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* \lipsum{} ----- How did i live without it for SO long?HenHanna
+- Re: \lipsum{} ----- How did i live without it for SO long?Ruud Harmsen
`* Re: \lipsum{} ----- How did i live without it for SO long?Pieter van Oostrum
 `* Re: \lipsum{} ----- How did i live without it for SO long?HenHanna
  +- Re: \lipsum{} ----- How did i live without it for SO long?Ulrich D i e z
  `- Re: \lipsum{} ----- How did i live without it for SO long?Peter Flynn

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Subject: \lipsum{} ----- How did i live without it for SO long?
From: HenHanna
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From: HenHanna@devnull.tb (HenHanna)
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Subject: \lipsum{} ----- How did i live without it for SO long?
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Sumatra PDF viewer works great with LaTeX and the best part is.......

____________________

i started using \lipsum{} yesterday (it's so Useful!)
and it's a huge puzzle WHY... i've been using LaTex
on and off for 30+ years and
(WHY? and)
How did i live without it for SO long????

With the document i'm working on now... LaTeX does NOT
function properly without the \lipsum{} text stuck at the end!!!

\lipsum{}
\lipsum{3} ---- i don't get what the Arg. does.

>>> 3 specifies the number of paragraphs you want filled
with this dummy text. ------- really? i've tried 1,3,5 there, and the
result seems the same.

___________________________

i guess this Text must be carefully crafted to avoid making real sense!
___________________________

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing
elit. Ut purus elit, vestibulum ut, placerat ac, adipiscing vitae,
felis. Curabitur dictum gravida mauris.

Nam arcu libero, nonummy eget, consectetuer id, vulputate a, magna.

Donec vehicula augue eu neque. Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique
senectus et netus
et malesuada fames ac turpis egestas. Mauris ut leo. Cras viverra metus
rhoncus sem.

Nulla et lectus vestibulum urna fringilla ultrices.
Phasellus eu tellus sit amet tortor
gravida placerat.

Integer sapien est, iaculis in, pretium quis, viverra ac, nunc. Praesent
eget sem vel leo ultrices bibendum. Aenean faucibus. Morbi dolor nulla,
malesuada eu,
pulvinar at, mollis ac, nulla. Curabitur auctor semper nulla. Donec
varius orci eget risus.

Duis nibh mi, congue eu, accumsan eleifend, sagittis quis, diam. Duis
eget orci sit amet
orci dignissim rutrum.

Nam dui ligula, fringilla a, euismod sodales, sollicitudin
vel, wisi. Morbi auctor lorem
non justo. Nam lacus libero, pretium at, lobortis vitae, ultricies et,
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ante. Pellentesque
a nulla. Cum sociis natoque penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes,
nascetur ridiculus
mus. Aliquam tincidunt urna. Nulla ullamcorper vestibulum turpis.
Pellentesque cursus
luctus mauris.

Nulla malesuada porttitor diam.

__________________________________

> Nam arcu libero, nonummy eget, consectetuer id, vulputate a, magna.

in a professional team... Some libero's make real good money?

Subject: Re: \lipsum{} ----- How did i live without it for SO long?
From: Ruud Harmsen
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Fri, 19 Jul 2024 15:55:46 -0700: HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb>
scribeva:

>
>Sumatra PDF viewer works great with LaTeX and the best part is.......
>
>____________________
>
>i started using \lipsum{} yesterday (it's so Useful!)
> and it's a huge puzzle WHY... i've been using LaTex
> on and off for 30+ years and
> (WHY? and)
> How did i live without it for SO long????
>
>With the document i'm working on now... LaTeX does NOT
>function properly without the \lipsum{} text stuck at the end!!!
>
>

If you learning LaTeX, could you maybe also learn to use that ONE
empty line to separate things, not two or three as you routinely do?
It would improve my reading experience.

>\lipsum{}
>\lipsum{3} ---- i don't get what the Arg. does.
>
> >>> 3 specifies the number of paragraphs you want filled
>with this dummy text. ------- really? i've tried 1,3,5 there, and the
>result seems the same.
>
>
>
>___________________________
>
>i guess this Text must be carefully crafted to avoid making real sense!
>___________________________
>
> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing
>elit. Ut purus elit, vestibulum ut, placerat ac, adipiscing vitae,
>felis. Curabitur dictum gravida mauris.
>
>Nam arcu libero, nonummy eget, consectetuer id, vulputate a, magna.
>
>Donec vehicula augue eu neque. Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique
>senectus et netus
>et malesuada fames ac turpis egestas. Mauris ut leo. Cras viverra metus
>rhoncus sem.
>
>Nulla et lectus vestibulum urna fringilla ultrices.
>Phasellus eu tellus sit amet tortor
>gravida placerat.
>
>Integer sapien est, iaculis in, pretium quis, viverra ac, nunc. Praesent
>eget sem vel leo ultrices bibendum. Aenean faucibus. Morbi dolor nulla,
>malesuada eu,
>pulvinar at, mollis ac, nulla. Curabitur auctor semper nulla. Donec
>varius orci eget risus.
>
>Duis nibh mi, congue eu, accumsan eleifend, sagittis quis, diam. Duis
>eget orci sit amet
>orci dignissim rutrum.
>
>
>
> Nam dui ligula, fringilla a, euismod sodales, sollicitudin
>vel, wisi. Morbi auctor lorem
>non justo. Nam lacus libero, pretium at, lobortis vitae, ultricies et,
>tellus. Donec aliquet,
>tortor sed accumsan bibendum, erat ligula aliquet magna, vitae ornare
>odio metus a mi.
>Morbi ac orci et nisl hendrerit mollis. Suspendisse ut massa. Cras nec
>ante. Pellentesque
>a nulla. Cum sociis natoque penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes,
>nascetur ridiculus
>mus. Aliquam tincidunt urna. Nulla ullamcorper vestibulum turpis.
>Pellentesque cursus
>luctus mauris.
>
>
>Nulla malesuada porttitor diam.
>
>
>__________________________________
>
> > Nam arcu libero, nonummy eget, consectetuer id, vulputate a, magna.
>
> in a professional team... Some libero's make real good money?

