On Sep 22, 2024 at 4:59:13 PM MST, "%" wrote
<PvidnfmNLovMMm37nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>:

> Snit wrote:
>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 3:38:09 PM MST, "%" wrote
>> <yxWdnSx4dJfPAW37nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:33:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>> <ijmdnSyh75S0EG37nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 12:19:55 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>> <IDCdnWCkCb9G8G37nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 9:10:55 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <llatsfF88daU2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 22/09/2024 16:30, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 12:33:30 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <ll9viaF3uakU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/08/2024 20:26, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 2:40:38 AM MST, "T i m" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <va4cmn$3qgnl$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/08/2024 08:42, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See: https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like your Mac is Intel based so doesn't have the required 'Apple
>>>>>>>>>>>>> silicon' or a T2 Security Chip needed for that feature to be available?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, T i m
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You are correct. The process is a bit more involved for Intel Macs... but I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have pointed him to the steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Where and when did you do that, please?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did it the day I said that... a few minutes before. I think this is the link
>>>>>>>>>> I shared:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102639
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's it! (I stumbled across it later!). Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My pleasure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Personally, I think using Option-Command-R or Shift-Option-Command-R to
>>>>>>>>> start up from *Recovery over the Internet* is a better approach.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that makes sense, and I have done that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (It raining here. :-( )
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For me that might be a good thing... but it does not rain often here. Hope you
>>>>>>>>>> have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's been good, thanks. My daughter and her family have been over to
>>>>>>>>> enjoy a Sunday roast with us here at home. This is the first occasion
>>>>>>>>> for more than a year because, as you know, we had flood/water damage to
>>>>>>>>> our house in August 2023. All went well! 🙂
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Excellent to hear. Truly. I have been doing a lot on my place as well...
>>>>>>>> really coming together.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> not me , i like the dirt floors and the car seat furniture
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like dirt furniture and car seat floors.
>>>>>>
>>>>> as long as i can plug in somewhere and post i'm good
>>>>
>>>> I don't need much. A vehicle that can reliably get me from A to B and carry
>>>> some stuff... a decent sized house where I can breathe.
>>>>
>>> wow , you want a lot
>>
>> A lot for the house is important. Sure.
>>
> you could be that seven guy he wanted the deadly sins too

Seven, huh? I’m not sure if I’m up for being a symbol of sin—I’m more of a
virtue kind of person. But hey, I’ll keep an eye out for any suspicious
‘what’s in the box’ situations!

--
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Snit wrote:
> On Sep 22, 2024 at 4:59:13 PM MST, "%" wrote
> <PvidnfmNLovMMm37nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 3:38:09 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>> <yxWdnSx4dJfPAW37nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:33:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>> <ijmdnSyh75S0EG37nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 12:19:55 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>>> <IDCdnWCkCb9G8G37nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 9:10:55 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <llatsfF88daU2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 22/09/2024 16:30, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 12:33:30 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <ll9viaF3uakU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/08/2024 20:26, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 2:40:38 AM MST, "T i m" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <va4cmn$3qgnl$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/08/2024 08:42, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See: https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like your Mac is Intel based so doesn't have the required 'Apple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> silicon' or a T2 Security Chip needed for that feature to be available?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, T i m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are correct. The process is a bit more involved for Intel Macs... but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have pointed him to the steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Where and when did you do that, please?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I did it the day I said that... a few minutes before. I think this is the link
>>>>>>>>>>> I shared:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102639
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's it! (I stumbled across it later!). Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My pleasure.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I think using Option-Command-R or Shift-Option-Command-R to
>>>>>>>>>> start up from *Recovery over the Internet* is a better approach.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think that makes sense, and I have done that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (It raining here. :-( )
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For me that might be a good thing... but it does not rain often here. Hope you
>>>>>>>>>>> have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's been good, thanks. My daughter and her family have been over to
>>>>>>>>>> enjoy a Sunday roast with us here at home. This is the first occasion
>>>>>>>>>> for more than a year because, as you know, we had flood/water damage to
>>>>>>>>>> our house in August 2023. All went well! 🙂
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Excellent to hear. Truly. I have been doing a lot on my place as well...
>>>>>>>>> really coming together.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> not me , i like the dirt floors and the car seat furniture
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like dirt furniture and car seat floors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> as long as i can plug in somewhere and post i'm good
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't need much. A vehicle that can reliably get me from A to B and carry
>>>>> some stuff... a decent sized house where I can breathe.
>>>>>
>>>> wow , you want a lot
>>>
>>> A lot for the house is important. Sure.
>>>
>> you could be that seven guy he wanted the deadly sins too
>
> Seven, huh? I’m not sure if I’m up for being a symbol of sin—I’m more of a
> virtue kind of person. But hey, I’ll keep an eye out for any suspicious
> ‘what’s in the box’ situations!
>
you wanna be the john wayne guy

On Sep 22, 2024 at 7:02:26 PM MST, "%" wrote
<xeidneUYgdGvUW37nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>:

