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Subject: Re: AI: "Apple Intelligence" - personal and private + ChatGPT 4o
From: Alan
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 23:37 UTC
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From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: AI: "Apple Intelligence" - personal and private + ChatGPT 4o
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:37:16 -0700
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On 2024-06-11 15:10, Your Name wrote:
> On 2024-06-11 21:42:25 +0000, Alan Browne said:
>
>> On 2024-06-11 16:33, Your Name wrote:
>>> On 2024-06-11 12:09:40 +0000, Alan Browne said:
>>
>>>> But adding features is where they have to go to keep relevant and
>>>> abreast of the competition if not passing it.
>>>
>>> AI is not a "feature". It's just another useless bandwagon-jumping
>>> gimmick to sell yet another new phone to stupid people. Thankfully the
>>
>> Given my experience with it (ChatGPT), and given the failings of
>> "helpful" features such as Siri, it's plain you're complaining w/o
>> knowing what it's all about and what it can and cannot do.
>
> The point was that 95% of users don't care what it can and cannot do,
> even if they understood it.
>
> "Artificial intelligence" (an oxymoron) is mainly for those who don't
> have any real intelligence and/or are too lazy to do things themselves.
> Same with "smart" devices, which are mostly just incredibly stupid.
>
>
>
>
>>> silliness can (reportedly) be turned off ... yet something else I
>>> need to include on the growing "turn off" list for on every device I
>>> set up for people.  :-(
>>
>> When you setup for "people" you should let them decide what they want
>> - not impose your desires and prejudices upon them.
>
> The people I set up devices for are tech novices who just want to use
> the devices for simple things (like 95% of users do). The fewer
> complications and pointless "features" there are, the better it is for
> them ... and, yes, for me as well.
>
> Time Machine gets turned off, touch gestures on the mouse (other than
> scrolling up / down) get turned off, as did the old "squeeze me" button,
> etc. and so now will this useless AI nonsense.
>
> If it's something they specifically want or actually need, then it can
> get turned back on. That is what they pay me to know as their tech
> expert. The reality is that none of the things I turn off has ever
> actually needed to be turned on again ... because they *are* just
> marketing gimmicks that most normal people simply do not need nor want.
>
>

Wow.

So no one ever learns anything new.

Got it.

Subject: Re: Insomniacal Mac
From: super70s
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 02:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: Insomniacal Mac
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 21:17:26 -0500
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On 2024-06-11 20:40:44 +0000, Your Name said:

> In ye olde days of MacOS 9 and early MacOS X I used a great syncing app
> that was very fast,

Was it ChronoSync by any chance? I still use that to back up my Tiger system.

I always used Maxtor external HDs (since acquired by Seagate) with my
old systems and they had this "One Touch" backup feature with provided
software, but I never used that. But all you had to do was touch a
button on the external to back everything up.

Subject: Re: Insomniacal Mac
From: Your Name
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
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Subject: Re: Insomniacal Mac
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On 2024-06-12 02:17:26 +0000, super70s said:
> On 2024-06-11 20:40:44 +0000, Your Name said:
>>
>> In ye olde days of MacOS 9 and early MacOS X I used a great syncing app
>> that was very fast,
>
> Was it ChronoSync by any chance? I still use that to back up my Tiger system.
>
> I always used Maxtor external HDs (since acquired by Seagate) with my
> old systems and they had this "One Touch" backup feature with provided
> software, but I never used that. But all you had to do was touch a
> button on the external to back everything up.

It was either "ChronoSync" or more likely "Synchronize! Pro". I went
through a few apps testing them until I found one I was happy with.

I probably need to do that again so I can ditch the slow
CarbonCopyCloner (only use that when doing an initial full bootable
backup). I did try "SyncFolders Pro", various versions, but it is
utterly useless and never finds any new / altered files to copy.

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