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Subject: graphic viewer
From: Ira Lieberman
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I'm trying to find a graphic viewer for Macs which is similar in
nature to Irfanview for Wind Dose, and will run on 10.6 and earlier. I
remember there were several progs back in the day, but I don't
remember what they were. Any suggestions?

=IML=

Moogs! Would you buy it for a quarter?

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In article <sieqoh1abvrs1mg904nj2c9j0ld2p1csg0@4ax.com>, Ira Lieberman
<iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> I'm trying to find a graphic viewer for Macs which is similar in
> nature to Irfanview for Wind Dose, and will run on 10.6 and earlier. I
> remember there were several progs back in the day, but I don't
> remember what they were. Any suggestions?

preview, included with mac os, can read many formats and make basic
adjustments.

to just view it, select the image and tap the space bar.

Subject: Re: graphic viewer
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Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> I'm trying to find a graphic viewer for Macs which is similar in
> nature to Irfanview for Wind Dose, and will run on 10.6 and earlier.

I don't know Irfanview.

"Back in the day", GraphicConverter was *the* thing besides the OS provided
Preview.

:wq! PoC

Subject: Re: graphic viewer
From: Liz Tuddenham
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Organization: Poppy Records
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 09:44 UTC
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<poc@pocnet.net> wrote:

> Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to find a graphic viewer for Macs which is similar in
> > nature to Irfanview for Wind Dose, and will run on 10.6 and earlier.
>
> I don't know Irfanview.
>
> "Back in the day", GraphicConverter was *the* thing besides the OS provided
> Preview.

I'm still using Graphic Converter V4.4 on a beige G3 with OS8.6, it
copes with most photographic formats, even those that weren't around
when OS8.6 was current. For everyday use, either PhotoDeluxe or
Photoshop LE (both were freebies) do most of what I need.

--
~ Liz Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

Subject: Re: graphic viewer
From: Ira Lieberman
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From: iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com (Ira Lieberman)
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On 5 Dec 2022 09:32:59 GMT, poc@pocnet.net wrote:

>Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to find a graphic viewer for Macs which is similar in
>> nature to Irfanview for Wind Dose, and will run on 10.6 and earlier.
>
>I don't know Irfanview.
>
>"Back in the day", GraphicConverter was *the* thing besides the OS provided
>Preview.
>
>:wq! PoC

Thanks to all who replied. I knew about Preview, but it's just not
what I wanted. What I needed to remember was GraphicConverter. It's
been a long time since I was a serious Mac user, so thanks much for
jogging my memory. There were lots of commercial progs that worked
well, but this is for a friend who doesn't have a lot of money to
spend, so shareware/freeware is the way to go, and GraphicConverter
was the best of the lot, IIRC.

=IML=

Moogs! Would you buy it for a quarter?

Subject: Re: graphic viewer
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On 2022-12-07 22:47:54 +0000, Ira Lieberman said:
> On 5 Dec 2022 09:32:59 GMT, poc@pocnet.net wrote:
>> Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm trying to find a graphic viewer for Macs which is similar in
>>> nature to Irfanview for Wind Dose, and will run on 10.6 and earlier.
>>
>> I don't know Irfanview.
>>
>> "Back in the day", GraphicConverter was *the* thing besides the OS provided
>> Preview.
>>
>> :wq! PoC
>
> Thanks to all who replied. I knew about Preview, but it's just not
> what I wanted. What I needed to remember was GraphicConverter. It's
> been a long time since I was a serious Mac user, so thanks much for
> jogging my memory. There were lots of commercial progs that worked
> well, but this is for a friend who doesn't have a lot of money to
> spend, so shareware/freeware is the way to go, and GraphicConverter
> was the best of the lot, IIRC.

It depends on what you actually want to do. GraphicConverter is great,
but costs money. GIMP is free, but perhaps not as good (nor as
'Mac-like').

Subject: Re: graphic viewer
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Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:

> It depends on what you actually want to do. GraphicConverter is great, but
> costs money. GIMP is free, but perhaps not as good (nor as 'Mac-like').

