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* FarewellAlan Browne
+- Re: Farewell*Hemidactylus*
+- Re: FarewellJörg Lorenz
`* Re: Farewellbadgolferman
 +* Re: FarewellChris
 |`- Re: Farewellsticks
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  +* Re: Farewellbadgolferman
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  |    +- Re: FarewellJolly Roger
  |    `- Re: FarewellAlan
  `- Re: FarewellJohn Hill

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Subject: Farewell
From: Alan Browne
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
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Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 20:19 UTC
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I'll check in again ... June? TBD.

Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!

--
"It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
Winston Churchill

Subject: Re: Farewell
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Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>
> I'll check in again ... June? TBD.
>
> Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!
>
Yeah usenet is toast. Don’t look back.

Subject: Re: Farewell
From: Jörg Lorenz
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From: hugybear@gmx.net (Jörg Lorenz)
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On 01.12.24 21:19, Alan Browne wrote:
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> I'll check in again ... June? TBD.
>
> Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!

Take care!
The first couple of days will be like hell but soon you will forget you
were ever here.

--
"De gustibus non est disputandum."

Subject: Re: Farewell
From: badgolferman
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From: REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com (badgolferman)
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Alan Browne wrote:

>
>I'll check in again ... June? TBD.
>
>Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!

Announcing you are leaving a group is much like announcing you have
killfiled someone. It's a weak attempt to exercise some power over
others.

Subject: Re: Farewell
From: Chris
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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote:
>
>>
>> I'll check in again ... June? TBD.
>>
>> Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!
>
> Announcing you are leaving a group is much like announcing you have
> killfiled someone. It's a weak attempt to exercise some power over
> others.

Not at all. It's simply a reflection of his exasperation and a potential
signal for others to concur or not.

I'm of a similar opinion to Alan. Reasonable discourse is functionally
impossible on here now. I've done my final roll of the dice...

Subject: Re: Farewell
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badgolferman wrote on Mon, 2 Dec 2024 17:16:58 -0000 (UTC) :

> Announcing you are leaving a group is much like announcing you have
> killfiled someone. It's a weak attempt to exercise some power over
> others.

+1. Agree. It proves my point about the childish mind of Apple trolls.

In fact, I hadn't responded as was thinking something similar as you where
most of us have been on a variety of Usenet newsgroups for, oh, I don't
know, maybe two decades or so, right? If we left, nothing would change.

When you and I left the alt.home.repair newsgroup, did anyone even notice?

When Lewis left the Apple newsgroups, did any of you here even notice?
Did anyone here care when JF Mezei left the Apple newsgroups? Savageduck?

None of us is critical to the newsgroups, not even David Empson (who knew
more about Apple than all the rest of us did, combined) or Michelle Steiner
(who started the iPhone and/or iPad newsgroup(s), as far as I'm aware).

Besides, when Apple trolls like Alan Browne leave, a newsgroup IQ goes up.
Wasn't it much *better* for everyone when Rod Speed & Snit left these ngs?

I suspect Alan Browne is just going to change nyms (which I think nospam is
doing based on only one post though - but which was eerily his words).

Subject: Re: Farewell
From: *Hemidactylus*
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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote:
>
>>
>> I'll check in again ... June? TBD.
>>
>> Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!
>
> Announcing you are leaving a group is much like announcing you have
> killfiled someone. It's a weak attempt to exercise some power over
> others.
>
Pointing it out that way makes you much worse. I see Alan as performing a
cathartic mic drop. Who cares what you think of it you silly little person.

Subject: Re: Farewell
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On 12/2/2024 11:46 AM, Chris wrote:
> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Alan Browne wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'll check in again ... June? TBD.
>>>
>>> Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!
>>
>> Announcing you are leaving a group is much like announcing you have
>> killfiled someone. It's a weak attempt to exercise some power over
>> others.
>
> Not at all. It's simply a reflection of his exasperation and a potential
> signal for others to concur or not.
>
> I'm of a similar opinion to Alan. Reasonable discourse is functionally
> impossible on here now. I've done my final roll of the dice...

