The few ctan annoucements do not restrict your right to start an
interesting discussion. But the group is quite low traffic now
compared to what it was years ago. Nowadays you find more people one
sites like tex.stackexchange.

--
Ulrike Fischer
http://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/