GC can open and display almost any graphics format file. GIMP couldn't. So, yes,
it costs money but it's a fair price.

:wq! PoC

Subject: Re: graphic viewer
From: Liz Tuddenham
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Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> On 2022-12-07 22:47:54 +0000, Ira Lieberman said:
> > On 5 Dec 2022 09:32:59 GMT, poc@pocnet.net wrote:
> >> Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm trying to find a graphic viewer for Macs which is similar in
> >>> nature to Irfanview for Wind Dose, and will run on 10.6 and earlier.
> >>
> >> I don't know Irfanview.
> >>
> >> "Back in the day", GraphicConverter was *the* thing besides the OS provided
> >> Preview.
> >>
> >> :wq! PoC
> >
> > Thanks to all who replied. I knew about Preview, but it's just not
> > what I wanted. What I needed to remember was GraphicConverter. It's
> > been a long time since I was a serious Mac user, so thanks much for
> > jogging my memory. There were lots of commercial progs that worked
> > well, but this is for a friend who doesn't have a lot of money to
> > spend, so shareware/freeware is the way to go, and GraphicConverter
> > was the best of the lot, IIRC.
>
> It depends on what you actually want to do. GraphicConverter is great,
> but costs money. GIMP is free, but perhaps not as good (nor as
> 'Mac-like').

I think you will find that earlier (OS8 - 9) versions of Graphic
Converter are now free; just e-mail the developer and ask.

--
~ Liz Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

Subject: Re: graphic viewer
From: Ira Lieberman
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 13:02:24 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

>Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-12-07 22:47:54 +0000, Ira Lieberman said:
>> > On 5 Dec 2022 09:32:59 GMT, poc@pocnet.net wrote:
>> >> Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm trying to find a graphic viewer for Macs which is similar in
>> >>> nature to Irfanview for Wind Dose, and will run on 10.6 and earlier.
>> >>
>> >> I don't know Irfanview.
>> >>
>> >> "Back in the day", GraphicConverter was *the* thing besides the OS provided
>> >> Preview.
>> >>
>> >> :wq! PoC
>> >
>> > Thanks to all who replied. I knew about Preview, but it's just not
>> > what I wanted. What I needed to remember was GraphicConverter. It's
>> > been a long time since I was a serious Mac user, so thanks much for
>> > jogging my memory. There were lots of commercial progs that worked
>> > well, but this is for a friend who doesn't have a lot of money to
>> > spend, so shareware/freeware is the way to go, and GraphicConverter
>> > was the best of the lot, IIRC.
>>
>> It depends on what you actually want to do. GraphicConverter is great,
>> but costs money. GIMP is free, but perhaps not as good (nor as
>> 'Mac-like').
>
>I think you will find that earlier (OS8 - 9) versions of Graphic
>Converter are now free; just e-mail the developer and ask.

The older versions are available free, as you said, but you don't even
have to ask. If you download it from lemkesoft.de, there's a license
key for that version right there on the download page.

=IML=

Moogs! Would you buy it for a quarter?

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Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 13:02:24 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
> (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
>
> >Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2022-12-07 22:47:54 +0000, Ira Lieberman said:
> >> > On 5 Dec 2022 09:32:59 GMT, poc@pocnet.net wrote:
> >> >> Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm trying to find a graphic viewer for Macs which is similar in
> >> >>> nature to Irfanview for Wind Dose, and will run on 10.6 and earlier.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't know Irfanview.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Back in the day", GraphicConverter was *the* thing besides the OS
> >> >> provided Preview.
> >> >>
> >> >> :wq! PoC
> >> >
> >> > Thanks to all who replied. I knew about Preview, but it's just not
> >> > what I wanted. What I needed to remember was GraphicConverter. It's
> >> > been a long time since I was a serious Mac user, so thanks much for
> >> > jogging my memory. There were lots of commercial progs that worked
> >> > well, but this is for a friend who doesn't have a lot of money to
> >> > spend, so shareware/freeware is the way to go, and GraphicConverter
> >> > was the best of the lot, IIRC.
> >>
> >> It depends on what you actually want to do. GraphicConverter is great,
> >> but costs money. GIMP is free, but perhaps not as good (nor as
> >> 'Mac-like').
> >
> >I think you will find that earlier (OS8 - 9) versions of Graphic
> >Converter are now free; just e-mail the developer and ask.
>
> The older versions are available free, as you said, but you don't even
> have to ask. If you download it from lemkesoft.de, there's a license
> key for that version right there on the download page.