> Snit wrote:
>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 4:59:13 PM MST, "%" wrote
>> <PvidnfmNLovMMm37nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 3:38:09 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>> <yxWdnSx4dJfPAW37nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:33:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>> <ijmdnSyh75S0EG37nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 12:19:55 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>>>> <IDCdnWCkCb9G8G37nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 9:10:55 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <llatsfF88daU2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/09/2024 16:30, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 12:33:30 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <ll9viaF3uakU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/08/2024 20:26, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 2:40:38 AM MST, "T i m" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <va4cmn$3qgnl$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/08/2024 08:42, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See: https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like your Mac is Intel based so doesn't have the required 'Apple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> silicon' or a T2 Security Chip needed for that feature to be available?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, T i m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are correct. The process is a bit more involved for Intel Macs... but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have pointed him to the steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where and when did you do that, please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did it the day I said that... a few minutes before. I think this is the link
>>>>>>>>>>>> I shared:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102639
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's it! (I stumbled across it later!). Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My pleasure.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I think using Option-Command-R or Shift-Option-Command-R to
>>>>>>>>>>> start up from *Recovery over the Internet* is a better approach.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think that makes sense, and I have done that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (It raining here. :-( )
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For me that might be a good thing... but it does not rain often here. Hope you
>>>>>>>>>>>> have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's been good, thanks. My daughter and her family have been over to
>>>>>>>>>>> enjoy a Sunday roast with us here at home. This is the first occasion
>>>>>>>>>>> for more than a year because, as you know, we had flood/water damage to
>>>>>>>>>>> our house in August 2023. All went well! 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Excellent to hear. Truly. I have been doing a lot on my place as well...
>>>>>>>>>> really coming together.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> not me , i like the dirt floors and the car seat furniture
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like dirt furniture and car seat floors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as long as i can plug in somewhere and post i'm good
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't need much. A vehicle that can reliably get me from A to B and carry
>>>>>> some stuff... a decent sized house where I can breathe.
>>>>>>
>>>>> wow , you want a lot
>>>>
>>>> A lot for the house is important. Sure.
>>>>
>>> you could be that seven guy he wanted the deadly sins too
>>
>> Seven, huh? I’m not sure if I’m up for being a symbol of sin—I’m more of a
>> virtue kind of person. But hey, I’ll keep an eye out for any suspicious
>> ‘what’s in the box’ situations!
>>
> you wanna be the john wayne guy

He was a wimp!

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Snit wrote:
> On Sep 22, 2024 at 7:02:26 PM MST, "%" wrote
> <xeidneUYgdGvUW37nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 4:59:13 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>> <PvidnfmNLovMMm37nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 3:38:09 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>> <yxWdnSx4dJfPAW37nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:33:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>>> <ijmdnSyh75S0EG37nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 12:19:55 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <IDCdnWCkCb9G8G37nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 9:10:55 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <llatsfF88daU2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/09/2024 16:30, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 12:33:30 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ll9viaF3uakU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/08/2024 20:26, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 2:40:38 AM MST, "T i m" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <va4cmn$3qgnl$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/08/2024 08:42, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See: https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like your Mac is Intel based so doesn't have the required 'Apple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> silicon' or a T2 Security Chip needed for that feature to be available?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, T i m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are correct. The process is a bit more involved for Intel Macs... but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have pointed him to the steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where and when did you do that, please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did it the day I said that... a few minutes before. I think this is the link
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I shared:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102639
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's it! (I stumbled across it later!). Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My pleasure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I think using Option-Command-R or Shift-Option-Command-R to
>>>>>>>>>>>> start up from *Recovery over the Internet* is a better approach.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think that makes sense, and I have done that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (It raining here. :-( )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For me that might be a good thing... but it does not rain often here. Hope you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been good, thanks. My daughter and her family have been over to
>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoy a Sunday roast with us here at home. This is the first occasion
>>>>>>>>>>>> for more than a year because, as you know, we had flood/water damage to
>>>>>>>>>>>> our house in August 2023. All went well! 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent to hear. Truly. I have been doing a lot on my place as well...
>>>>>>>>>>> really coming together.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> not me , i like the dirt floors and the car seat furniture
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I like dirt furniture and car seat floors.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as long as i can plug in somewhere and post i'm good
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't need much. A vehicle that can reliably get me from A to B and carry
>>>>>>> some stuff... a decent sized house where I can breathe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wow , you want a lot
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot for the house is important. Sure.
>>>>>
>>>> you could be that seven guy he wanted the deadly sins too
>>>
>>> Seven, huh? I’m not sure if I’m up for being a symbol of sin—I’m more of a
>>> virtue kind of person. But hey, I’ll keep an eye out for any suspicious
>>> ‘what’s in the box’ situations!
>>>
>> you wanna be the john wayne guy
>
> He was a wimp!
>
well who do you wanna be will greer

On Sep 22, 2024 at 8:01:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
<c2idnZH3AYWUR237nZ2dnZfqn_UAAAAA@giganews.com>:

