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Subject: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
From: Mickey D
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From: mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net (Mickey D)
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Subject: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
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https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en

All I wanted to do was print the web page to PDF.
But nothing results except an empty page with a header & footer.

What am I doing wrong?

Subject: Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
From: micky
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Subject: Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 14:33:32 -0500, Mickey D
<mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> wrote:

>https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en
>
>All I wanted to do was print the web page to PDF.
>But nothing results except an empty page with a header & footer.
>
>What am I doing wrong?

What are you doing right? That is, how are you attempting to do this?

Ctrl-P ?
Save Page as, and having the file name end in pdf ?
Print Screen ?

Subject: Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
From: Paul
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On Sat, 11/9/2024 2:33 PM, Mickey D wrote:
> https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en
>
> All I wanted to do was print the web page to PDF.
> But nothing results except an empty page with a header & footer.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>

The page is not designed to be printed.

"Save As, Web Page Complete" will not work. If you watch,
the transfer during that, even has some trouble with the
static files, let alone anything else.

Some of the pages are delivered by AJAX or Fetch. They put
up a background image first, as part of "Discovery" and
"Making the user wait until the foreground image appears".
Then the foreground image is acquired via AJAX.

The PDF printer is intolerant of these behaviors and
every time you print, the page will be missing different
things. The PDF print will be a shambles, and not even
remotely the correct length.

You can't cheat by using a large-sized virtual screen.
Won't help.

If you open in Seamonkey Composer, using the URL, all the
pictures are missing.

Don't waste your time, in other words.

Paul

Subject: Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
From: Newyana2
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On 11/9/2024 2:33 PM, Mickey D wrote:
> https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en
>
> All I wanted to do was print the web page to PDF.
> But nothing results except an empty page with a header & footer.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>

I don't know if this will satifsy, but it looks pretty good to
me if I disable CSS, select all, copy, paste into Libre Office
Writer. From there it can be converted to PDF.

Subject: Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
From: Lawrence D'Oliv
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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 01:30 UTC
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On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 14:33:32 -0500, Mickey D wrote:

> https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en

If you do “Tools → Page Info” (or CTRL/I), under the “Media” tab, you
can select all the relevant image files and download them.

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From: nospam@needed.invalid (Paul)
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Subject: Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
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On Sat, 11/9/2024 8:30 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 14:33:32 -0500, Mickey D wrote:
>
>> https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en
>
> If you do “Tools → Page Info” (or CTRL/I), under the “Media” tab, you
> can select all the relevant image files and download them.
>

The items blob:https: that are grayed out, how would you get those ?

They must be grayed out for a reason (such as "not cached").

If you want to hunt through "cache2", maybe they are anonymized
and stored in there. But the presentation gives the impression
"not cached" means also, not stored in cache2 either, as otherwise
there would be no delays during any subsequent viewings of the page.

"Blob: https is not a protocol, but a string of tags generated by the
blob object in HTML5. The browser will parse the data contained in the blob object internally.

Each blob video has both a blob URL and a regular URL. For example:

Blob URL: blob:https://www.youtube.com/e2f70957-e151-40c3-8582-65ac22bc3bbb
Normal URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfXWsabC-54

Blob URL: blob:https://twitter.com/b68eadeb-21be-4e78-8516-03ed37c066d1
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Normal URL: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7b56dr
"

There is some convoluted way, described here.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/36534368/blob-url-to-image

I looked at what may be the file in cache2, but it is not a valid JPG
and there is evidence of some crypto thing at the end of the JPG file.

Paul

Subject: Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
From: Jack
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On 09/11/2024 19:33, Mickey D wrote:
> https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en
>
> All I wanted to do was print the web page to PDF.
> But nothing results except an empty page with a header & footer.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>

Press function key F9 and then you can print it. You won't get images
but it is in reader's view so you get only text.

Subject: Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
From: Jeff Barnett
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On 11/9/2024 8:45 PM, Jack wrote:
> On 09/11/2024 19:33, Mickey D wrote:
>> https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en
>>
>> All I wanted to do was print the web page to PDF.
>> But nothing results except an empty page with a header & footer.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>
> Press function key F9 and then you can print it. You won't get images
> but it is in reader's view so you get only text.

Interesting. I tried F9 on a few other busy pages such as HP.com and
noticed no changes. I'm curious: What, exactly, does F9 toggle? TIA for
any additional information.
--
Jeff Barnett

Subject: Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 03:45:08 +0000, Jack wrote:

> Press function key F9 and then you can print it.

Doesn’t do anything for me. What’s it supposed to do?

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On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 14:33:32 -0500, Mickey D wrote:

> https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en

I just tried “Enter Reader View” (CTRL-ALT-R). When I try to print the
result, I get 15 pages of text, but without the background images.

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Mickey D wrote:

> https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-
> franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en
>
> All I wanted to do was print the web page to PDF.