Even better. It's been a long time since I downloaded my copy and
either I had forgotten or things have changed since then.

--
~ Liz Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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"Liz Tuddenham" <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 13:02:24 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
> > (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
> >
> > >Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 2022-12-07 22:47:54 +0000, Ira Lieberman said:
> > >> > On 5 Dec 2022 09:32:59 GMT, poc@pocnet.net wrote:
> > >> >> Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I'm trying to find a graphic viewer for Macs which is similar in
> > >> >>> nature to Irfanview for Wind Dose, and will run on 10.6 and
earlier.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I don't know Irfanview.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "Back in the day", GraphicConverter was *the* thing besides the OS
> > >> >> provided Preview.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> :wq! PoC
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks to all who replied. I knew about Preview, but it's just not
> > >> > what I wanted. What I needed to remember was GraphicConverter. It's
> > >> > been a long time since I was a serious Mac user, so thanks much for
> > >> > jogging my memory. There were lots of commercial progs that worked
> > >> > well, but this is for a friend who doesn't have a lot of money to
> > >> > spend, so shareware/freeware is the way to go, and GraphicConverter
> > >> > was the best of the lot, IIRC.
> > >>
> > >> It depends on what you actually want to do. GraphicConverter is
great,
> > >> but costs money. GIMP is free, but perhaps not as good (nor as
> > >> 'Mac-like').
> > >
> > >I think you will find that earlier (OS8 - 9) versions of Graphic
> > >Converter are now free; just e-mail the developer and ask.
> >
> > The older versions are available free, as you said, but you don't even
> > have to ask. If you download it from lemkesoft.de, there's a license
> > key for that version right there on the download page.
>
> Even better. It's been a long time since I downloaded my copy and
> either I had forgotten or things have changed since then.

Did that work for you or are you still trying to find a version?

--
OldbieOne

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Subject: Re: graphic viewer
From: Ira Lieberman
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From: iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com (Ira Lieberman)
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 14:03:13 -0500, "OldbieOne" <me@here.com> wrote:

>
>"Liz Tuddenham" <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>news:1q2ovcw.1lhknmrets2psN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid...
>> Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 13:02:24 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
>> > (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
>> >
>> > >Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On 2022-12-07 22:47:54 +0000, Ira Lieberman said:
>> > >> > On 5 Dec 2022 09:32:59 GMT, poc@pocnet.net wrote:
>> > >> >> Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> I'm trying to find a graphic viewer for Macs which is similar in
>> > >> >>> nature to Irfanview for Wind Dose, and will run on 10.6 and
>earlier.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I don't know Irfanview.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> "Back in the day", GraphicConverter was *the* thing besides the OS
>> > >> >> provided Preview.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> :wq! PoC
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks to all who replied. I knew about Preview, but it's just not
>> > >> > what I wanted. What I needed to remember was GraphicConverter. It's
>> > >> > been a long time since I was a serious Mac user, so thanks much for
>> > >> > jogging my memory. There were lots of commercial progs that worked
>> > >> > well, but this is for a friend who doesn't have a lot of money to
>> > >> > spend, so shareware/freeware is the way to go, and GraphicConverter
>> > >> > was the best of the lot, IIRC.
>> > >>
>> > >> It depends on what you actually want to do. GraphicConverter is
>great,
>> > >> but costs money. GIMP is free, but perhaps not as good (nor as
>> > >> 'Mac-like').
>> > >
>> > >I think you will find that earlier (OS8 - 9) versions of Graphic
>> > >Converter are now free; just e-mail the developer and ask.
>> >
>> > The older versions are available free, as you said, but you don't even
>> > have to ask. If you download it from lemkesoft.de, there's a license
>> > key for that version right there on the download page.
>>
>> Even better. It's been a long time since I downloaded my copy and
>> either I had forgotten or things have changed since then.
>
>Did that work for you or are you still trying to find a version?