> Snit wrote:
>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 7:02:26 PM MST, "%" wrote
>> <xeidneUYgdGvUW37nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 4:59:13 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>> <PvidnfmNLovMMm37nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 3:38:09 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>> <yxWdnSx4dJfPAW37nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:33:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>>>> <ijmdnSyh75S0EG37nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 12:19:55 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <IDCdnWCkCb9G8G37nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 9:10:55 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <llatsfF88daU2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/09/2024 16:30, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 12:33:30 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ll9viaF3uakU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/08/2024 20:26, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 2:40:38 AM MST, "T i m" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <va4cmn$3qgnl$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/08/2024 08:42, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See: https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like your Mac is Intel based so doesn't have the required 'Apple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> silicon' or a T2 Security Chip needed for that feature to be available?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, T i m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are correct. The process is a bit more involved for Intel Macs... but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have pointed him to the steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where and when did you do that, please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did it the day I said that... a few minutes before. I think this is the link
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I shared:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102639
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's it! (I stumbled across it later!). Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My pleasure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I think using Option-Command-R or Shift-Option-Command-R to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> start up from *Recovery over the Internet* is a better approach.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that makes sense, and I have done that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (It raining here. :-( )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For me that might be a good thing... but it does not rain often here. Hope you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been good, thanks. My daughter and her family have been over to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoy a Sunday roast with us here at home. This is the first occasion
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for more than a year because, as you know, we had flood/water damage to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our house in August 2023. All went well! 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent to hear. Truly. I have been doing a lot on my place as well...
>>>>>>>>>>>> really coming together.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> not me , i like the dirt floors and the car seat furniture
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I like dirt furniture and car seat floors.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> as long as i can plug in somewhere and post i'm good
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't need much. A vehicle that can reliably get me from A to B and carry
>>>>>>>> some stuff... a decent sized house where I can breathe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wow , you want a lot
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot for the house is important. Sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>> you could be that seven guy he wanted the deadly sins too
>>>>
>>>> Seven, huh? I’m not sure if I’m up for being a symbol of sin—I’m more of a
>>>> virtue kind of person. But hey, I’ll keep an eye out for any suspicious
>>>> ‘what’s in the box’ situations!
>>>>
>>> you wanna be the john wayne guy
>>
>> He was a wimp!
>>
> well who do you wanna be will greer

Will Not Greer.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Snit wrote:
> On Sep 22, 2024 at 8:01:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
> <c2idnZH3AYWUR237nZ2dnZfqn_UAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 7:02:26 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>> <xeidneUYgdGvUW37nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 4:59:13 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>> <PvidnfmNLovMMm37nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 3:38:09 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>>> <yxWdnSx4dJfPAW37nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:33:29 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <ijmdnSyh75S0EG37nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 12:19:55 PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <IDCdnWCkCb9G8G37nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 9:10:55 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <llatsfF88daU2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/09/2024 16:30, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 12:33:30 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ll9viaF3uakU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/08/2024 20:26, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 2:40:38 AM MST, "T i m" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <va4cmn$3qgnl$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/08/2024 08:42, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See: https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like your Mac is Intel based so doesn't have the required 'Apple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> silicon' or a T2 Security Chip needed for that feature to be available?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, T i m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are correct. The process is a bit more involved for Intel Macs... but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have pointed him to the steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where and when did you do that, please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did it the day I said that... a few minutes before. I think this is the link
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I shared:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102639
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's it! (I stumbled across it later!). Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My pleasure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I think using Option-Command-R or Shift-Option-Command-R to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start up from *Recovery over the Internet* is a better approach.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that makes sense, and I have done that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (It raining here. :-( )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For me that might be a good thing... but it does not rain often here. Hope you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been good, thanks. My daughter and her family have been over to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoy a Sunday roast with us here at home. This is the first occasion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for more than a year because, as you know, we had flood/water damage to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our house in August 2023. All went well! 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent to hear. Truly. I have been doing a lot on my place as well...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really coming together.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> not me , i like the dirt floors and the car seat furniture
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I like dirt furniture and car seat floors.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> as long as i can plug in somewhere and post i'm good
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't need much. A vehicle that can reliably get me from A to B and carry
>>>>>>>>> some stuff... a decent sized house where I can breathe.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wow , you want a lot
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A lot for the house is important. Sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> you could be that seven guy he wanted the deadly sins too
>>>>>
>>>>> Seven, huh? I’m not sure if I’m up for being a symbol of sin—I’m more of a
>>>>> virtue kind of person. But hey, I’ll keep an eye out for any suspicious
>>>>> ‘what’s in the box’ situations!
>>>>>
>>>> you wanna be the john wayne guy
>>>
>>> He was a wimp!
>>>
>> well who do you wanna be will greer
>
> Will Not Greer.
>
will rogers

On 23/08/2024 12:27, T i m wrote:
> On 23/08/2024 11:38, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 23/08/2024 09:53, T i m wrote:
>>> On 23/08/2024 09:32, David Brooks wrote:
>>>> On 23/08/2024 09:21, T i m wrote:
>>>>> On 22/08/2024 22:16, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 22:03, T i m wrote:
>>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 19:56, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts on this possible scenario?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I actually *know* the answer to this. They got you to
>>>>>>>>> download bad stuff in the hope it would take you offline,
>>>>>>>>> hopefully forever.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It didn't work so thy had to ban you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's what I would have done if I was a user / admin on that site.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are partly right. I gave the password to Snit so that HE
>>>>>>>> could use the Pro version of EtreCheck - which he did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Likely breaking the licence rules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Absolutely right!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shortly afterwards his Apple iMac ceased to function.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He stopped replying to you you mean, not necessarily the same thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WTF???  He's still posting here in the ACW group!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A coincidence I'm sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh yes, you must be right, shame it killed his Mac <wink>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The one he was going to fix with an engraving device!
>>>>>
>>>>> And you are talking of someone you consider 'a friend' here right'?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, of course! 🙂
>>>
>>> Bizarre.
>>>>
>>>> He wasn't being serious when he said that, numpty!
>>>
>>> You really don't get any of it do you?
>>>
>>> The whole engraver thing has been repeatedly used against Snit by the
>>> usual culprits and you think playing along with them against your
>>> 'friend' is good for your 'friend'?
>>>
>>> You really are either thick or don't care about anyone, including
>>> your friends?
>>
>> Do YOU see red?
>
> Am I colour blind? No.
>>
>> https://www.google.com/search?
>> client=safari&rls=en&q=etresoft&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
>
> Second hit on the link you sent:
>
> https://forums.developer.apple.com/forums/thread/687438
>
> People outing you for being you.
>>
>> I don't think Snit will! 🙂
>
> So, WTF has your reply go to do with anything I said?
>
> Are you in the state now where you carer has to make sure you have
> trousers on before you go out?