FWIW, blocking a single individual and any threads coming from that
person has made this group readable again for me. I just checked the
log from the filters and I can see this person is still causing the same
havoc since I filtered him. I just don't have to see it anymore. Much
better.

--
I Stand With Israel!

Subject: Re: Farewell
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On 12/2/2024 11:16 AM, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote:
>
>>
>> I'll check in again ... June? TBD.
>>
>> Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!
>
> Announcing you are leaving a group is much like announcing you have
> killfiled someone. It's a weak attempt to exercise some power over
> others.

Weak? It worked on you, that's for sure.

--
I Stand With Israel!

Subject: Re: Farewell
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*Hemidactylus* wrote:

>badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Alan Browne wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'll check in again ... June? TBD.
>>>
>>> Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!
>>
>> Announcing you are leaving a group is much like announcing you have
>> killfiled someone. It's a weak attempt to exercise some power over
>> others.
>>
>Pointing it out that way makes you much worse. I see Alan as
>performing a cathartic mic drop. Who cares what you think of it you
>silly little person.

You're right! It doesn't matter what I think of it. For that matter I
don't care that he left. What matters is his display of superiority.

"Elvis has left the building." "I have arrived at the party." "Look
at me now."

They're all the same. Ego driven forms of pride.

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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>
>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Alan Browne wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll check in again ... June? TBD.
>>>>
>>>> Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!
>>>
>>> Announcing you are leaving a group is much like announcing you have
>>> killfiled someone. It's a weak attempt to exercise some power over
>>> others.
>>>
>> Pointing it out that way makes you much worse. I see Alan as
>> performing a cathartic mic drop. Who cares what you think of it you
>> silly little person.
>
>
> You're right! It doesn't matter what I think of it. For that matter I
> don't care that he left. What matters is his display of superiority.
>
> "Elvis has left the building." "I have arrived at the party." "Look
> at me now."
>
> They're all the same. Ego driven forms of pride.
>
I think it something of a courtesy for him to announce to others that he is
leaving. People aren’t left wondering what happened as with nospam. It’s
dickish to frame it as you do.

Subject: Re: Farewell
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On 2024-12-02 11:16, badgolferman wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>
>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Alan Browne wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll check in again ... June? TBD.
>>>>
>>>> Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!
>>>
>>> Announcing you are leaving a group is much like announcing you have
>>> killfiled someone. It's a weak attempt to exercise some power over
>>> others.
>>>
>> Pointing it out that way makes you much worse. I see Alan as
>> performing a cathartic mic drop. Who cares what you think of it you
>> silly little person.
>
>
> You're right! It doesn't matter what I think of it. For that matter I
> don't care that he left. What matters is his display of superiority.
>
> "Elvis has left the building." "I have arrived at the party." "Look
> at me now."
>
> They're all the same. Ego driven forms of pride.

What Hemidactylus just said.

Subject: Re: Farewell
From: Jörg Lorenz
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On 02.12.24 18:16, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote:
>
>>
>> I'll check in again ... June? TBD.
>>
>> Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!
>
> Announcing you are leaving a group is much like announcing you have
> killfiled someone. It's a weak attempt to exercise some power over
> others.

Only idiots believe such crap.

--
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

Subject: Re: Farewell
From: badgolferman
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Jörg Lorenz wrote:

>On 02.12.24 18:16, badgolferman wrote:
>> Alan Browne wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'll check in again ... June? TBD.
>>>
>>> Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!
>>
>> Announcing you are leaving a group is much like announcing you have
>> killfiled someone. It's a weak attempt to exercise some power over
>> others.
>
>Only idiots believe such crap.

Your response proves my point exactly.

Why don't you instead try explaining how the announcement of your
departure or the announcement of killfiling is not a form of a power
play? You can't because you're the perfect example of such behavior.