Thanks for asking. I passed it on to the friend who has the Mac in
question, but I haven't gotten any feedback from him yet as to how
well it works. I'll pass it on if/when he gives me any feedback.

=IML=

Moogs! Would you buy it for a quarter?

Subject: Re: graphic viewer
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In article <pe01sh9og27p26ls86qjo8g66la8ujulma@4ax.com>,
Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 14:03:13 -0500, "OldbieOne" <me@here.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Liz Tuddenham" <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:1q2ovcw.1lhknmrets2psN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid...
> >> Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 13:02:24 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
> >> > (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> On 2022-12-07 22:47:54 +0000, Ira Lieberman said:
> >> > >> > On 5 Dec 2022 09:32:59 GMT, poc@pocnet.net wrote:
> >> > >> >> Ira Lieberman <iml.removethis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> I'm trying to find a graphic viewer for Macs which is similar in
> >> > >> >>> nature to Irfanview for Wind Dose, and will run on 10.6 and
> >earlier.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> I don't know Irfanview.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> "Back in the day", GraphicConverter was *the* thing besides the OS
> >> > >> >> provided Preview.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> :wq! PoC
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Thanks to all who replied. I knew about Preview, but it's just not
> >> > >> > what I wanted. What I needed to remember was GraphicConverter. It's
> >> > >> > been a long time since I was a serious Mac user, so thanks much for
> >> > >> > jogging my memory. There were lots of commercial progs that worked
> >> > >> > well, but this is for a friend who doesn't have a lot of money to
> >> > >> > spend, so shareware/freeware is the way to go, and GraphicConverter
> >> > >> > was the best of the lot, IIRC.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> It depends on what you actually want to do. GraphicConverter is
> >great,
> >> > >> but costs money. GIMP is free, but perhaps not as good (nor as
> >> > >> 'Mac-like').
> >> > >
> >> > >I think you will find that earlier (OS8 - 9) versions of Graphic
> >> > >Converter are now free; just e-mail the developer and ask.
> >> >
> >> > The older versions are available free, as you said, but you don't even
> >> > have to ask. If you download it from lemkesoft.de, there's a license
> >> > key for that version right there on the download page.
> >>
> >> Even better. It's been a long time since I downloaded my copy and
> >> either I had forgotten or things have changed since then.
> >
> >Did that work for you or are you still trying to find a version?
>
> Thanks for asking. I passed it on to the friend who has the Mac in
> question, but I haven't gotten any feedback from him yet as to how
> well it works. I'll pass it on if/when he gives me any feedback.
>
> =IML=
>
> Moogs! Would you buy it for a quarter?

I'm late to the conversation I realize but I wanted to put in a good
word for Xee. If all you're interested in is viewing and not editing
images, this one can't be beat IMO. I know the original freeware version
works on Tiger through El Capitan, but you need the new pay version
(only $4 though) on Mojave (at least) and up.

For some reason the author got rid of left and right arrows in the
original version (for viewing images inside a folder), and you need to
use keyboard arrows for that task in the new one (go figure).

Subject	Author
graphic viewer	Ira Lieberman
Re: graphic viewer	nospam
Re: graphic viewer	poc
Re: graphic viewer	Liz Tuddenham
Re: graphic viewer	Ira Lieberman
Re: graphic viewer	Your Name
Re: graphic viewer	poc
Re: graphic viewer	Liz Tuddenham
Re: graphic viewer	Ira Lieberman
Re: graphic viewer	Liz Tuddenham
Re: graphic viewer	OldbieOne
Re: graphic viewer	Ira Lieberman
Re: graphic viewer	super70s