Haha! *NO* - but do you see red 'highlighting' here showing that
Etresoft is closed?
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=etresoft&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

I see the same in both Safari and Firefox.

Odd.

On 03/10/2024 15:54, David Brooks wrote:
> On 23/08/2024 12:27, T i m wrote:
[....]
>> Are you in the state now where you carer has to make sure you have
>> trousers on before you go out?
>
> Haha! *NO* - but do you see red 'highlighting' here showing that
> Etresoft is closed? https://www.google.com/search?
> client=safari&rls=en&q=etresoft&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
>
> I see the same in both Safari and Firefox.
>
> Odd.

I'd appreciate a reply.

--
David

On 29/10/2024 23:12, David Brooks wrote:
> On 03/10/2024 15:54, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 23/08/2024 12:27, T i m wrote:
> [....]
>>> Are you in the state now where you carer has to make sure you have
>>> trousers on before you go out?
>>
>> Haha! *NO* - but do you see red 'highlighting' here showing that
>> Etresoft is closed? https://www.google.com/search?
>> client=safari&rls=en&q=etresoft&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
>>
>> I see the same in both Safari and Firefox.
>>
>> Odd.
>
> I'd appreciate a reply.

Here's the link again:-

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=etresoft&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Sorry about that.

--
David

On 2024-10-29, David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 03/10/2024 15:54, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 23/08/2024 12:27, T i m wrote:
> [....]
>>> Are you in the state now where you carer has to make sure you have
>>> trousers on before you go out?
>>
>> Haha! *NO* - but do you see red 'highlighting' here showing that
>> Etresoft is closed? https://www.google.com/search?
>> client=safari&rls=en&q=etresoft&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
>>
>> I see the same in both Safari and Firefox.
>>
>> Odd.
>
> I'd appreciate a reply.

Get fucked, David. Nobody cares about your stalking activities.

--
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JR

On 31/10/2024 00:49, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2024-10-29, David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 03/10/2024 15:54, David Brooks wrote:
>>> On 23/08/2024 12:27, T i m wrote:
>> [....]
>>>> Are you in the state now where you carer has to make sure you have
>>>> trousers on before you go out?
>>>
>>> Haha! *NO* - but do you see red 'highlighting' here showing that
>>> Etresoft is closed? https://www.google.com/search?
>>> client=safari&rls=en&q=etresoft&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
>>>
>>> I see the same in both Safari and Firefox.
>>>
>>> Odd.
>>
>> I'd appreciate a reply.
>
> Get fucked, David. Nobody cares about your stalking activities.

Ah! So YOU support the use of the non-Apple approved software called
EtreCheck?

Is that right?

On 31/10/2024 07:30, David Brooks wrote:
> On 31/10/2024 00:49, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2024-10-29, David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On 03/10/2024 15:54, David Brooks wrote:
>>>> On 23/08/2024 12:27, T i m wrote:
>>> [....]
>>>>> Are you in the state now where you carer has to make sure you have
>>>>> trousers on before you go out?
>>>>
>>>> Haha! *NO* - but do you see red 'highlighting' here showing that
>>>> Etresoft is closed? https://www.google.com/search?
>>>> client=safari&rls=en&q=etresoft&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
>>>>
>>>> I see the same in both Safari and Firefox.
>>>>
>>>> Odd.
>>>
>>> I'd appreciate a reply.
>>
>> Get fucked, David. Nobody cares about your stalking activities.
>
> Ah! So YOU support the use of the non-Apple approved software called
> EtreCheck?
>
> Is that right?

No, it's not, they are right, we really don't care about your one man
(?) crusade into harassing innocent people.

Hardly very 'Christian' is it?

If there was anything that would actually get you sectioned it's this.

Leave it and find something more wholesome to do, unless you really
think that you are the only one to see though to these people as being
real bad guys? (Think on your actual computer skills before answering).

Cheers, T i m

On 31/10/2024 09:57, T i m wrote:
> On 31/10/2024 07:30, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 31/10/2024 00:49, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-29, David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> On 03/10/2024 15:54, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>> On 23/08/2024 12:27, T i m wrote:
>>>> [....]
>>>>>> Are you in the state now where you carer has to make sure you have
>>>>>> trousers on before you go out?
>>>>>
>>>>> Haha! *NO* - but do you see red 'highlighting' here showing that
>>>>> Etresoft is closed? https://www.google.com/search?
>>>>> client=safari&rls=en&q=etresoft&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
>>>>>
>>>>> I see the same in both Safari and Firefox.
>>>>>
>>>>> Odd.
>>>>
>>>> I'd appreciate a reply.
>>>
>>> Get fucked, David. Nobody cares about your stalking activities.
>>
>> Ah! So YOU support the use of the non-Apple approved software called
>> EtreCheck?
>>
>> Is that right?
>
> No, it's not, they are right, we really don't care about your one man
> (?) crusade into harassing innocent people.
>
> Hardly very 'Christian' is it?

