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Subject: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio
From: vallor
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 02:29 UTC

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Hello,

So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.

It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.

Is there a way to set that up in the gui, or do I need to set up tmutil
jobs in crontab? Or...?

Thanks,

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Subject: Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio
From: Alan
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 06:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio
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On 2024-12-23 18:29, vallor wrote:
> Hello,
>
> So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
> Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.
>
> It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
> much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.
>
> Is there a way to set that up in the gui, or do I need to set up tmutil
> jobs in crontab? Or...?
>
> Thanks,
>

No.

Time Machine backs up every hour.

What you are looking at is how it culls it's backups.

Subject: Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio
From: Percival John Hackwo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 08:19 UTC
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On Dec 23, 2024 at 6:29:13 PM PST, "vallor" <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
> Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.
>
> It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
> much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.
>
> Is there a way to set that up in the gui, or do I need to set up tmutil
> jobs in crontab? Or...?
>
> Thanks,

I use TimeMachineEditor to set my own schedule of when Time Machine runs.

https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/26704/timemachineeditor

You turn off the automatic scheduler and set your own using the Editor. It
creates a Launch schedule to at specific intervals or on a calendar intervals.
I currently take Time Machine backups at 3 hour intervals throughout the day.

The initial thought for the built-in schedule is that TM would run hourly
during "normal working hours", then infrequently after hours. Backups older
than 24 hours are consolidated to a single backup. Backups older than 3 months
are consolidated to weekly backups.

Apple has articles on how it runs on their site and this article goes into
more detail. Howard also has utilities to check Time Machine.

https://eclecticlight.co/2023/03/01/how-does-time-machine-make-a-backup/
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Subject: Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio
From: vallor
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 14:53 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 22:39:27 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
<vkdkuv$1n1v8$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 2024-12-23 18:29, vallor wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
>> Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.
>>
>> It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
>> much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.
>>
>> Is there a way to set that up in the gui, or do I need to set up tmutil
>> jobs in crontab? Or...?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
> No.
>
> Time Machine backs up every hour.
>
> What you are looking at is how it culls it's backups.

Unless I'm mistaken, that turns out not to be the case. If you
look under "options" in System > General > Time Machine, you'll
see four options for frequency of backup: Manual, Hourly, Daily, Weekly.

I set it to "Manual", then used TME to set backups for every 6 hours.

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From: vallor@cultnix.org (vallor)
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Subject: Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio
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On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 08:19:04 GMT, Percival John Hackworth
<pjh@nanoworks.com> wrote in <Y7uaP.52234$Uup4.3003@fx10.iad>:

> On Dec 23, 2024 at 6:29:13 PM PST, "vallor" <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
>> Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.
>>
>> It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
>> much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.
>>
>> Is there a way to set that up in the gui, or do I need to set up tmutil
>> jobs in crontab? Or...?
>>
>> Thanks,
>
> I use TimeMachineEditor to set my own schedule of when Time Machine
> runs.
>
> https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/26704/timemachineeditor
>
> You turn off the automatic scheduler and set your own using the Editor.
> It creates a Launch schedule to at specific intervals or on a calendar
> intervals.
> I currently take Time Machine backups at 3 hour intervals throughout the
> day.
>
> The initial thought for the built-in schedule is that TM would run
> hourly during "normal working hours", then infrequently after hours.
> Backups older than 24 hours are consolidated to a single backup. Backups
> older than 3 months are consolidated to weekly backups.
>
> Apple has articles on how it runs on their site and this article goes
> into more detail. Howard also has utilities to check Time Machine.
>
> https://eclecticlight.co/2023/03/01/how-does-time-machine-make-a-backup/

Thank you very much. No trouble installing and setting up TME, once I got
past the annoying ads on macupdate.com. (Among other things, it tried
to get me to install Avast -- are you kidding me? ;)

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-v

Subject: Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio
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On 2024-12-24, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
> Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.
>
> It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
> much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.

Hourly isn't too much. 🤣 Hourly backups let you undelete files you just
deleted, or roll back to a version of the file you modified. And an hourly
frequency means incremental backup will be smaller and faster. So I
really have to wonder what makes you claim they are "too much"...

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On 2024-12-24, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>
> Thank you very much. No trouble installing and setting up TME, once I got
> past the annoying ads on macupdate.com. (Among other things, it tried
> to get me to install Avast -- are you kidding me? ;)

It never ceases to amaze me how many people are just bumbling around the
web with no ad blocker... Bunch of masochists!

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From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
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Subject: Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio
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On 2024-12-24 06:53, vallor wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 22:39:27 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
> <vkdkuv$1n1v8$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> On 2024-12-23 18:29, vallor wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
>>> Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.
>>>
>>> It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
>>> much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to set that up in the gui, or do I need to set up tmutil
>>> jobs in crontab? Or...?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>> No.
>>
>> Time Machine backs up every hour.
>>
>> What you are looking at is how it culls it's backups.
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, that turns out not to be the case. If you
> look under "options" in System > General > Time Machine, you'll
> see four options for frequency of backup: Manual, Hourly, Daily, Weekly.
>
> I set it to "Manual", then used TME to set backups for every 6 hours.
>

Ah!

I hadn't notice that option. It must be fairly new.

Thanks!

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On 2024-12-24 10:02, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2024-12-24, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> So I have Time Machine backups on our Mac Studio backing up to our
>> Synology DiskStation. But now I'm puzzled.
>>
>> It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
>> much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.
>
> Hourly isn't too much. 🤣 Hourly backups let you undelete files you just
> deleted, or roll back to a version of the file you modified. And an hourly
> frequency means incremental backup will be smaller and faster. So I
> really have to wonder what makes you claim they are "too much"...
>

Especially when you realize that it does do backup culling to avoid
using TOO much storage.

:-)

Subject: Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio
From: Jörg Lorenz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Camembert Normand aus Lait Cru
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:58 UTC
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On 24.12.24 03:29, vallor wrote:
> It has the option to back up hourly, daily, or weekly. Hourly is too
> much, and daily is too little -- I'd like to back up every 6 hours.

Keep the HD plugged and it does not matter. The amount of data remains
the same. Hourly is a very reasonable period.

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Subject	Author
Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio	vallor
Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio	Alan
Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio	vallor
Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio	Alan
Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio	Percival John Hackworth
Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio	vallor
Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio	Jolly Roger
Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio	Jolly Roger
Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio	Alan
Re: Time Machine frequency on Mac Studio	Jörg Lorenz