Subject: Re: Farewell
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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>
>> On 02.12.24 18:16, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Alan Browne wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll check in again ... June? TBD.
>>>>
>>>> Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!
>>>
>>> Announcing you are leaving a group is much like announcing you have
>>> killfiled someone. It's a weak attempt to exercise some power over
>>> others.
>>
>> Only idiots believe such crap.
>
>
> Your response proves my point exactly.
>
> Why don't you instead try explaining how the announcement of your
> departure or the announcement of killfiling is not a form of a power
> play? You can't because you're the perfect example of such behavior.
>
Jörg is leaving too? I’m confused. I thought Alan Browne was extending the
common courtesy of letting us know he will not be posting again for a
while. I think it’s called closure.

But you could not be expected to understand courtesy nor closure. If you
did maybe you could have explained why they are less apt than your
malignant construal of Alan Browne’s departure. Posters like you make one
wonder why bother posting here at all as you embody the downfall of the
place as well as anyone.

Subject: Re: Farewell
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*Hemidactylus* wrote:

>Posters like you make one
>wonder why bother posting here at all as you embody the downfall of
>the place as well as anyone.

Really? I never knew you gave me so much power over you!

--
"Cunning and treachery shall overcome youth and skill."

Subject: Re: Farewell
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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>
>> Posters like you make one
>> wonder why bother posting here at all as you embody the downfall of
>> the place as well as anyone.
>
>
> Really? I never knew you gave me so much power over you!
>
You are but a mere indicator of the enshittification of usenet, as much as
Arlen and as much as the jackass who crossposts OT stuff about Gaza and
Israel into an iPhone group.

Subject: Re: Farewell
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*Hemidactylus* wrote:

>badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hemidactylus wrote:
>>
>>> Posters like you make one
>>> wonder why bother posting here at all as you embody the downfall
>>>of the place as well as anyone.
>>
>>
>> Really? I never knew you gave me so much power over you!
>>
>You are but a mere indicator of the enshittification of usenet, as
>much as Arlen and as much as the jackass who crossposts OT stuff
>about Gaza and Israel into an iPhone group.

Do you ever have anything to contribute to the group, or do you just
come here to criticize everyone else? It's people like you who have
increased the noise ratio and lowered the signal ratio just as much as
political crossposters.

Subject: Re: Farewell
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On 2024-12-03, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>
>>badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hemidactylus wrote:
>>>
>>>> Posters like you make one
>>>> wonder why bother posting here at all as you embody the downfall
>>>>of the place as well as anyone.
>>>
>>>
>>> Really? I never knew you gave me so much power over you!
>>>
>>You are but a mere indicator of the enshittification of usenet, as
>>much as Arlen and as much as the jackass who crossposts OT stuff
>>about Gaza and Israel into an iPhone group.
>
> Do you ever have anything to contribute to the group, or do you just
> come here to criticize

This from the asshole accusing someone of superiority for simply posting
that they are taking a break from Usenet... Irony is dead.

> It's people like you who have increased the noise ratio and lowered
> the signal ratio just as much as political crossposters.

Projection from a troll who offers nothing of substance to these
newsgroups.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

Subject: Re: Farewell
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On 2024-12-03 06:30, badgolferman wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>
>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hemidactylus wrote:
>>>
>>>> Posters like you make one
>>>> wonder why bother posting here at all as you embody the downfall
>>>> of the place as well as anyone.
>>>
>>>
>>> Really? I never knew you gave me so much power over you!
>>>
>> You are but a mere indicator of the enshittification of usenet, as
>> much as Arlen and as much as the jackass who crossposts OT stuff
>> about Gaza and Israel into an iPhone group.
>
> Do you ever have anything to contribute to the group, or do you just
> come here to criticize everyone else? It's people like you who have
> increased the noise ratio and lowered the signal ratio just as much as
> political crossposters.

You really are quite the dick, aren't you?

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On 3 Dec 2024 at 06:37:03 GMT, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

> On 02.12.24 18:16, badgolferman wrote:
>> Alan Browne wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'll check in again ... June? TBD.
>>>
>>> Be well, happy and safe going into the New Year, all!
>>
>> Announcing you are leaving a group is much like announcing you have
>> killfiled someone. It's a weak attempt to exercise some power over
>> others.
>
> Only idiots believe such crap.

Here begins the trolling.
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