What makes YOU think that "John Daniel" is "innocent"?

> If there was anything that would actually get you sectioned it's this.
>
> Leave it and find something more wholesome to do, unless you really
> think that you are the only one to see though to these people as being
> real bad guys? (Think on your actual computer skills before answering).

I have found no-one yet who has reverse-engineered EtreCheck.

Folk have *NO CLUE* as to what they are loading onto their computer when
they use it.

BDB wrote:
> I have found no-one yet who has reverse-engineered EtreCheck.
>
This combination of statements leads me to believe that BDB doesn't have
a good grasp of what 'reverse-engineered' means in the context of software.

> Folk have *NO CLUE* as to what they are loading onto their computer
> when they use it.

This part implies that what BDB thinks he is talking about is something
along the lines of 'knows *exactly* what E'Chk is doing to do what it
'does'.

But that isn't what reverse engineering would mean for s/w. If one were
going to 'reverse engineer' E'Chk, they would create a software which
performs the same duties as E'Chk w/o having any access to E'Chk's
source code.

This 'type of' mistaken thinking is because BDB has a theory that E'Chk
is 'nefarious'. What would be helpful to dispel that theory would be if
BDB or someone who is actually capable of reading the source code had
access to that.

JD implies that he would make such source code available to someone, but
not just with the conventional license he provides.

> This License does not grant you the right to access to the source
> code of the Software. If, in certain circumstances, such access is
> desired by you, you may enter into a separate license with Etresoft.

The wp article on reverse engineering has an extensive section on what
the term means in the case of software and distinctly addresses the
issue of source code as part of the discussion.

If BDB weren't so daft in the head about how he 'interprets' JD and his
software that causes him to simply 'make things up' to misrepresent
anything he encounters in that sphere so as to appear delusional he
might be able to 'see things' like a normal person, instead of whatever
he is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#Software

--
Mike Easter

On 31/10/2024 22:38, Mike Easter wrote:
> If BDB weren't so daft in the head about how he 'interprets' JD and his
> software that causes him to simply 'make things up' to misrepresent
> anything he encounters in that sphere so as to appear delusional he
> might be able to 'see things' like a normal person, instead of whatever
> he is.

You are VERY rude, Mr Easter! :-P

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#Software

Do, please, read the long post by "etresoft" here ....

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7474731?sortBy=rank

Then ask him, *NOW*, for his "source code"!

I'll wager he will not provide it!

HTH

--
David

On Oct 31, 2024 at 5:20:04 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<loil5kF3nseU3@mid.individual.net>:

> On 31/10/2024 22:38, Mike Easter wrote:
>> If BDB weren't so daft in the head about how he 'interprets' JD and his
>> software that causes him to simply 'make things up' to misrepresent
>> anything he encounters in that sphere so as to appear delusional he
>> might be able to 'see things' like a normal person, instead of whatever
>> he is.
>
> You are VERY rude, Mr Easter! :-P
>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#Software
>
> Do, please, read the long post by "etresoft" here ....
>
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7474731?sortBy=rank
>
> Then ask him, *NOW*, for his "source code"!

What makes you think his code is open source?

Asking ChatGPT I get this:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, EtreCheck is not open-source software. It’s a proprietary diagnostic tool
for macOS, created by Etresoft, Inc., primarily designed to help users
identify and troubleshoot performance issues on their Mac systems. While it
provides transparency in system diagnostics and has a free version with
limited features, the source code isn’t publicly available.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I'll wager he will not provide it!

Given that it is no open source it would be weird if he opened the source.
>
> HTH

--
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 31/10/2024 22:38, Mike Easter wrote:
>> If BDB weren't so daft in the head about how he 'interprets' JD and his
>> software that causes him to simply 'make things up' to misrepresent
>> anything he encounters in that sphere so as to appear delusional he
>> might be able to 'see things' like a normal person, instead of whatever
>> he is.
>
> You are VERY rude, Mr Easter! :-P
>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#Software
>
> Do, please, read the long post by "etresoft" here ....
>
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7474731?sortBy=rank
>
> Then ask him, *NOW*, for his "source code"!
>
> I'll wager he will not provide it!

Of course not. It's his business asset to do as he wishes.

On 01/11/2024 03:24, Snit wrote:
> On Oct 31, 2024 at 5:20:04 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <loil5kF3nseU3@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 31/10/2024 22:38, Mike Easter wrote:
>>> If BDB weren't so daft in the head about how he 'interprets' JD and his
>>> software that causes him to simply 'make things up' to misrepresent
>>> anything he encounters in that sphere so as to appear delusional he
>>> might be able to 'see things' like a normal person, instead of whatever
>>> he is.
>>
>> You are VERY rude, Mr Easter! :-P
>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#Software
>>
>> Do, please, read the long post by "etresoft" here ....
>>
>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7474731?sortBy=rank
>>
>> Then ask him, *NOW*, for his "source code"!
>
> What makes you think his code is open source?
>
> Asking ChatGPT I get this:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> No, EtreCheck is not open-source software. It’s a proprietary diagnostic tool
> for macOS, created by Etresoft, Inc., primarily designed to help users
> identify and troubleshoot performance issues on their Mac systems. While it
> provides transparency in system diagnostics and has a free version with
> limited features, the source code isn’t publicly available.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I'll wager he will not provide it!
>
> Given that it is no open source it would be weird if he opened the source.

From the link I provided, which you obviously did not read, "etresoft"
said ....