Subject: Re: \lipsum{} ----- How did i live without it for SO long?
From: Pieter van Oostrum
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex, de.comp.text.tex, sci.lang, alt.usage.english
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HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> writes:
>
> With the document i'm working on now... LaTeX does NOT
> function properly without the \lipsum{} text stuck at the end!!!

I have no idea what you mean by this.

>
> \lipsum{}
> \lipsum{3} ---- i don't get what the Arg. does.
>
> >>> 3 specifies the number of paragraphs you want filled
> with this dummy text. ------- really? i've tried
> 1,3,5 there, and the result seems the same.

You are wrong. \lipsum doesn't have an argument like this. You can however give an optional argument (or two), like \lipsum[3], which typesets the 3rd paragraph of lipsum's text, or \lipsum[1-4], which typesets the first 4 paragraphs. Read the documentation for mor info.
--
Pieter van Oostrum <pieter@vanoostrum.org>
www: http://pieter.vanoostrum.org/
PGP key: [8DAE142BE17999C4]

Subject: Re: \lipsum{} ----- How did i live without it for SO long?
From: HenHanna
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 19:50 UTC
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On 7/22/2024 5:45 AM, Pieter van Oostrum wrote:
> HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> writes:
>>
>> With the document i'm working on now... LaTeX does NOT
>> function properly without the \lipsum{} text stuck at the end!!!
>
> I have no idea what you mean by this.
>
>>
>> \lipsum{}
>> \lipsum{3} ---- i don't get what the Arg. does.
>>
>> >>> 3 specifies the number of paragraphs you want filled
>> with this dummy text. ------- really? i've tried
>> 1,3,5 there, and the result seems the same.
>
> You are wrong. \lipsum doesn't have an argument like this. You can however give an optional argument (or two), like \lipsum[3], which typesets the 3rd paragraph of lipsum's text, or \lipsum[1-4], which typesets the first 4 paragraphs. Read the documentation for mor info.

thank you ...

Without the \lipsum{} text stuck at the end,
the last page (or two?) of my document would have
lots of spaces between paragraphs....

Maybe the same effect (the fix) could be achieved by putting
\vfill at the end.

Subject: Re: \lipsum{} ----- How did i live without it for SO long?
From: Ulrich D i e z
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Subject: Re: \lipsum{} ----- How did i live without it for SO long?
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[Followup-To: comp.text.tex]

I guess your posting and my reply tp it is appropriate only at
comp.text.tex .

de.comp.text.tex - a German-language newsgroup while the postings are
written in English language.
sci.lang - the matter discussed is off topic there.
alt.usage.english - the matter discussed is off topic there.

HenHanna wrote:

> On 7/22/2024 5:45 AM, Pieter van Oostrum wrote:
>> HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> writes:
>>>
>>> With the document i'm working on now... LaTeX does NOT
>>> function properly without the \lipsum{} text stuck at the end!!!
>>
>> I have no idea what you mean by this.
>>
>>>
>>> \lipsum{}
>>> \lipsum{3} ---- i don't get what the Arg. does.
>>>
>>> >>> 3 specifies the number of paragraphs you want filled
>>> with this dummy text. ------- really? i've tried
>>> 1,3,5 there, and the result seems the same.
>>
>> You are wrong. \lipsum doesn't have an argument like this. You can however give an optional argument (or two), like \lipsum[3], which typesets the 3rd paragraph of lipsum's text, or \lipsum[1-4], which typesets the first 4 paragraphs. Read the documentation for mor info.
>
>
> thank you ...
>
> Without the \lipsum{} text stuck at the end,
> the last page (or two?) of my document would have
> lots of spaces between paragraphs....
>
> Maybe the same effect (the fix) could be achieved by putting
> \vfill at the end.

Don't give \parskip that much stretchability?

Or use \raggedbottom instead of \flushbottom ?

(When I use \flushbottom, then I tend to set \textheight so that the
difference of \textheight and \topskip is an integer multiple of
\baselineskip.)

Sincerely

Ulrich

Subject: Re: \lipsum{} ----- How did i live without it for SO long?
From: Peter Flynn
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Please stop cross-posting to sci.lang and alt.usage.english
They are not relevant to these questions. Nor is de.com.text.tex
but at least that is about TeX. The others are not.

On 22/07/2024 20:50, HenHanna wrote:
[...]
> Without the \lipsum{} text stuck at the end, the last page (or two?)
> of my document would have lots of spaces between paragraphs....

OK. Now you have asked the question we can understand.

This is not normal behaviour. \end{document} will fill up the bottom of
the last page with white-space. If you see something else, then you must
be using some extra setting that you have not told us about.

> Maybe the same effect (the fix) could be achieved by putting \vfill
> at the end.

Yes, but that is not normally required. You need to find the setting
that is causing the paragraphs to be spread apart, and turn it off.

Peter

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