It's not so much a web page, more of an interactive slideshow generated
by mess of obfuscated javascript.

> But nothing results except an empty page with a header & footer.
> What am I doing wrong?

The best I could get was to do "View/Page Style/No Style" in firefox
the ctrl-a, ctrl-c to copy everything, go into LibreOffice Writer [other
word processors are available] and ctrl-v to paste it, then save as pdf.

Subject: Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
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Mickey D wrote:
> https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en
>
> All I wanted to do was print the web page to PDF.
> But nothing results except an empty page with a header & footer.
>
> What am I doing wrong?

I use Cutepdf as a pdf printer and print with that and I get all the images.
There are other pdf printer programs.
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Jack <derfdswe@hjuhyhgtfr.com> wrote:
> On 09/11/2024 19:33, Mickey D wrote:
> > https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en
> >
> > All I wanted to do was print the web page to PDF.
> > But nothing results except an empty page with a header & footer.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?

> Press function key F9 and then you can print it. You won't get images
> but it is in reader's view so you get only text.

Ah, the reader view as shown in the end of URL with its document(?)
icon. Not all web site will have it though!

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Subject: Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
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Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> wrote:
> On 11/9/2024 8:45 PM, Jack wrote:
> > On 09/11/2024 19:33, Mickey D wrote:
> >> https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en
> >>
> >> All I wanted to do was print the web page to PDF.
> >> But nothing results except an empty page with a header & footer.
> >>
> >> What am I doing wrong?
> >>
> >
> > Press function key F9 and then you can print it. You won't get images
> > but it is in reader's view so you get only text.

> Interesting. I tried F9 on a few other busy pages such as HP.com and
> noticed no changes. I'm curious: What, exactly, does F9 toggle? TIA for
> any additional information.

https://www.hp.com/us-en/home.html doesn't support reader view (aka F9). Try the
original
https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en
web page.
https://news.google.com/topics/CAAqJggKIiBDQkFTRWdvSUwyMHZNRFZxYUdjU0FtVnVHZ0pWVXlnQVAB?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
worked too. Not all web sites will have this reader view feature.
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Subject: Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
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On 10/11/2024 3:33 am, Mickey D wrote:
> <https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en>
>
> All I wanted to do was print the web page to PDF.
> But nothing results except an empty page with a header & footer.

I estify that Firefox failed to render this web-page in its print
preview... :)

Possibly something to do CSS and Javascript. Brings back memory when
Firefox was still very new....

Subject: Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
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Mickey D explained on 11/9/2024 :
> https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en
>
> All I wanted to do was print the web page to PDF.
> But nothing results except an empty page with a header & footer.
>
> What am I doing wrong?

If you use the Firefox extension FireShot and select the "Save Page As"
option, it can be done without any problmes....

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Subject: Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?
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On 09/11/2024 22:36, Paul wrote:
> On Sat, 11/9/2024 2:33 PM, Mickey D wrote:
>> https://artsandculture.google.com/story/the-last-voyage-of-sir-john-franklin-derbyshire-record-office/jAVxEd0YGOfbJQ?hl=en
>>
>> All I wanted to do was print the web page to PDF.
>> But nothing results except an empty page with a header & footer.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>
> The page is not designed to be printed.

I'd put it the other way round. The page is designed NOT to be printed.
The "venetian-blind" presentation of text and image involves Javascript
that cannot be represented in print (which is what PDF tries to do).

The only solution is to download the HTML, Tidy it to XML, and then
write some XSLT to pull it apart and isolate
image-text-image-text-image-tex, etc, then reformat it for (eg) LaTeX to
print it.

Even Vivaldi's "Capture Page" feature fails to work.

The page was created by Google for Derbyshire Record Office. They should
be ashamed of themselves. Maybe a polite email (or better, a physical
paper letter sent by Recorded Delivery) would get a reply from them.

Peter

>
> "Save As, Web Page Complete" will not work. If you watch,
> the transfer during that, even has some trouble with the
> static files, let alone anything else.
>
> Some of the pages are delivered by AJAX or Fetch. They put
> up a background image first, as part of "Discovery" and
> "Making the user wait until the foreground image appears".
> Then the foreground image is acquired via AJAX.
>
> The PDF printer is intolerant of these behaviors and
> every time you print, the page will be missing different
> things. The PDF print will be a shambles, and not even
> remotely the correct length.
>
> You can't cheat by using a large-sized virtual screen.
> Won't help.
>
> If you open in Seamonkey Composer, using the URL, all the
> pictures are missing.
>
> Don't waste your time, in other words.
>
> Paul
>
>

Your true value depends entirely on what you are compared with.

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Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?	Mickey D
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Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?	Paul
Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?	Jack
Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?	Jeff Barnett
Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?	Ant
Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?	Ant
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Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?	Andy Burns
Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?	Bill Bradshaw
Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?	Mr. Man-wai Chang
Re: Is there any way Windows Firefox can print this web page to PDF?	Zo