///Your claim that EtreCheck "does not offer the source code to look at"
is false. Here is its Github project: GitHub - etresoft/EtreCheck:
Source code for EtreCheck. The source includes an Xcode project file
that can be used to compile EtreCheck on any recent Mac with Xcode.//

Until someone can explain how the developer of EtreCheck, "John Daniel",
makes a living, I will forever be suspicious of his apparently SOLE item
of software.

--
David

On 01/11/2024 07:45, Chris wrote:
> David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 31/10/2024 22:38, Mike Easter wrote:
>>> If BDB weren't so daft in the head about how he 'interprets' JD and his
>>> software that causes him to simply 'make things up' to misrepresent
>>> anything he encounters in that sphere so as to appear delusional he
>>> might be able to 'see things' like a normal person, instead of whatever
>>> he is.
>>
>> You are VERY rude, Mr Easter! :-P
>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#Software
>>
>> Do, please, read the long post by "etresoft" here ....
>>
>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7474731?sortBy=rank
>>
>> Then ask him, *NOW*, for his "source code"!
>>
>> I'll wager he will not provide it!
>
> Of course not. It's his business asset to do as he wishes.

Do YOU do this, Chris?

https://robinhorsfall.substack.com/p/the-old-man

My son does.

--
David

On 2024-11-01, David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 01/11/2024 03:24, Snit wrote:
>> On Oct 31, 2024 at 5:20:04 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <loil5kF3nseU3@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 31/10/2024 22:38, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>> If BDB weren't so daft in the head about how he 'interprets' JD and his
>>>> software that causes him to simply 'make things up' to misrepresent
>>>> anything he encounters in that sphere so as to appear delusional he
>>>> might be able to 'see things' like a normal person, instead of whatever
>>>> he is.
>>>
>>> You are VERY rude, Mr Easter! :-P
>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#Software
>>>
>>> Do, please, read the long post by "etresoft" here ....
>>>
>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7474731?sortBy=rank
>>>
>>> Then ask him, *NOW*, for his "source code"!
>>
>> What makes you think his code is open source?
>>
>> Asking ChatGPT I get this:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> No, EtreCheck is not open-source software. It’s a proprietary diagnostic tool
>> for macOS, created by Etresoft, Inc., primarily designed to help users
>> identify and troubleshoot performance issues on their Mac systems. While it
>> provides transparency in system diagnostics and has a free version with
>> limited features, the source code isn’t publicly available.
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> I'll wager he will not provide it!
>>
>> Given that it is no open source it would be weird if he opened the source.
>
> From the link I provided, which you obviously did not read, "etresoft"
> said ....
>
> ///Your claim that EtreCheck "does not offer the source code to look at"
> is false. Here is its Github project: GitHub - etresoft/EtreCheck:
> Source code for EtreCheck. The source includes an Xcode project file
> that can be used to compile EtreCheck on any recent Mac with Xcode.//
>
> Until someone can explain how the developer of EtreCheck, "John Daniel",
> makes a living, I will forever be suspicious of his apparently SOLE item
> of software.

EtreCheck has been around for a long time and seems to have decent
reviews and user feedback so if it was doing something nefarious don't you
think that it would have been uncovered by some technically inclined person
by now?

--
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See Kamala Harris best interview ever.
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6363352689112
She really knocks this one out of the park.
Don't you agree?

On Nov 1, 2024 at 12:53:28 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lojfnoF7n0iU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 01/11/2024 03:24, Snit wrote:
>> On Oct 31, 2024 at 5:20:04 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <loil5kF3nseU3@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 31/10/2024 22:38, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>> If BDB weren't so daft in the head about how he 'interprets' JD and his
>>>> software that causes him to simply 'make things up' to misrepresent
>>>> anything he encounters in that sphere so as to appear delusional he
>>>> might be able to 'see things' like a normal person, instead of whatever
>>>> he is.
>>>
>>> You are VERY rude, Mr Easter! :-P
>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#Software
>>>
>>> Do, please, read the long post by "etresoft" here ....
>>>
>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7474731?sortBy=rank
>>>
>>> Then ask him, *NOW*, for his "source code"!
>>
>> What makes you think his code is open source?
>>
>> Asking ChatGPT I get this:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> No, EtreCheck is not open-source software. It’s a proprietary diagnostic tool
>> for macOS, created by Etresoft, Inc., primarily designed to help users
>> identify and troubleshoot performance issues on their Mac systems. While it
>> provides transparency in system diagnostics and has a free version with
>> limited features, the source code isn’t publicly available.
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> I'll wager he will not provide it!
>>
>> Given that it is no open source it would be weird if he opened the source.
>
> From the link I provided, which you obviously did not read, "etresoft"
> said ....
>
> ///Your claim that EtreCheck "does not offer the source code to look at"
> is false. Here is its Github project: GitHub - etresoft/EtreCheck:
> Source code for EtreCheck. The source includes an Xcode project file
> that can be used to compile EtreCheck on any recent Mac with Xcode.//
>
> Until someone can explain how the developer of EtreCheck, "John Daniel",
> makes a living, I will forever be suspicious of his apparently SOLE item
> of software.

Does look like he has an error there. Fair enough. What makes you think you
have a right to know ANYTHING about his personal or financial life?

