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Subject: Problems with latest Java RE update??
From: BungleBob
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 03:51 UTC

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From: bunglebob@thejungle.com (BungleBob)
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Subject: Problems with latest Java RE update??
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The Java preference panel popped up a notice about an update today
(Java RE 8 update 421 build 09), so I installed it, but it seems to be
buggy. After installation, the control panel simply crashes every time
you try to open it.

I reinstalled the previous version (Java RE 8 update 371) and that is
working fine.

Looks like it might be a good idea to skip this latest update.

Subject: Re: Problems with latest Java RE update??
From: Tyrone
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 04:24 UTC
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On Jul 20, 2024 at 11:51:40 PM EDT, "BungleBob" <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
wrote:

>
> The Java preference panel popped up a notice about an update today
> (Java RE 8 update 421 build 09), so I installed it, but it seems to be
> buggy. After installation, the control panel simply crashes every time
> you try to open it.
>
> I reinstalled the previous version (Java RE 8 update 371) and that is
> working fine.
>
> Looks like it might be a good idea to skip this latest update.

I would not install Java on any computer I own. I would not use any software
that requires Java.

Java is a nightmare of incompatible versions, as in "this app needs this
version of Java and that app needs that version of Java".

Java is a relic of the past and is not needed today.

Subject: Re: Problems with latest Java RE update??
From: BungleBob
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Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 05:55 UTC
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Subject: Re: Problems with latest Java RE update??
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On 2024-07-21 04:24:05 +0000, Tyrone said:
> On Jul 20, 2024 at 11:51:40 PM EDT, "BungleBob" <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> The Java preference panel popped up a notice about an update today
>> (Java RE 8 update 421 build 09), so I installed it, but it seems to be
>> buggy. After installation, the control panel simply crashes every time
>> you try to open it.
>>
>> I reinstalled the previous version (Java RE 8 update 371) and that is
>> working fine.
>>
>> Looks like it might be a good idea to skip this latest update.
>
> I would not install Java on any computer I own. I would not use any software
> that requires Java.
>
> Java is a nightmare of incompatible versions, as in "this app needs this
> version of Java and that app needs that version of Java".
>
> Java is a relic of the past and is not needed today.

Maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately there are still websites I need to use
that do require the plugin and Oracle are still updating it.

Subject: Re: Problems with latest Java RE update??
From: Jörg Lorenz
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 06:38 UTC
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On 21.07.24 05:51, BungleBob wrote:
>
> The Java preference panel popped up a notice about an update today
> (Java RE 8 update 421 build 09), so I installed it, but it seems to be
> buggy. After installation, the control panel simply crashes every time
> you try to open it.
>
> I reinstalled the previous version (Java RE 8 update 371) and that is
> working fine.
>
> Looks like it might be a good idea to skip this latest update.

For what purpose do you think you need Java?
Private users hardly ever need Java.

--
"De gustibus non est disputandum."

Subject: Re: Problems with latest Java RE update??
From: Percival John Hackwo
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Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 17:46 UTC
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On Jul 20, 2024 at 8:51:40 PM PDT, "BungleBob" <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
wrote:

I installed the update on my M1 Studio on Jul 17th. I haven't had any problems
you described. I can run the Preference panel, click on the Java Icon, and the
updater app runs. It says I'm running the current release and doesn't offer an
update.

Have you tried installing the update on a VM of your machine with all your
startup applications disabled (e.g. login with SHIFT depressed)?
Have you tried installing the update on a VM of your machine running an
earlier release of MacOS?

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From: bunglebob@thejungle.com (BungleBob)
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Subject: Re: Problems with latest Java RE update??
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On 2024-07-21 17:46:21 +0000, Percival John Hackworth said:
> On Jul 20, 2024 at 8:51:40â¯PM PDT, "BungleBob" <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> The Java preference panel popped up a notice about an update today
>> (Java RE 8 update 421 build 09), so I installed it, but it seems to be
>> buggy. After installation, the control panel simply crashes every time
>> you try to open it.
>>
>> I reinstalled the previous version (Java RE 8 update 371) and that is
>> working fine.
>>
>> Looks like it might be a good idea to skip this latest update.
>
> I installed the update on my M1 Studio on Jul 17th. I haven't had any problems
> you described. I can run the Preference panel, click on the Java Icon, and the
> updater app runs. It says I'm running the current release and doesn't offer an
> update.
>
> Have you tried installing the update on a VM of your machine with all your
> startup applications disabled (e.g. login with SHIFT depressed)?
> Have you tried installing the update on a VM of your machine running an
> earlier release of MacOS?

Hmmmm. Maybe it's just an issues with Intel and/or High Sierra Macs.

I did trying unstaling the old version and then the new version, but
that made no difference. The control panel still kept crashing when
trying to open.

Subject	Author
Problems with latest Java RE update??	BungleBob
Re: Problems with latest Java RE update??	Tyrone
Re: Problems with latest Java RE update??	BungleBob
Re: Problems with latest Java RE update??	Jörg Lorenz
Re: Problems with latest Java RE update??	Percival John Hackworth
Re: Problems with latest Java RE update??	BungleBob