--
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 01/11/2024 12:40, pothead wrote:
> On 2024-11-01, David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 01/11/2024 03:24, Snit wrote:
>>> On Oct 31, 2024 at 5:20:04 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <loil5kF3nseU3@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 31/10/2024 22:38, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>> If BDB weren't so daft in the head about how he 'interprets' JD and his
>>>>> software that causes him to simply 'make things up' to misrepresent
>>>>> anything he encounters in that sphere so as to appear delusional he
>>>>> might be able to 'see things' like a normal person, instead of whatever
>>>>> he is.
>>>>
>>>> You are VERY rude, Mr Easter! :-P
>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#Software
>>>>
>>>> Do, please, read the long post by "etresoft" here ....
>>>>
>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7474731?sortBy=rank
>>>>
>>>> Then ask him, *NOW*, for his "source code"!
>>>
>>> What makes you think his code is open source?
>>>
>>> Asking ChatGPT I get this:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> No, EtreCheck is not open-source software. It’s a proprietary diagnostic tool
>>> for macOS, created by Etresoft, Inc., primarily designed to help users
>>> identify and troubleshoot performance issues on their Mac systems. While it
>>> provides transparency in system diagnostics and has a free version with
>>> limited features, the source code isn’t publicly available.
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> I'll wager he will not provide it!
>>>
>>> Given that it is no open source it would be weird if he opened the source.
>>
>> From the link I provided, which you obviously did not read, "etresoft"
>> said ....
>>
>> ///Your claim that EtreCheck "does not offer the source code to look at"
>> is false. Here is its Github project: GitHub - etresoft/EtreCheck:
>> Source code for EtreCheck. The source includes an Xcode project file
>> that can be used to compile EtreCheck on any recent Mac with Xcode.//
>>
>> Until someone can explain how the developer of EtreCheck, "John Daniel",
>> makes a living, I will forever be suspicious of his apparently SOLE item
>> of software.
>
> EtreCheck has been around for a long time and seems to have decent
> reviews and user feedback so if it was doing something nefarious don't you
> think that it would have been uncovered by some technically inclined person
> by now?

I understand what you say, 'pothead', but I've never found any review
from anyone who has reverse engineered the product to actually check.

At this URL, it says that Alan Baker is from Vancouver -
https://forums.developer.apple.com/forums/profile/alangbaker

I wonder how HE knows ME!

Any thoughts on this?

--
David

On 2024-11-01, David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 01/11/2024 12:40, pothead wrote:
>> On 2024-11-01, David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On 01/11/2024 03:24, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Oct 31, 2024 at 5:20:04 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <loil5kF3nseU3@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 31/10/2024 22:38, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>> If BDB weren't so daft in the head about how he 'interprets' JD and his
>>>>>> software that causes him to simply 'make things up' to misrepresent
>>>>>> anything he encounters in that sphere so as to appear delusional he
>>>>>> might be able to 'see things' like a normal person, instead of whatever
>>>>>> he is.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are VERY rude, Mr Easter! :-P
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#Software
>>>>>
>>>>> Do, please, read the long post by "etresoft" here ....
>>>>>
>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7474731?sortBy=rank
>>>>>
>>>>> Then ask him, *NOW*, for his "source code"!
>>>>
>>>> What makes you think his code is open source?
>>>>
>>>> Asking ChatGPT I get this:
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> No, EtreCheck is not open-source software. It’s a proprietary diagnostic tool
>>>> for macOS, created by Etresoft, Inc., primarily designed to help users
>>>> identify and troubleshoot performance issues on their Mac systems. While it
>>>> provides transparency in system diagnostics and has a free version with
>>>> limited features, the source code isn’t publicly available.
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll wager he will not provide it!
>>>>
>>>> Given that it is no open source it would be weird if he opened the source.
>>>
>>> From the link I provided, which you obviously did not read, "etresoft"
>>> said ....
>>>
>>> ///Your claim that EtreCheck "does not offer the source code to look at"
>>> is false. Here is its Github project: GitHub - etresoft/EtreCheck:
>>> Source code for EtreCheck. The source includes an Xcode project file
>>> that can be used to compile EtreCheck on any recent Mac with Xcode.//
>>>
>>> Until someone can explain how the developer of EtreCheck, "John Daniel",
>>> makes a living, I will forever be suspicious of his apparently SOLE item
>>> of software.
>>
>> EtreCheck has been around for a long time and seems to have decent
>> reviews and user feedback so if it was doing something nefarious don't you
>> think that it would have been uncovered by some technically inclined person
>> by now?
>
> I understand what you say, 'pothead', but I've never found any review
> from anyone who has reverse engineered the product to actually check.

That's my point.
If something was found, I'm sure it would be all over the net.

> At this URL, it says that Alan Baker is from Vancouver -
> https://forums.developer.apple.com/forums/profile/alangbaker
>
> I wonder how HE knows ME!
>
> Any thoughts on this?

I have no idea who he is.

--
pothead

See Kamala Harris best interview ever.
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6363352689112
She really knocks this one out of the park.
Don't you agree?

On 01/11/2024 14:30, pothead wrote:
> On 2024-11-01, David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 01/11/2024 12:40, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-01, David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> On 01/11/2024 03:24, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 31, 2024 at 5:20:04 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <loil5kF3nseU3@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31/10/2024 22:38, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>>> If BDB weren't so daft in the head about how he 'interprets' JD and his
>>>>>>> software that causes him to simply 'make things up' to misrepresent
>>>>>>> anything he encounters in that sphere so as to appear delusional he
>>>>>>> might be able to 'see things' like a normal person, instead of whatever
>>>>>>> he is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are VERY rude, Mr Easter! :-P
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#Software
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do, please, read the long post by "etresoft" here ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7474731?sortBy=rank
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then ask him, *NOW*, for his "source code"!
>>>>>
>>>>> What makes you think his code is open source?
>>>>>
>>>>> Asking ChatGPT I get this:
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> No, EtreCheck is not open-source software. It’s a proprietary diagnostic tool
>>>>> for macOS, created by Etresoft, Inc., primarily designed to help users
>>>>> identify and troubleshoot performance issues on their Mac systems. While it
>>>>> provides transparency in system diagnostics and has a free version with
>>>>> limited features, the source code isn’t publicly available.
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll wager he will not provide it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Given that it is no open source it would be weird if he opened the source.
>>>>
>>>> From the link I provided, which you obviously did not read, "etresoft"
>>>> said ....
>>>>
>>>> ///Your claim that EtreCheck "does not offer the source code to look at"
>>>> is false. Here is its Github project: GitHub - etresoft/EtreCheck:
>>>> Source code for EtreCheck. The source includes an Xcode project file
>>>> that can be used to compile EtreCheck on any recent Mac with Xcode.//
>>>>
>>>> Until someone can explain how the developer of EtreCheck, "John Daniel",
>>>> makes a living, I will forever be suspicious of his apparently SOLE item
>>>> of software.
>>>
>>> EtreCheck has been around for a long time and seems to have decent
>>> reviews and user feedback so if it was doing something nefarious don't you
>>> think that it would have been uncovered by some technically inclined person
>>> by now?
>>
>> I understand what you say, 'pothead', but I've never found any review
>> from anyone who has reverse engineered the product to actually check.
>
> That's my point.
> If something was found, I'm sure it would be all over the net.

Well, if and when somebody DOES find something I'm sure it *WILL* be
"all over the net" too!

>> At this URL, it says that Alan Baker is from Vancouver -
>> https://forums.developer.apple.com/forums/profile/alangbaker
>>
>> I wonder how HE knows ME!
>>
>> Any thoughts on this?
>
> I have no idea who he is.

Me neither - but obviously a stalker who popped-up here:-
https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/757636

What do you make of that whole thread?

--
David
>

On 2024-11-01, David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 01/11/2024 14:30, pothead wrote:
>> On 2024-11-01, David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On 01/11/2024 12:40, pothead wrote:
>>>> On 2024-11-01, David Brooks <David@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 01/11/2024 03:24, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Oct 31, 2024 at 5:20:04 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <loil5kF3nseU3@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 31/10/2024 22:38, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>>>> If BDB weren't so daft in the head about how he 'interprets' JD and his
>>>>>>>> software that causes him to simply 'make things up' to misrepresent
>>>>>>>> anything he encounters in that sphere so as to appear delusional he
>>>>>>>> might be able to 'see things' like a normal person, instead of whatever
>>>>>>>> he is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are VERY rude, Mr Easter! :-P
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering#Software
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do, please, read the long post by "etresoft" here ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7474731?sortBy=rank
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then ask him, *NOW*, for his "source code"!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What makes you think his code is open source?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Asking ChatGPT I get this:
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> No, EtreCheck is not open-source software. It’s a proprietary diagnostic tool
>>>>>> for macOS, created by Etresoft, Inc., primarily designed to help users
>>>>>> identify and troubleshoot performance issues on their Mac systems. While it
>>>>>> provides transparency in system diagnostics and has a free version with
>>>>>> limited features, the source code isn’t publicly available.
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll wager he will not provide it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given that it is no open source it would be weird if he opened the source.
>>>>>
>>>>> From the link I provided, which you obviously did not read, "etresoft"
>>>>> said ....
>>>>>
>>>>> ///Your claim that EtreCheck "does not offer the source code to look at"
>>>>> is false. Here is its Github project: GitHub - etresoft/EtreCheck:
>>>>> Source code for EtreCheck. The source includes an Xcode project file
>>>>> that can be used to compile EtreCheck on any recent Mac with Xcode.//
>>>>>
>>>>> Until someone can explain how the developer of EtreCheck, "John Daniel",
>>>>> makes a living, I will forever be suspicious of his apparently SOLE item
>>>>> of software.
>>>>
>>>> EtreCheck has been around for a long time and seems to have decent
>>>> reviews and user feedback so if it was doing something nefarious don't you
>>>> think that it would have been uncovered by some technically inclined person
>>>> by now?
>>>
>>> I understand what you say, 'pothead', but I've never found any review
>>> from anyone who has reverse engineered the product to actually check.
>>
>> That's my point.
>> If something was found, I'm sure it would be all over the net.
>
> Well, if and when somebody DOES find something I'm sure it *WILL* be
> "all over the net" too!
>
>>> At this URL, it says that Alan Baker is from Vancouver -
>>> https://forums.developer.apple.com/forums/profile/alangbaker
>>>
>>> I wonder how HE knows ME!
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>
>> I have no idea who he is.
>
> Me neither - but obviously a stalker who popped-up here:-
> https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/757636
>
> What do you make of that whole thread?
>
From what I see, they have you labeled as a troll.
Also that forum looks like a developer forum so it wouldn't be the correct
place to address your topic. That is how it works in the Linux world so
I assume it's the same for Mac.
Maybe I'm wrong?

--
pothead

See Kamala Harris best interview ever.
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6363352689112
She really knocks this one out of the park.
Don't you agree?